TeofaTsavo Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) With regard to keeping real world political/religious issues out of the Nexus, I'm in total agreement. I, however, am not. I've always found it strange how Television, Movies, Literature, Art and even Music have long been platforms for exploring, expressing and confronting real-world social and political ideas... And yet most people seem to think the same has no place in video games. Humans are political creatures, it's how we organize, how we interact, how we self identify. it's integration is the highest expression of any art. And yet, it has no place in gaming? Hah! We NEED more real world political and religious issues in games. We need more analogues for real-world problems. And we can't be afraid to go there, because of moronic consumers who think they can avoid the single most important influence in their lives, or fascist ideologues who can't tolerate the idea of someone differing in opinion. Hilarious. You immediately label anyone who may disagree with your premise as a "moronic consumer" or a "fascist ideologue". GG. Edited January 5, 2019 by TeofaTsavo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) GG. So much for actual tolerance. I don't believe i ever advocated for tolerance, now did it? In many ways, i am an incredibly intolerant person, and will proudly admit that. Ignorance is an enemy that must constantly be opposed, and cannot be allowed to fester in any form, at any time. If people refuse to acknowledge the importance of politics, and the understanding therein, they SHOULD be confronted, and they SHOULD be made uncomfortable, just the same as fascists should be opposed, racists should be ostracised, and ideologues should be ridiculed. You immediately label anyone who may disagree with your premise as a "moronic consumer" or a "fascist ideologue". I simply used them as two of the more vocal examples of problematic outlooks that hold back the artistry of the medium. Amongst others there are the Neckeards, the Puritans, the Misandrists, the Traditionalists, the Overbearing Parents, and the ever annoying Trolls. Edited January 5, 2019 by Lachdonin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adipose Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 What makes you think that it's not permitted to make a Mohammed mod. My guess is that no one that is talented enough to make such a mod does care about Mohammed obviously. Oh, guess it did come out that I though it forbidden to mod Mohammed...or anyone else. Far as I know, if one has the talent it's okay to mod anyone or anything, although I'm sure that certain activities will not be permitted...such as personal attacks for example. Maybe modders just don't care about modding Mohammed, though from the initial response to my post I'd say that the lack of Mohammed mods stems from caution rather than lack of interest. If so, that's certainly not the case with regard to Christ. There're approximately a page of Christ related mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharrGazgre Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 More like probably someone already did created such mod but they didn't share them due to certain circumstances................... .Well , you always have an option to create such mod yourself if you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangela Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 This has been posted before already, so I'm thinking the aim is start some kind of religious debate to circumvent the rules.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted21550714User Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019   GG. So much for actual tolerance.  I don't believe i ever advocated for tolerance, now did it? In many ways, i am an incredibly intolerant person, and will proudly admit that. Ignorance is an enemy that must constantly be opposed, and cannot be allowed to fester in any form, at any time. If people refuse to acknowledge the importance of politics, and the understanding therein, they SHOULD be confronted, and they SHOULD be made uncomfortable, just the same as fascists should be opposed, racists should be ostracised, and ideologues should be ridiculed.    You immediately label anyone who may disagree with your premise as a "moronic consumer" or a "fascist ideologue".  I simply used them as two of the more vocal examples of problematic outlooks that hold back the artistry of the medium. Amongst others there are the Neckeards, the Puritans, the Misandrists, the Traditionalists, the Overbearing Parents, and the ever annoying Trolls. People who don't see things my way "SHOULD be confronted and made uncomfortable"???I'm glad I don't know you. Your like Rand Paul's neighbor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) People who don't see things my way "SHOULD be confronted and made uncomfortable"??? In some contexts, yes. Determining what contexts it is appropriate in is the important (and most difficult) part of the struggle. That's why we have Philosophers and Psychologists, Sociologists and a dozen other specialised professions. To collectively evaluate the value and consequences of beliefs and attitudes, and shape informed decisions. And they all agree that Ignorance is the enemy. No one should be allowed to be willfully ignorant, and ignorance should never be praised or defended. Edited January 7, 2019 by Lachdonin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamteck Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 With regard to keeping real world political/religious issues out of the Nexus, I'm in total agreement. I, however, am not. I've always found it strange how Television, Movies, Literature, Art and even Music have long been platforms for exploring, expressing and confronting real-world social and political ideas... And yet most people seem to think the same has no place in video games. Humans are political creatures, it's how we organize, how we interact, how we self identify. it's integration is the highest expression of any art. And yet, it has no place in gaming? Hah! We NEED more real world political and religious issues in games. We need more analogues for real-world problems. And we can't be afraid to go there, because of moronic consumers who think they can avoid the single most important influence in their lives, or fascist ideologues who can't tolerate the idea of someone differing in opinion. Honestly, I think at present time we're oversaturated with politics in all entertainment. Clumsy and blunt ones mostly that destroy story integrity. Some games may invite it I suppose but in general not my cup of tea, especially since its so badly done mostly these days. I go to entertainment to escape that s***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Clumsy and blunt ones mostly that destroy story integrity. Well, that's more an issue of poor storytelling and worldbuilding. Look at Star Trek as an example. Decades of hugely successful shows, and almost every episode dealt with a social, moral, political or ideological issue. The problem isn't politics in games. The problem is idiot writers who can't properly conceal it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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