NPCs in open world speak but without moving there lips.

[ebg2465]

Has anyone experienced this problem - The NPCs will talk fine but the animation for their mouths just does not happen. They'll move their heads around but no lip movement of their spoken dialog. I have never seen this happen before. This only happens with some NPCs, for example the 4 Imperials escorting the Stormcloak prisoner near Whiterun. Any idea what I could do or what might be causing this?

 

Thanks,

 

EBG2465

 

 

 

Here is my PC Stats:

 

Motherboard: Intel® DP67BG Extreme Series

Processor: Intel® Core™ i7 2600K 3.4GHz/3.8GHz Turbo 8MB L3 Cache GT2

Memory: 16GB Patriot® Division2 G2 DDR3-1600 Enhanced Latency (4x4GB)

Graphics and GPGPU Accelerator: 2x NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 570 2.4GB GDDR5 Total in SLI

 

 

Here is my mod load order:

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

AIKhajiitCompanions.esm

AmethystHollowsMaster.esm

WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm

JSwords.esm

LevelersTower.esm

Skyrim Adventurer's Tent.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

Omegared99-Compilation.esm

AsharaMerchantNPC.esm

HighFive.esm

EACalypsoE_1_2.esm

AIBosmerCompanions.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - RCRN Legacy.esp

SkyrimURWL.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp

ADV HB-Style.esp

AV1Dragon_Lords.esp

Bag of Holding.esp

BagofTrash.esp

Birdsofskyrim.esp

BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp

Catsofskyrim.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

Dogsofskyrim.esp

Legionettes.esp

Mannequins.esp

morevillageanimals.esp

Perfect Legionnaire 3.0.esp

Vampirefix3.esp

Actualize Apparel.esp

AsharaRomanticOutfit.esp

AsharaWeddingOutfit.esp

Divine Aegis.esp

Divine Aegis Sword.esp

Elemental Staves.esp

FioraArmor.esp

GDRangerDress.esp

HeaterShield.esp

HedgeKnight.esp

HuntressArmor.esp

Insanity's Chrysamere.esp

Ivory.esp

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp

Masters of Death - Sicarius Armor (Standalone).esp

Nicoroshi Creations.esp

Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp

Omegared99-Compilation-NPC Plugin.esp

ScoutArmor.esp

TriRings of Powers v1.0.esp

VagabondArmor.esp

ASOIAF gear.esp

ApotheusLightArmor_by_GuitunScarfin.esp

dovahkiin_weapons_shield.esp

HeroicDragonscale.esp

Insanity's Ice Blade of the Monarch.esp

Mithril HD v1.2.1.esp

Matys Mithril armor Enhanced.esp

RoyalElven.esp

Reaper's Hunter's Armor.esp

Skyrim Shield.esp

AsharaRadiantRaiment.esp

Mighty Dragons.esp

AmethystHollowsUpdate.esp

LakesideHideaway.esp

RayeksEnd.esp

voidLetsGetNaked.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

FasterHorses_Sprint_x1_5.esp

LaFemmeLycana.esp

SimpleTeleport.esp

SpectralHordeSpell.esp

Als Thunder Smite.esp

Sundys_Male_Presets.esp

MoreTraining_50.esp

No Helmets Required.esp

posesivecorpses.esp

lessarrows.esp

RichMerchants.esp

Slighty Mighty Dragon Priests.esp

VariousGuardReplacer.esp

Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp

Unique Region Names.esp

Jump200.esp

Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp

Unique Booze Bottles Alternate Names Version.esp

Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons.esp

LovelyHairstyles.esp

AIKhajiitCompanions.esp

AIBosmerCompanions.esp

HighFive.esp

EACalypsoE_1_2.esp

Nathan.esp

Lexi.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp

HousecarlBeauties.esp

AelaTheHuntressFacelift.esp

Follower Trap Safety.esp

Spousetocustomhome.esp

NoNakedComments.esp

FollowMeNicelyDammit-LetsUsChat.esp

My Home Is Your Home.esp

WATER.esp

WATER - Get Wet.esp

PlayerHomeMapMarkers.esp

Unmarked Places - Dragon Mounds.esp

[ChaChaLoco]

Having the exact same problem; can't figure it out at ALL!

 

Load Order:

Skyrim.esm (X)

Update.esm (X)

3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm

CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm

WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm

JSwords.esm (X)

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

HighResTexturePackFix.esp

MintyLightningMod.esp

MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

IceBreaker's Improved Reverb.esp

Improved Combat Sounds V2.1.esp

Rooster At Dawn V1.0.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons&Interiors.esp

Weapons and Armor fixes.esp

Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp (X)

Bridsofskyrim.esp (X)

Catsofskyrim.esp (X)

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp (X)

Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

Dogsofskyrim.esp (X)

Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp (X)

Auto Unequip Arrows.esp

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp

IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp

Cloaks.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp (X)

3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp

3rdEraWeapMoS-rareCraft.esp

Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp (X)

Lawrens RNG Guards.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

Detailed Cities.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

BFSEffects.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

The Dance of Death.esp

MountedCasting.esp

AT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp

AT - Progressive Damage (BS and CCO).esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp (X)

Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp (X)

WATER.esp (X)

WATER - Get Wet.esp (X)

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Automatic Variants.esp

 

Ones with (X) next to them are mods that we both have installed. In this way we can probably narrow down what's causing this bug.

[ChaChaLoco]

I suspected UFO might be the problem but, according to the mod author, this bug is unrelated to UFO.

[ChaChaLoco]

Okay just did some more testing and for me I narrowed this bug down to SkyTEST being the cause of it. At least whenever I have SkyTEST turned on I get this bug.

 

I tried turning off all the mods we both had in common and just leaving SkyTEST on to see if it was a conflict with one of those mods; it wasn't. As far as I can tell this bug is all SkyTEST.

 

I couldn't test turning off every other single mod in my load order because it will take forever!

[ChaChaLoco]

The author of SkyTEST cannot replicate this bug so it MUST be a mod incompatibility issue.

I can't narrow it down though! I tried turning off every .esp except SkyTEST and I still get the bug!

Even on a new save game! I can't test with a vanilla game because I don't have the time to uninstall my mods and then re-install them all one by one until I get the bug!

:/

[Hasni4592]

This is so annoying i was having same issue

Edited May 30, 2014 by Hasni4592

[Hasni4592]

Hey old thread but i had same problem.. been searching for fix and installing/unistalling mods for weeks.. almost gave up then i found out the problem was birds of skyrim... at least in my case it was causing some conflicts or was a problem it self but now lips lock/not moving bug is fixed 100% when deactivated.. if that doesnt work try starting new game or fresh save.. hope i help someone searching for fix because i know how annoying and immersion breaking it is..

 

Edit: After playing more with mods i found out that you cant use Skybirds, birds of skyrim, real wildlife and skytest realistic predators mod together.. only use one of them and the problem wont happen...

Edited May 30, 2014 by Hasni4592

[gentester]

Coming to this a bit late but I wonder if the problem isn't so much one individual mod then, but rather too many extra spawn points. I think both SkyTest and Birds of Skyrim add extra spawn points. It might simply be overloading cells.

I do also have Animalica, Sky Birds, Birds of Skyrim, and Birds and Flocks.

I had this issue of no animation for speech with NPC's (mainly followers), then I installed the version of Skytest that doesn't add any extra spawn points

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46495/?

then stopped Birds of Skyrim spawning in cities in its MCM menu and reduced the number of birds it spawns to 4 down from 5 and the problem went away.

[VikMorroHun]

I don't have SkyTEST, birds of Skyrim, etc. but I get this bug sometimes. I think this bug is introduced in 1.9 patch of Skyrim. It reminds me the "double face bug" from Oblivion because I can see how an NPC's face moving while he is talking, just his lips are not moving. The doubled face covers it.

[dennis20014]

I've had this problem for as long as I can remember. Especially in busy cells (such as whiterun) a lot of people do not have their mouths moving. People will attribute it to the 1.9 patch but that has been out for quite sometime now so it's hard to remember back to previous versions.

 

Common sense tells me though that because of all my scripted mods and textures and just mods haha that it's the cause. My followers never have the problem but I'm guessing it's because they have priority over all other npcs.