Shakkara Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 And of course the UN does nothing because of the US vetoing against condemnation. As usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluventi Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 I couldn't agree more. If only people could see that a dislike for Israeli policy and behaviour is not the same as a dislike of the Jewish people or their culture/religion perhaps the US could see a way out of the muddle they are now in. If you fund a nation that promotes unreasonable vengeance (I am inclined to use far stronger terms but don't wish to start a flame war) you become target for revenge attacks as much as if you had committed the acts yourself. Until the US cease to fund the Israeli state they have no real interest in finding a peaceful solution. On the contrary the US largesse would probably dry up. Time the US pulled the plug! I couldn't agree with you more. This revenge-revenge policy of both sides is pointless. Although you can see why the Palestinians have ended up going to suicide bombing, when you see how they're treated (water being polluted by Settlement sewage, "every islamic person is a terrorist", worthless regard of life).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObsidianKnight Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 George Bush himself is no genius. He sends our money over there, some goes over there, a few bucks go to this country but America needs that money for Education and just to fix our failing economy. US aid to Israel began a long time before this idiotic sorta-war. QUOTE (Malchik @ Mar 23 2004, 07:38 PM) I couldn't agree more. If only people could see that a dislike for Israeli policy and behaviour is not the same as a dislike of the Jewish people or their culture/religion perhaps the US could see a way out of the muddle they are now in. If you fund a nation that promotes unreasonable vengeance (I am inclined to use far stronger terms but don't wish to start a flame war) you become target for revenge attacks as much as if you had committed the acts yourself. Until the US cease to fund the Israeli state they have no real interest in finding a peaceful solution. On the contrary the US largesse would probably dry up. Time the US pulled the plug! I couldn't agree with you more. This revenge-revenge policy of both sides is pointless. Although you can see why the Palestinians have ended up going to suicide bombing, when you see how they're treated (water being polluted by Settlement sewage, "every islamic person is a terrorist", worthless regard of life).. Exactly. This is a never-ending cycle, which will probably lead to another big war in the Mid East, which Israel may not be so lucky in. If Israel does win again, this terrorism-retaliation cycle will begin again. It will probably end in a massive terrorist attack (say, 1 nuke would probably destroy most of Israel). My challenge is this: a Gandhi-type strategy for the PLO. Gandhi managed to free India almost bloodlessly using hunger-strikes, boycotts, etc. Terrorism is not working for the PLO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakkara Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 The Israeli vulkers also killed the new Hamas leader, Abdel Aziz al-Rantissi. Someone needs to kill ALL the Israeli leaders for once, damn neonazi terrorists that they are. :ranting: :ranting: And their lapdog Bush handed out more Palestinian land to Israel last week... :angry2: Someone needs to kill all US leaders too, imperialist terrorists that they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactoblasta Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 I don't know if I'd act all that differently, if I was an amoral president of a shaky coalition like Sharon. I think I'd probably start up a fake crime family and use them to kill every living Palestinian inside the borders. It wouldn't matter too much if I got found out, because it would still be in the interests of the US government to support me (after all, I have a large nuclear stockpile AND I'm fighting terrorists). I think Machiavelli was right, as he wrote in his Discourses. It's important to be either completely evil or completely good. The kind of half-hearted evil emperor role that Sharon's going for just won't have any success. He needs to exterminate the Palestinians if he really wants to end them as a problem, and then use the threat of nuclear reprisal to end the possibility of state-based responses, like trade embargoes and the like. Otherwise he really has no choice but to give in, give Palestine a state, and then have Israeli companies buy up all their assets, thus allowing Israel to have an empire the new-fashioned way. Assassinations are just not effective enough to be worth the political fallout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zmid Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 What really gets on my tits about this issue is the apparant complete disconnection from reality Tony Blair has about the Israel/Palestine situation. After George Bush practically doing a complete U-turn and saying that Israel had claims on some of the disputed land and not really condemning the Israeli assassinations, and thereby causing absolute fury in Palestine, Tony Blair said that this would be an 'opportunity to return to the road map to peace'. YOU WHAT???? :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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