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CTD when entering Dragonsreach Skyrim SE


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I don't know what mod is causing this but I simply cannot enter the dragonsreach interior. Not through the front door or through the dungeon. I've already gone through SSEEdit and the only mods affecting the cell are Dawnguard, USSEP, Legacy of the Dragonborn, Alt Start, Netrual Civil War, and Open Cities, but none of the mods appear to be conflicting eachother.

This is my load order if anyone sees a problem in that mess:

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl
ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl
RSkyrimChildren.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
Campfire.esm
CBBE.esl
SkyUI_SE.esp
DBM_RSChildren.esp
iNeed.esp
iNeed - Extended.esp
JKs Skyrim.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
OCW_Obscure's_CollegeofWinterhold.esp
Artificer - Artifacts of Skyrim.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
CosmeticVampireOverhaul.esp
CVO ElderBlood.esp
Serana.esp
Valerica.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
OpulentThievesGuild.esp
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp
BCS_TCIY_Patch.esp
Wild World.esp
DBM_WildWorld_Patch.esp
50 More Perk Points.esp
AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
SkyHUD.esp
Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp
Vivid WeathersSE.esp
VividWaterFix.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
honedmetal.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
NB-Scars.esp
RaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Realistic AI Detection 2 SE Lite.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp
Immersive Movement.esp
Immersive Movement - Wildcat Patch.esp
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
P1FlyingRing.esp
OCW_Obscure's_FacesofWinterhold_FEPatch.esp
EEO Imperious patch.esp
OCW_Bijin-WM_FEPatch.esp
Cooking_In_Skyrim.esp
Frostfall.esp
DBM_IW_Patch.esp
WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp
DBM_IA_Patch.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp
DBM_Artificer_Patch.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
CollegeStudents.esp
OCW_ICNs_FEPatch.esp
ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp
DBM_iNeed_Patch.esp
DBM_ArtifactsOfBoethiah_Patch.esp
icebladeofthemonarch.esp
DBM_IceBladeMonarch_Patch.esp
DBM_Apophysis_Patch.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
EEO OpulentThievesGuild patch.esp
FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp
Frostfall Vampire Fix.esp
JKs Skyrim_Thunderchild_Patch.esp
OCW_iN_FEPatch.esp
Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
Predator Vision.esp
Qw_ACE_CRF Patch.esp
RSChildren.esp
Qw_WACCF_RSChildren Patch.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
Animated Dragon WingsSE.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
cheat room.esp
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
Apocalypse - Waterstride Spell Addon.esp
Apophysis_DPM_SE.esp
Ars Metallica.esp
DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp
Artificer - Unique Uniques Patch.esp
Beards.esp
Bloodskal200.esp
ClassicClasses.esp
CCB_AndromedaPatch.esp
CWneutral.esp
CosmeticVampireOverhaul - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
EEO CRF patch.esp
FNIS.esp
FNISspells.esp
More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Flying Mod Addon.esp
More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp
Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp
Open Cities Skyrim.esp
JKs Skyrim_Open Cities_Patch.esp
DBM_OpenCities_Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Needs Mod Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
RWT Lod Fix.esp
WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp
Please help if anyone can. I just want to enter dragonsreach and kill the jarl. Is that too much for a sociopathic dragonborn to ask?
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Hi,

 

This does not seem to be Vortex related at all.

This seems to be a more suitable place for your question: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/forum/4060-skyrim-special-edition-mod-troubleshooting/

 

CTDs can be caused by all kinds of (often unexpected) issues. For instance, I once suffered CTDs when leaving any interior in Whiterun, and it turned out to be a broken scimitar mesh replacer (the game had already preloaded the Alik'r warriors for that Saadia quest).

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@ OP .... what BigBizkit said is very true, anything can trigger a CTD and I find very pointless when users post their load order because for somebody to help you find out what mod is the culprit, that person would have to install all of your mods in their own PC, play with them and try to find the root of the problem, and I do not think that anyone will do that for you or anybody else.

 

I do not agree when people start advising about moving this mod here or there, or deleting this one or other. Right now I could tell you, delete this mod or do this or that and it will not be of any help to you at all because I do not know, from my chair, how those mods are interacting / conflicting to each other and the only person who can discover that is you by using Xedit which should be your best counselor.

 

Unfortunately, neither me nor everybody can do that for you, even though we would like to help you, it is simply impossible. The best thing to do when modding a game, is to install 2-3 mods, try them out for 15-20 minutes and if they do not break your game, continue installing another 3 and repeat the same sequence till you find the one is causing the issue. I did it and I found out that More Bandit Camps was the culprit, but it took me a while to find out and I had to reinstall the whole thing again. It is tedious, but absolutely essential if you want to have a more stable game. It would never be perfect and you probably will experience some CTD's once in a while, but not that often. Perfect game does not exist !!!

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Speaking strictly to your load order - when talking about mods, more is not better.

Knock yourself out with texture mods. They are usually fine.

Script mods, that add Quests or change things, will kill your game if they overload the engine.

Use only a few of those per profile. Dedicate a profile to each "Theme" you want to try.

For one thing, you will have less mods to debug when it crashes.

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