Frequent CTD on inventory/power/main menus, frequent freezing on forge/purchase menus

[WakahisaSensei]

As said in the title, Frequent CTD on inventory/power/main menus, frequent freezing on forge/purchase menus. Zero mod conflicts showing up in LOOT or TESedit. My guess is that this has something to do with availible memory. My computer is new and likely has a great deal of ram. I used to use ENB for this sort of thing, but when I install ENB, no matter how precisely I follow the instructions , my CTD rate skyrockets when I have it installed. So I cannot use ENBoost until I figure that out (and I may not ever be able to). For the sake of needing help, I'll post the load order and INI's below. I'll also post the ENB ini i have ready to go if I can figure out what the problem is.

 

I also want to say, my load order has not changed. This problem started suddenly and has grown worse out of nowhere. I've been playing for weeks now and all seemed normal. This week I gradually got more and more freezes on the forge menu and now its out of control. As far as I can tell, nothing has updated, nothing has changed. There are no new mods in my setup. I truly don't get it.

 

load order

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 hdtHighHeel.esm

7 7 ApachiiHair.esm

8 8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm

9 9 ApachiiHairMales.esm

10 a Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm

11 b Vampire Slavers Den v2.0.esm

12 c RaceCompatibility.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

13 d FNIS.esp

14 e SkyUI.esp

15 f RaceMenu.esp

16 10 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

17 11 XPMSE.esp

18 12 RaceMenuMimic.esp

19 13 Brows.esp

20 14 REP_Tattoos.esp

21 15 Fachry Raven the Titan Follower.esp

22 16 EyesFix.esp

23 17 Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp

24 18 Eyes of Aber.esp

25 19 ParticleField.esp

26 1a Animated Dragon Wings.esp

27 1b Harry Potter Spells.esp

28 1c Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

29 1d KillCurse.esp

30 1e Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp

31 1f RavenCastle.esp

32 20 LairOfDarkness.esp

33 21 DarkEnvoy.esp

34 22 SummonVampireCattle.esp

35 23 SuccubusRaceLite.esp

36 24 Merta Assassin Armor.esp

37 25 Draconic Bloodline.esp

38 26 lilithssickle.esp

39 27 DragonBoneBikini.esp

40 28 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

41 29 FNIS_PCEA2.esp

42 2a VioLens.esp

43 2b FNISSexyMove.esp

44 2c RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

45 2d CROSS_Crucible.esp

46 2e Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

47 2f Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp

48 30 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp

49 31 SCS_RacePatch_Succubus.esp

50 32 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Sky prefs ini

[General]

fBrightLightColorB=1.0000

fBrightLightColorG=1.0000

fBrightLightColorR=1.0000

iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1

bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0

[imagespace]

bDoDepthOfField=1

iRadialBlurLevel=0

[Display]

iBlurDeferredShadowMask=0

fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000

fShadowDistance=2000.0000

iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048

iShadowSplitCount=2

iMaxAnisotropy=1

fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000

fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000

fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=0.0000

fGamma=1.0000

fDecalLOD2=1500.0000

fDecalLOD1=1000.0000

fSpecularLODStartFade=0.0000

fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000

fLightLODStartFade=0.0000

iTexMipMapMinimum=0

iTexMipMapSkip=0

iWaterMultiSamples=0

iMultiSample=1

iShadowMode=3

bTreesReceiveShadows=0

bDrawLandShadows=0

bFull Screen=1

iSize H=1080

iSize W=1920

fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000

fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=3072.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=4096.0000

iScreenShotIndex=2

bShadowMaskZPrepass=0

bMainZPrepass=0

iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=0

iMaxDecalsPerFrame=0

bFloatPointRenderTarget=1

sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060"

bFXAAEnabled=0

iShadowMapResolution=512

fShadowBiasScale=0.5000

iShadowMaskQuarter=4

iAdapter=0

iPresentInterval=1

iShadowFilter=3

bShadowsOnGrass=1

bTransparencyMultisampling=0

bDeferredShadows=1

bDrawShadows=1

[Grass]

b30GrassVS=0

fGrassStartFadeDistance=0.0000

fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000

fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000

[MAIN]

bGamepadEnable=1

bCrosshairEnabled=1

fHUDOpacity=1.0000

bSaveOnPause=0

bSaveOnTravel=1

bSaveOnWait=1

bSaveOnRest=1

fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000

[GamePlay]

bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1

bShowQuestMarkers=1

iDifficulty=0

[interface]

bDialogueSubtitles=1

bGeneralSubtitles=1

fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000

bShowCompass=1

[Controls]

fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000

fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125

bAlwaysRunByDefault=1

bInvertYValues=0

bGamePadRumble=0

bMouseAcceleration=1

bUseKinect=0

[Particles]

iMaxDesired=750

[saveGame]

fAutosaveEveryXMins=60.0000

[AudioMenu]

fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000

fVal7=1.0000

uID7=0

fVal6=1.0000

uID6=0

fVal5=1.0000

uID5=0

fVal4=1.0000

uID4=0

fVal3=1.0000

uID3=94881

fVal2=0.4000

uID2=466532

fVal1=1.0000

uID1=554685

fVal0=0.8000

uID0=1007612

[Clouds]

fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000

fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000

fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000

fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000

[TerrainManager]

fTreeLoadDistance=12500.0000

fBlockMaximumDistance=75000.0000

fBlockLevel1Distance=25000.0000

fBlockLevel0Distance=15000.0000

fSplitDistanceMult=0.4000

bShowLODInEditor=0

[NavMesh]

fObstacleAlpha=0.5000

fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000

fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500

fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000

fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500

fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000

fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000

fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500

fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000

fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000

fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000

fEdgeThickness=10.0000

fPointSize=2.5000

[Trees]

bRenderSkinnedTrees=1

uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20

[Decals]

uMaxDecals=0

bDecals=0

bSkinnedDecals=0

uMaxSkinDecals=0

uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=0

[LOD]

fLODFadeOutMultObjects=0.0000

fLODFadeOutMultItems=0.0000

fLODFadeOutMultActors=0.0000

fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000

[Launcher]

bEnableFileSelection=1

bShowAllResolutions=1

uLastAspectRatio=3

[blurShaderHDR]

bDoHighDynamicRange=0

[blurShader]

bUseBlurShader=0

[Water]

iWaterReflectHeight=512

iWaterReflectWidth=512

bUseWaterDisplacements=1

bUseWaterRefractions=1

bUseWaterReflections=1

bUseWaterDepth=1

 

 

 

skyrim ini

 

 

[[General]

sLanguage=ENGLISH

 

uExterior Cell Buffer=36

 

[Display]

fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0

fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0

fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048

bAllowScreenshot=1

 

[Audio]

fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0

fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0

fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0

fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0

 

[Grass]

bAllowCreateGrass=1

bAllowLoadGrass=0

 

[GeneralWarnings]

SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

 

[Archive]

sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa

sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

bInvalidateOlderFiles=1

SInvalidationFile=ArchiveInvalidation.txt

 

[Combat]

fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

 

[Papyrus]

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0

bEnableLogging=1

bEnableTrace=1

bLoadDebugInformation=1

[Water]

bReflectLODObjects=0

bReflectLODLand=0

bReflectSky=0

bReflectLODTrees=0

[Launcher]

bEnableFileSelection=1

 

 

 

ENBlocal ini (The guy who made ENB himself said this was setup properly. I have literally no idea why installing ENB is making my Skyrim CTD more often. Like an 80-90% chance it will CTD on startup and a 70% chance it will CTD within a few mins of play) I'm more than willing to bet if I could get ENB working it would solve most of my problems.

Edited December 11, 2018 by WakahisaSensei

[WakahisaSensei]

For some reason when i post the ENB ini is doesn't stay in the spoiler tag properly. Trying again in a different post.

 

 

 

[PROXY]

EnableProxyLibrary=false

InitProxyFunctions=false

ProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll

[GLOBAL]

UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true

UseDefferedRendering=false

IgnoreCreationKit=true

[PERFORMANCE]

SpeedHack=true

EnableOcclusionCulling=true

[MEMORY]

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false

ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true

DisableDriverMemoryManager=false

DisablePreloadToVRAM=false

EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false

ReservedMemorySizeMb=128

VideoMemorySizeMb=7906

EnableCompression=false

AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false

[THREADS]

DataSyncMode=0

PriorityMode=0

EnableUnsafeFixes=false

[MULTIHEAD]

ForceVideoAdapterIndex=false

VideoAdapterIndex=0

[WINDOW]

ForceBorderless=true

ForceBorderlessFullscreen=false

[ENGINE]

ForceAnisotropicFiltering=true

MaxAnisotropy=16

ForceLodBias=false

LodBias=0.0

AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false

EnableVSync=true

VSyncSkipNumFrames=0

[LIMITER]

WaitBusyRenderer=false

EnableFPSLimit=true

FPSLimit=55.0

[iNPUT]

//shift

KeyCombination=16

//f12

KeyUseEffect=123

//home

KeyFPSLimit=36

//num / 106

KeyShowFPS=106

//print screen

KeyScreenshot=44

//enter

KeyEditor=13

//f4

KeyFreeVRAM=115

//B

KeyBruteForce=66

KeyDepthOfField=118

[ADAPTIVEQUALITY]

Enable=false

Quality=1

DesiredFPS=20.0

[ANTIALIASING]

EnableEdgeAA=false

EnableTemporalAA=false

EnableSubPixelAA=false

[FIX]

FixGameBugs=true

FixParallaxBugs=true

FixParallaxTerrain=false

FixAliasedTextures=true

IgnoreInventory=true

FixTintGamma=true

RemoveBlur=false

FixSubSurfaceScattering=true

FixSkyReflection=true

FixCursorVisibility=true

FixLag=false

[LONGEXPOSURE]

EnableLongExposureMode=false

Time=1.0

BlendMax=0.0

Ok now it works for some reason. All i did was copy and paste but whatever.

Edited December 11, 2018 by WakahisaSensei

[Pallentibus]

Even though it seems to work for you now, I would still fix that issue because if you install more performance using mods this could cause you many issues and CTDs later on.

 

So here are some guides for the ENBoost and correctly using your settings.

Here for the memory settings: ENBlocal INI/Memory (Don't miss the part with the VRamSizeTest tool because that is the important part which I think causes your game to crash)

Guide for properly using ENBoost

 

Also why do you limit your framerate to 55? In the [Limiter] section of the enblocal.ini

I would either disable it and follow that video on how to do it if you have a Nvidia card.

I prefer limiting the framerate in my driver settings because this is the best working method in my opinion. Because a too high framerate causes a lot of issues and bugs and a too low one isn't enjoyable for gaming.

 

Some other ini tweaking tutorials on Nexus:

Crash Prevention Guide

Skyrim Ini Presets

 

If you want a better looking game try using the RealVison ENB for example because it includes the ENBoost.

 

Good Luck!

[WakahisaSensei]

Even though it seems to work for you now, I would still fix that issue because if you install more performance using mods this could cause you many issues and CTDs later on.

 

So here are some guides for the ENBoost and correctly using your settings.

Here for the memory settings: ENBlocal INI/Memory (Don't miss the part with the VRamSizeTest tool because that is the important part which I think causes your game to crash)

Guide for properly using ENBoost

 

Also why do you limit your framerate to 55? In the [Limiter] section of the enblocal.ini

I would either disable it and follow that video on how to do it if you have a Nvidia card.

I prefer limiting the framerate in my driver settings because this is the best working method in my opinion. Because a too high framerate causes a lot of issues and bugs and a too low one isn't enjoyable for gaming.

 

Some other ini tweaking tutorials on Nexus:

Crash Prevention Guide

Skyrim Ini Presets

 

If you want a better looking game try using the RealVison ENB for example because it includes the ENBoost.

 

Good Luck!

Followed all the ENB steps already. I will try adjusting the framerate as you recommend. Maybe that's my problem. Last time I used ENB 55 was the sweet-spot. Otherwise I've followed the crash fix guide etc. And making the game pretty is secondary to me. Unless realvision ENB has better functionality than the version I'm using, I see no reason to switch. Game already looks beautiful enough in my opinion.

 

Thank you for the help. I'll give some of this stuff a try and see if I missed anything.

[Pallentibus]

Good luck mate. It's kinda rocket science making a heavy modded Oldrim run smoothly. Haha

That is why I prefer Special Edition because this hour long ini tweaking isn't that important anymore xD

[WakahisaSensei]

Good luck mate. It's kinda rocket science making a heavy modded Oldrim run smoothly. Haha

That is why I prefer Special Edition because this hour long ini tweaking isn't that important anymore xD

SE seems to have fewer mods (and lacks some of my favorites in particular). Besides, I enjoy the puzzle and it teaches me a lot.

 

Speaking of which. Turning off the frame rate limit for ENB has not stopped the CTD on startup issue, nor reduced it. Having ENB running fixes all of the freezes I was experiencing so far. If I can just get the CTD to stop on startup/save load then all will be in perfect order.

 

I've tried doing all sorts of things with the frame-rate/vsynch but it seems that unless I use ENB frame limits/vsynch (or don't use ENB at all) the game's frame rates explode and cause all sorts of physics glitches. I either use ENB with frame limits, don't use ENB at all, or use ENB and suffer frame rates up to 170.

Edited December 12, 2018 by WakahisaSensei

[WakahisaSensei]

EDIT: Attempts to limit frames outside of ENB have had no effect. I tried to limit frames via the nvidia control panel but the frames remained way above the refresh rate. I had wolves teleporting all over the place. For now I either have to use ENB with vsynch and suffer CTD, use ENB with no frame limits (which actually does still give me CTD but adds physics glitches), or ditch ENB and suffer freezes but less (though not absent) CTD.

Edited December 12, 2018 by WakahisaSensei

[Pallentibus]

Here are some other guides that helped me a lot preventing crashes

SSME

Crash Fixes

 

 

 

SE seems to have fewer mods (and lacks some of my favorites in particular). Besides, I enjoy the puzzle and it teaches me a lot.

I wouldn't say that. I mean all essential and most downloaded kods have already been ported properly.

Like 90% of the other mods can be ported even withouth modding skills. Except the ones that include a .dll file need to be converted to 64 bit which requires the source code.

 

But if you have crashes in the menus it is maybe SkyUI. Check if your Skyrim version and your SKSE version match your SkyUI version!(Completely forgot that one.)

 

Otherwise I think you should reinstall everything (even Skyrim from Steam) and try using Mod Organizer 2.

Edited December 13, 2018 by Pallentibus

[WakahisaSensei]

Here are some other guides that helped me a lot preventing crashes

SSME

Crash Fixes

 

 

 

SE seems to have fewer mods (and lacks some of my favorites in particular). Besides, I enjoy the puzzle and it teaches me a lot.

I wouldn't say that. I mean all essential and most downloaded kods have already been ported properly.

Like 90% of the other mods can be ported even withouth modding skills. Except the ones that include a .dll file need to be converted to 64 bit which requires the source code.

 

But if you have crashes in the menus it is maybe SkyUI. Check if your Skyrim version and your SKSE version match your SkyUI version!(Completely forgot that one.)

 

Otherwise I think you should reinstall everything (even Skyrim from Steam) and try using Mod Organizer 2.

I am using MO 2. Tried reinstalling several times. The menu crashes go away if I have ENB, but when I have ENB I get frequent CTD on startup. (Using the latest version of everything as far as I can tell). Pretty sure SKYUI is functioning normally, and there are no mod-conflicts.

[Pallentibus]

That is strange, maybe this helps :/