HUGE problem: Skyrim and other Bethesda games crash

[Dragonflarcos]

Hi guys, I'm frustrated, all my Bethesda games( Skyrim, FONV and FO3) crash on startup or freeze after loading the game.

Soundsettings are 24bit 48k.

I only have mods for Skyrim( a lot)

[bben46]

We will need a lot more info to troubleshoot

Operating System

System specs

Game versions

Steam or other

Where they are installed

Mod load order lists

Are you using any utility programs - OBSE, SKSE, etc

Precisely when does each one crash and what was it doing just before the crash

Any error messages

 

Here is a little something to get you started

Here is a link to my mods troubleshooting blog on my own site.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/bbenlibrary/topic/4751769/1/?x=0#post631601

 

Currently still under construction - any suggestions will be appreciated. As the site is only open to comments by invitation, please make your suggestions by PM (Private Message) at the Nexus.

[Dragonflarcos]

Windows 7

i7 870 @2.93 HD 6870 1 GB version aaand 1gb ram

Game version is 1.6.89 I think

legal

Mods are installed with NMM

First happened to Skyrim when I manually installed SkyRE

I use sometimes SKSE to get rid of the warning in the inventory but most of the time i just ignore this

Crashes to desktop after Logo appears

No error messages, I've fixed my Skyrim lots and lots of times but it was a damn pain and this one seems to be more difficult.

 

And btw I have a suggestion to your awesome blog: Add some performance tricks/tweaks

Edited July 8, 2012 by Dragonflarcos

[bben46]

aaand 1gb ram

If this is right it may be your problem. With only 1 GB Ram, windows is using half of that - leaving a half Gig for the game! Minimum specs published by Bethesda say 2Gig is the minimum. Whenever you run out of RAM, the game will crash. And the more mods, the quicker you will run out.

 

With that i7- you should be running the x64 bit version of Windows7.

 

Even with the 32 bit version (x86 - they changed the numbering system :rolleyes:) you can usually install up to 4Gig, leaving 3.5 Gig to play the game. With a 64 bit, and More than 4Gig of ram you will have the entire 4Gig that Skyrim can use available - any windows and other background stuff will be pushed into the ram available over the 4Gig Skyrim limit.

 

As for adding performance tweaks, someone has already done a far better job than I could.

http://www.tweakguides.com/ :thumbsup:

[Dragonflarcos]

Sry my bad, I actually meant 8gb DDR3 and not 1gb

They game ran well till I installed skyre, but before skyre I had some random CTDs ( i checked if it was a hardware problem but it wasnt)

Edited July 8, 2012 by Dragonflarcos

[MotoSxorpio]

Windows 7

i7 870 @2.93 HD 6870 1 GB version aaand 1gb ram

Game version is 1.6.89 I think

legal

Mods are installed with NMM

First happened to Skyrim when I manually installed SkyRE

I use sometimes SKSE to get rid of the warning in the inventory but most of the time i just ignore this

Crashes to desktop after Logo appears

No error messages, I've fixed my Skyrim lots and lots of times but it was a damn pain and this one seems to be more difficult.

 

And btw I have a suggestion to your awesome blog: Add some performance tricks/tweaks

 

If a mod declares that SKSE is required, don't expect the mod to work if you don't use the required files correctly. As suggested above, list your mods, as they are in your load order and any mods installed that have no plugin or are outsourced, eg, ENBseries and the like (dx9 dlls), texture packs that replace VAnilla...etc.

[Dragonflarcos]

Hmm I will list them, btw I use ENB 1.08 True HDR with the .exe and 2k HD Skyrim

 

Before you're speechless, I only use 70% of them .

 

+Summary

−Script Extender And Script Extender Plugins

SKSE Version: 0.1.5.9

SKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll Version: 1.13.0.1

−Recognised And Re-ordered Plugins

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

SkyMoMod.esm Active

BlackTowerArmory.esm

JSwords.esm

Deus Mons.esm

moonpath.esm

ArmedttTeeth.esm

AP Skyrim.esm Active

ApachiiHair.esm Active

SoS - The Dungeons.esp Active

SoS - The Wilds.esp Active

breezehomelightfix.esp

Shadow Striping Fix.esp Active

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

DFG's Blade & Dagger Sheathe Sounds.esp

skyradio.esp Active

CLARALUX - LightAdjuster - Increased Bright Increased Radius.esp

Note: Use only one LightAdjuster.

Realistic Lighting - Full.esp Active

Realistic Lighting.esp Active

Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp Active

Natural Skyrim Rain.esp

Warmer Magic Lights v2.esp Active

bigdanscozyvillages.esp

SkyrimURWL.esp

Weapons and Armor fixes.esp Active

Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp Active

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Behemoth Dragon.esp

Birds.esp

Birdsofskyrim.esp

Catsofskyrim.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

Crimson Tide - Blood.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

Dogsofskyrim.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - Around Cities.esp

Note: Obsolete upgrade to new version

Lanterns Of Skyrim - Bridges x2 - OnOff.esp

Note: Obsolete upgrade to new version

Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp

MomoDash.esp

More Craftables.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Convertible Azura's Star.esp

People Have Torches.esp

SabreFurBag.esp

ScenicCarriages.esp Active

SkyMoMod_lists.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

SpaceWikingSpecialEffectFreyjaGems.esp Active

TK_Clutter_Plants.esp Active

TorchShadow_Default.esp Active

TorchShadow_Tweaked.esp Active

Tytanis.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp

Note: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for 'bDoDepthOfField'. Make sure it is set to 1.

IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp

BlackSacramentArmor.esp

Cloaks - No Imperial.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Note: Use only one cloaks*esp

Cloaks.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Note: Use only one cloaks*esp

Cloaks - Player Only.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Note: Use only one cloaks*esp

Craftable Artifacts.esp

DBShreddedTriss.esp

Dagger of time.esp

DragonBoneWeaponsComplete.esp

DwarvenArmorWeapons.esp

DwarvenMech.esp

geralt_ravenarmor_v02b.esp

GeraltJacket.esp

Gizmodian-Obliviweapons.esp

hunterarmorv1.2.esp

kimono's witcher silver swords.esp

King's Slayer Armor.esp

LFArmors.esp

loners_sword.esp

Iorveth.esp

NightsWatchArmor.esp

Omegared99-Compilation.esp

Note: Obsolete. Upgrade to version 3.3

Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp

Omegared99-Compilation-NPC Plugin.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

RealFireArrows.esp

ReversedDaggers2.1.esp

Saskia.esp Active

SilverDragonArmor.esp Active

TH3WICK3D1-GeraltSeltkirkArmor.esp Active

tom349fistweapons.esp Active

TrissArmorRetextured.esp Active

viciousdawnbreaker.esp Active

Wanderer Armor.esp Active

WeaponsOf3E.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp Active

Note: Use balanced version with Complete Crafting Overhaul mod

Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp

Note: Will conflict with mods that modify existing recipes.

DeadlyDragons.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

DeadlyDragonsCreature.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} not tested

DeadlyDragonsEF.esp

BecomeKingOfRiverHelm.esp

BetterRiften.esp

BlackTowerUpdate.esp

Deus Mons_WithNPCs.esp

hobbithouse.esp

moonpath_questdata.esp

SolitudeCapitalCity.esp Active

MoreSolitudeFlora V1.0.esp

The Asteria - Dwemer Airship.esp Active

whiterunMarket.esp Active

WhiterunFortified.esp Active

WhiterunREVISION.esp Active

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

Bigger dragons.esp

GloriousGrass.esp

More Dynamic Shadows.esp Active

posesivecorpses.esp

Distant Detail.esp

Skyrim Moon Size x1.5.esp Active

SkyRe_Main.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}

Incompatible with: Syynx's Perky

Incompatible with: Complete Crafting Overhaul

Note: Make sure to get the Vampire HotFix. Optional Wot3E Resource Pack

SkyRe_Plugin_DragonBoneWeaponsComplete_1.03.esp

SkyRe_Enemies.esp

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

Incompatible with: Drakian race

SkyRe_Lighting.esp

Note: Only for non ENB users

SkyRe_Plugin_BaratheonArmor_1.esp

SkyRe_Plugin_BetterBows_1.4.1.esp

SkyRe_Plugin_HedgeKnightArmor_1.esp

SkyRe_Plugin_JaySuSSwords_1.3D.esp

Note: Remember to delete JSwords*.esp

SkyRe_Plugin_NicoroshiCreations_1.1.esp

SkyRe_Plugin_RedguardKnightArmor_3.esp

SkyRe_Plugin_BerserkBlackSwordsmanArmor.esp

SkyRe_Plugin_VagabondArmor_5.esp

SkyRe_Plugin_VanguardArmor_3.esp

SkyRe_Plugin_WarchiefArmor_4.esp

SkyTEST-RealPredators&Animals.esp Active

Note: Obsolete. Update to 1.20+

SMEssentialPlayer.esp Active

Spells Cast Light.esp Active

Uncle Sheo.esp Active

Better Villages.esp

Riverwood Enhanced - Detailed Cities.esp

TRO_BasicNeeds.esp Active

TRO_BasicNeeds_WATERPatch.esp Active

SkyRe_Vampirism.esp

Incompatible with: Belua Sanguinare

Incompatible with: Better Vampires

Incompatible with: Vampire Overhaul

Incompatible with: Vampirism II

Incompatible with: Imp's More Complex Needs

Elementalist.esp

PowerMasterTheTimeAndSpace.esp

Note: Obsolete upgrade to version 1.4

TriRoc Stripper Companion.esp Active

2SecShadowWarrior.esp Active

dovahkiinrelax.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp

ELEMEarthPrison.esp

ElemIceWall.esp

FNISspells.esp

The Dance of Death.esp Active

Duel - Combat Realism.esp

Killmove +.esp

SkyRe_Combat.esp

AP Skyrim.esp Active

SkyRe_Races.esp

Incompatible with: EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

Incompatible with: DSpSob - Duel Sheath plus Shields on Back (conflicts with skeletons)

Incompatible with: ATT - Armed to the Teeth (Also conflicts with skeletons)

Incompatible with: Gender and Race Heights (Once again, conflicts with skeletons)

skyrimespawn7.esp

skyrimespawn3.esp

skyrimespawn2.esp

skyrimespawn.esp

DynamicTimeScale.esp

WATER.esp Active

WATER - Get Wet.esp Active

GreenWaterFixForWATER.esp

Note: Obsolete upgrade to new version.

GreenWaterFix.esp

Note: Upgrade to vertion 1.1 (For Vanilla water ONLY)

cartographers map markers.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

−Unrecognised Plugins

 

Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

LB_MuchAdoSnowElves.esm

Better Forests and Environments.esp

PeacefulMudcrabs.esp

DwemerBombs.esp

For the Brotherhood Daggers.esp

LB_MuchAdoSnowElves_PartI.esp

SpaceWikingGlitchRemovalTool.esp Active

Ultimate Witcher MOD.esp Active

LawnDaveTheDragon.esp

ShreddedTrissHat.esp Active

 

Why is this forumsystem trolling me? Arent there any "spoiler" plugins? :( nvm

Edited July 8, 2012 by Dragonflarcos

[Dragonflarcos]

I also use some mountain textures (2-4k)