Mods on KCD need updating

[sirjohn45]

I know this is unwise but 99% of mods on the nexus for Kingdom come Deliverance needs updating from the last update 1.72. I know modders have real lives and do this for us and it's very appreciated, I will always support modders but there are times mods need updating and not quite sure why people make mods then just ignore the obvious. Why bother then? Most mods on nexus from Fallout on are updated by the modders who have good standing or just have the heart to keep their work going. I think some modders forget that mods need to be updated and if not then their mods are broken and those who like their mods are stuck.

This is not an attack on modders as I have had friends who mod and I know its difficult at times to make a mod then to keep it up to date. Those who quit usually have someone take over to keep it updated. A lot of people are upset when after weeks or months a mod is not updated. Then the question is why make a mod that you are not going to keep updated? I have asked questions here about how to start modding with no success. I guess modding is a closed society and they feel like not helping, when in fact if they did help there would be modders who could help keep things going for you so in regards you would have people to help keep your mods going when you get tired or just quit playing a game.

Again this is not an attack just an observation so if you reply do not attack for what was said, I think most would agree with what was said here.

[xilef86]

what you are doing here is probably not the wisest thing. modders make mods for various reasons, but its mostly because they are curious and creative individuals who like to take things apart and reassemble them and they want to add or change something about a game they like. a mod is released as is with no strings attached, but modding often isn't a simple thing.
as both a modder and a game dev i can tell you that it can be really tiresome when people think you owe them something because you spent alot of time creating something for free and let people use it.
i appreciate that you state your post is not meant as an attack, so let me reassure you that i am not angry at you.

 

but still i have to tell you that your perception of this seems a little warped to me.

most modders will have some idea or vision, tackle a mod project that is interesting to them at the time.... and if they actually succeed in pulling it off, they might release it, play the game with their mod and hopefully receive some positive feedback.

and then... well we either find a new project to work on, expand on whats there.. or move on.

alot of games might get updated and the mods break if the same files were changed.

 

so now a modder would have to go back, take the work they have already done, compare it to the new official files and release an update.

maybe they are no longer playing that game, got a career opportunity and are busy or got in an accident.

you are quite frankly in no position to tell people that they should be keeping their mod updated.

if you really want to play a mod then you should either just not update the game (which can be difficult at times, but it is a possibility)

or learn how to mod yourself, then you might be able to actually compare the files yourself and would not have to rely on anyone else.

 

venting your frustration on the day of an update is not going to suddenly bring all those absent modders back or make someone appear who just magically fixes the issues.

most modders would probably shy away from modding if they had to sign a contract to keep their mod updated unless they are really serious about building a portfolio

for a future career as a game developer.

this is a hobby, people do what they want and give it away for free. its not a job.

 

i made my own mod pack.. i had to disable it to play the new DLC. i'm not happy about that but i know what its like to make a mod and i know what its like to develop a whole game from scratch.

this is just an unfortunate reality that you cannot wave away with an opinion.

 

mods change game files, patches change game files... if you revert parts of a patched game things are going to break and work has to be done to fix this.

maybe modders want to play the new stuff before they start modding again, maybe they are absent.

as a modder i have never even thought about finding a replacement for me in my absence.

 

and modding is far from a closed society... its a bunch of curious people and most of them love sharing what they learned.

sometimes you post on a forum or write to a discord chat and no one responds... could be because it just slipped through, maybe no one knows the answer.

it could also be that you asked in a way that generally annoys people. i don't know the details of your case so i do not want to accuse you of anything.

the way you framed this post is not going to make modders want to engage with you.

its not fun to put alot of work into something and then receive negative feedback or even demands about how you should have done it better according to some random person on the internet.

proper constructive criticism is valuable but alot of people just lurk until they spot something they don't like and then point it out.

 

we have to deal with technical limitations and things breaking on updates is just something we all have to live with.

[brandon17]

 

I know modders have real lives and do this for us

 

Some might do it for you, I don't. I do it for me. I make the changes in the game that i want. Then i share it with the community.

 

but there are times mods need updating and not quite sure why people make mods then just ignore the obvious. Why bother then?

What times would that be? Who determines that? You? I spend my time how i choose.

 

Those who quit usually have someone take over to keep it updated.

First off I can tell you that in my 15 years of modding that that is thoroughly false. Secondly, I'm supposed to ask someone else to sacrifice their free time to update a mod in order to satisfy you? Learn to mod yourself. Stop asking others to do it.

 

I have asked questions here about how to start modding with no success.

http://wiki.tesnexus.com/index.php/Modding_guide_for_KCD first result that comes u when googling 'KCD modding guide'. There ya go.

 

Again this is not an attack just an observation so if you reply do not attack for what was said, I think most would agree with what was said here.

Sure as hell came across as one, and a petulant one at that. And i sincerely hope that others do not agree.

 

And in regards to modding being a 'closed society', yes it in some (some) ways is. Most of us are self taught, and it can be grating to have someone write a paragraph of a non-attack attack and then close it by saying that they have asked for assistance and received none. There are resources available. We are not paid teachers. But if you take those first steps and dig into it many of us, myself included, would be more than happy to provide help. But we can't open that door for you.

Edited June 6, 2019 by brandon17