Since 76 was originally F4 Multiplayer...

[BlazeStryker]

Bethesda Support Leaks Fallout 76 Customer Names, Addresses, Phone Numbers, Payment Info, & Receipts

 

....yeah. Yong Yea reports how people providing tickets to get the damn canvas bags they should have gotten in the first place got their tickets and information made publically visible for several hours.

 

If you feel this is important (and related enough to F4, see the title of this discussion), go hit up YouTube and copy/paste the big font words in the searchbox.

 

You'll find it.

[zanity]

???- few here will need a person's fav Youtube click-baiter to keep them in the loop. Anyone who cares will surely seek to get their news first-hand, just as peeps like Yongyea do before they regurgitate it for all their 'followers'.

 

Anyhoo Beth is a ship sinking and on fire from stem to stern. So much so that watchers have pretty much given up reporting when a new fire joins the thousands already started by Todd the Arsonist. Talking about coming games from far better devs that will replace Fallout and Elder Scrolls (like The Outer Worlds) is the new trend.

 

Today if a person is still loyal to and optimistic about Bethesda after all that has happened, no new FACT is going to change their mind. Todd could visit their home in person and kill their pet before their own eyes, and that person would still scream that Starfield is almost here and will be the "best game EVAR11!11!1!11".

 

Cult psychology is a VERY scary thing.

[BlazeStryker]

Christ it's like trying to disagree with a political "base".

 

(Incidentally, if you identify with any political base, I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but they refer to you that way as the lowest common denominator, not as the support.)

 

No, it really is! Over in the Technical support forum, I've been seeing people howling over the fact that the latest update no longer allows one to load a save. At all. And every step that is suggested or attempted, the next "advice" blames as if shutting the henhouse was what called the fox into it in the first place.

Edited December 9, 2018 by BlazeStryker

[MarkusTay]

I somehow got the 'update' (re: their force-fed CC garbage) a few days earlier than most, and had the problem earlier than most... AND RESOLVED THE PROBLEM earlier than most. I rolled back my .exe. and played fine for two days.

 

i don't know what happened, but my game broke anyway, after two days of having fun. I can't play for more than a minute or two without it crashing. It could be that they have inserted some sort of code that is periodically checking to see if you updated to their paid-schlok content and knocking you off if you didn't, but more likely, the game still updated because even if you play by going through F4SE, it back-doors Steam (which is another thing I have a HUGE problem with) and I guess you will still get some sort of update (my .exe remained the old one I had reinstalled, so I am SURE it wasn't the game files itself, which smells of something a bit more nefarious). More likely most folks games are CTD'ing because of the update itself conflicting with their mods, and its nothing sinister.

 

In my case though, I clearly did not have the main-file update (as I said, I made sure I had the old .exe. still in-place), and I was still getting the crashes, AT REGULAR INTERVALS. I kept checking (and quicksaving constantly) the same save, and it didn't matter what I did, at the same exact time I would get the crash. Now, I know that despite using the executable for the game I was still seeing the advertisement in the upper right corner of my load screen for the 'new content' (some sort of 'alien' trash), so my thoughts here are the Steam server is 'pinging' the game somehow and checking to see if you have the latest version - I crash every 150 seconds or so.

 

So even running the old version didn't help me in the end. Some folks here told me we should all 'just play offline', but I am not sure how to do that. A least not easily. I play other games on Steam, and AFAIK just logging onto Steam will turn it back on, no? Because it seems that now, even if you refuse an update, they'll 'get you' somehow. I HATE Steam far more than I hate Beth - I am a single-player gamer, and I don't understand why those types of games went on Steam in the first place. Forcing people to play NON-online games... ONLINE.

 

Back in the day, we'd hear about an expansion pack, go to the company's website, and (buy &) download the thing if we wanted it. That was it. End of story. if something needed patching (and back then, there wasn't really all that much of that... funny how that works, eh? Steam ALLOWED companies like Beth to release unfinished garbage) we'd find out about it and download the patch. And as far as console games go, they never needed patching (because they HAD TO BE FINISHED and bug-free BEFORE release). I feel like Steam (and the internet in-general) has just allowed game companies to become extremely sloppy. This "we'll just finish it later" attitude is destroying the gaming industry!!!

 

We have to go back to the way things used to be - that when a game was done, it was DONE. No going back in with a patch THREE YEARS LATER and sending the entire community into a frenzy. All so you can get one more tank of gas for your private jet. The idea that they think they can consistently piss-off their fanbase with their crappy cash-grabs is ludicrous. With all that is going on with FO76, how the hell did they think doing this was a smart idea?! The answer is... they just didn't give a s___.

[metaphorset]

@MarkusTay

Honestly I don't get why this update thing is still a problem for so many people. I just popped into Fallout 4 today again and my version is still 1.10.82.0
And I play "online" all the time.

And to clarify things a little more - it's not necessarily only the exe that gets updated.

Steam Settings for Fallout 4: Update -> Automatic Updates -> Only update this game when I launch it -> Background Downloads -> Never allow Background Downloads.

 

Then all you have to do is launch the game from within SteamApps\common\Fallout 4 folder, either by double-clicking on Fallout4.exe or by using the shortcut provided by FOSE (which you should have installed anyway).

No need to play offline, the only thing you might want to do is making a backup onto a USB drive.

There, no "updates" - as long as you don't want them. It's messy, it's everything but convenient but it's the closest thing we could get. And regarding Bugthesda's other IPs, which already require Denuvo - it could be worse.

 

And BTW - "bug free" games are a myth. There is no such thing as "bug free" in the Computer Industry as a whole.