enough is enough

[SheerShaw]

TDA's Armory

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LHammonds

 

i admit that i couldn't pull off anything like what the people who make these mods (although if i knew how, i would certainly try) and i do realize that im lucky to have the massive modding community (despite taking for granted) however, i just think that if a mod comes out that looks good, great! if it gets retextured a few times to give more color options, fantastic, but most of exnems is the same model with a different color (and consider how much of our armor is exnems stuff) i think it would make sense for anyone to be irritated by that. adn besides, i don't think i've ever actually rated anything, i still LIKE all the retextures, because they all look good, i'm just wishing that there was more variety in the not-so-armor we get to choose from, and seeing how many people think my way, and btw, if anyone gave me a guide to mod making, i would do my best to make something good

 

SheerShaw

 

thanks for the link, despite me having already picked the ayleid armor with lightsabers from CORE (can anybody say murder the lore?)

[LoginToDownload]

...and btw, if anyone gave me a guide to mod making, i would do my best to make something good.

The Construction Set Wiki has a huge supply of tutorials. For an all-around Construction Set primer, I particularly reccommend A Beginner's Guide. :happy:

[LHammonds]

i admit that i couldn't pull off anything like what the people who make these mods (although if i knew how, i would certainly try)

I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of modders started modding without "knowing" how to do any of this (including myself). Skills are learned one at a time. That huge paragraph I wrote that highlighted some of the things a modder does CANNOT all be learned in a single mod. It has to be done over time and over the course of many projects. I always recommend to new modders to start out small. The easiest things to do are construction set changes (stat changes, item placement, NPCs, etc.), then texture replacers, then unique re-textured items, etc.

 

i just think that if a mod comes out that looks good, great! if it gets retextured a few times to give more color options, fantastic, but most of exnems is the same model with a different color (and consider how much of our armor is exnems stuff) i think it would make sense for anyone to be irritated by that.

Well, as a player, you are simply going to have to get over it. There are a limited number of armor and clothing meshes...there might be 100,000 modders and most start off their modding career with texture replacers. Even when there were NO new meshes being released in the beginning, people were sick and tired of "another" daedric or glass armor being released but like I said, when you start out, you have to work with something. If that means a new glass re-texture by a modder that might one day become the next tda, nicoroshi or EuGENIUS, then I say bring on the glass re-textures and encourage these new modders so they will continue to increase their skill sets. I've seen too many modders start off with something that has been done before only to get pummeled by some cruel people to find out that would be the last mod they shared with the community.

 

i'm just wishing that there was more variety in the not-so-armor we get to choose from

Sounds like you keep justifying your need to start modding. You know you want to. ;)

 

btw, if anyone gave me a guide to mod making, i would do my best to make something good

Careful what you ask for...you might get it. ;)

 

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LHammonds

[Alexb111]

I do get everybody's points here and agree that you have to start small. BUT, what annoys me is with some types of mod where one author does about 40 mods all titled "Rideable ......." and has nearly every object in the game. I would personally do 5 things then leave a message on each saying he can do more if requested. And then the author never advances, he just sits there making the same type of mod with a only a slight adjustment.

 

Like I say I wouldn't mind seeing lots of smaller mods from an author and watching him/her get better at modding but you have to draw the line at 40 nearly identical mods...

 

But all things said, im a failure at modding and therefore have no right to comment......

 

Alexb

[Shadowcran]

When issues like this come up I feel torn two different ways.

 

1- I feel every mod has their place, and a person has every right to upload it. This stuff is slmost completely free, people, lest you forget that.

 

2- Yeah, it does make for a convoluted search for what you're looking for. Me, I don't like the overpowered stuff..where's the fun in that? But that's just me, and not everyone is like me.

 

When torn, I compromise and try to think of a reasonable solution. Exnem's stuff keeps getting appreciated by some and downloaded, therefore it's good to have. What I propose is that we split the armor and clothes forums into subdivisions. One for xrated clothing, the other for practical. Same with the armor.

 

I've been thinking that perhaps subdividing some of the larger topics would make for easier searching. Some mods others consider almost essential to have aren't even listed on here, and I suspect it's A) the modder hasn't uploaded them to THIS site yet or B) it's been overlooked due to the sheer number of mods. Oblivion WarCry, Bob's Armory, and Waalx's Real Swords are considered great mods....but they're not on TESnexus, the #1 Mod site bar none. At least there should be a message with a mirror for where you can download these, but these are also not there. I don't know about you, but I hate going to PlanetELderScrolls or Filefront to download these. Their search engines stink on ice, and Oblivion mods seem just a sideline with them.

 

Anyways, I've spoken my peace.

[LHammonds]

I do get everybody's points here and agree that you have to start small. BUT, what annoys me is with some types of mod where one author does about 40 mods all titled "Rideable ......." and has nearly every object in the game.

I do not understand why this annoys you. If these 40 creatures were not ridable before this author came along, then I would think the person is doing us all a favor. The original point was about the same items being modded over and over. You might as well be annoyed that nicoroshi released so many bow mods. ;) Or is your main grip that the "rideable" creatures were not all packaged into a single mod? If so, then you would have people on the other side of the fence that only wanted one particular rideable creature...those that want all the creatures can use Wyrebash to merge the plugins...not possible the other way around.

 

LHammonds

[Alexb111]

I do get everybody's points here and agree that you have to start small. BUT, what annoys me is with some types of mod where one author does about 40 mods all titled "Rideable ......." and has nearly every object in the game.

I do not understand why this annoys you. If these 40 creatures were not ridable before this author came along, then I would think the person is doing us all a favor. The original point was about the same items being modded over and over. You might as well be annoyed that nicoroshi released so many bow mods. ;) Or is your main grip that the "rideable" creatures were not all packaged into a single mod? If so, then you would have people on the other side of the fence that only wanted one particular rideable creature...those that want all the creatures can use Wyrebash to merge the plugins...not possible the other way around.

 

LHammonds

 

What annoys me is the fact that for 3 solid weeks I looked at recent mods and saw a list populated 90% of rideable creatures...ok I used one/two of these but did we need 30....The author (which by this time was proficient at it) could release 5 or 6 mods and a guide on how to make things rideable so people could make what they want rideable with his knowledge. Rather than release everything on Oblivion rideable just make a few so people get a taste then release a guide on how to make your own (so everyone could do it themselves and get into modding at the same time :D)

[myrmaad]

I do get everybody's points here and agree that you have to start small. BUT, what annoys me is with some types of mod where one author does about 40 mods all titled "Rideable ......." and has nearly every object in the game.

I do not understand why this annoys you. If these 40 creatures were not ridable before this author came along, then I would think the person is doing us all a favor. The original point was about the same items being modded over and over. You might as well be annoyed that nicoroshi released so many bow mods. ;) Or is your main grip that the "rideable" creatures were not all packaged into a single mod? If so, then you would have people on the other side of the fence that only wanted one particular rideable creature...those that want all the creatures can use Wyrebash to merge the plugins...not possible the other way around.

 

LHammonds

 

What annoys me is the fact that for 3 solid weeks I looked at recent mods and saw a list populated 90% of rideable creatures...ok I used one/two of these but did we need 30....The author (which by this time was proficient at it) could release 5 or 6 mods and a guide on how to make things rideable so people could make what they want rideable with his knowledge. Rather than release everything on Oblivion rideable just make a few so people get a taste then release a guide on how to make your own (so everyone could do it themselves and get into modding at the same time :D)

 

 

Pardon me, me cynicism, but "So What?" If you don't like it, don't download it. Someone else may want to use that. (Not me, I don't want anything rideable, except a horse thanks. If left to me you'd have gotten Nothing!

 

And my point has been from the beginning, if anyone looks around, the tools needed for creating clothing and armor, as well as tutorials, are freely available, Google IS YOUR FRIEND. I've kept quiet til now, on this subject, but damnstraight I have an opinion.

 

I hate the "floss" clothing and armors, with a purple passion. There are some other options out there, and not only that but I'm not loyal to my body, because let me tell you clothes are waay too important for my enjoyment of the game. Dude I'M A GIRL. (for one thing I'm not loyal to my chosen-body, I mix it up clothingwise, and I figured out how to do that too, because I was lucky enough to download Eshme's first, and she includes bethesda body parts in that mod. Well you can change those body parts to any other body model, and voila! any clothing will work that you have body parts for. That's my 'hotfix' but it doesn't solve it,

 

The Solution is getting down in the dirt with blender. You know I can't see very well, I'm currently having a lot of difficulty with my eyes. For example, yesterday I had to switch out memory in one of our older computers, what should have taken me 15 minutes turned into a 2 hour job because I CAN'T SEE. I'm struggling right now because one eye constantly weeps, and and has blotches around it so the letters are very cloudy, even as i write this.

 

And if I can learn to do this at my age, and with my vision troubles, there's no excuse for any of you who don't like the mods you're getting to start working on ones you like.

 

But you don't have the right to criticize whether someone else has the right to present what they like or feel they can do and share, when you haven't shared anything yourself.

 

End of my rant.

[Shadowcran]

Man, Myrmaad, you sound like the female me. I, too, have eye problems. I"m collecting disability due to it. I'm blind in one eye(the left) and have extremely poor in my right. I also use the "hate with a PURPLE passion" line. lol. No, I'm not flirting as I'm married already.

 

Did no one listen to my earlier compromise to this problem? Let's subdivide the categories. Hell, they're too big as they are now, even ones without conflicts could use some division. It's like bailing water with a bucket full of holes looking for things in particular.