Random CTD-Crash Skyrim

[RaidenHF]

Hello everyone!

 

Here's the thing, I've played Skyrim for many years and, after some time and lil' upgrades to my reaally old PC, I've decided to take another run in Oldrim, with a lot more mods that my previous gameplay.

 

But, suddenly, I'm having a lot of random CTD (as with any newbie modder)... Some of them happen in particular places, while others can happen anytime, and are not preceded by any stuter/freeze/lag/glitch. i.e. I have to take another route when I'm near any Fort, especially if there's someone fighting there (soldiers or necromages), and I don't even have any mod that changes Civil War questline or anything.

 

Other CTD's happens in certain AREAS (even "untouched" vanilla ones) and I have to completely avoid them, and that's making the game unplayable since I don't use fast travel and, when travelling from one hold to another, the game always finds some point where it will crash. These CTD also don't have any time pattern, since they can happen after 2, 10, 30 or even 60 minutes of play. I frequently use Skyrim Performance Monitor and the crashs never happen after peaks of VRAM busting the 2GB limit. All mods work correctly and I've almost had no crashes when calling any mod function (Campfire, Frostfall, TK Dodge...)

 

I take myself as a newbie in modding, but I do everything to try and keep the game stable: Mods cleaned by TES5Edit, some plugins merged in Bashed Patch and load order sorted by LOOT. All textures packs installed are either basic/light versions or 1k instead of 2k, with Optimized Textures. ENB used is Stakado Cinemascope with all performance tweaks (Skyrim configs in the launcher are Low). Up to date SKSE and FNIS. Already tried playing with only ENBooster, to no avail. Papyrus log attached.

 

Specs:

Intel i5 650 - 3.20ghz

ZOTAC GTX 750ti - 2GB VRAM

8GB RAM - 1600mhz

EVGA 450wBT - 80p Bronze

Windows 7 Professional

 

Load order (sorted by LOOT):

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Falskaar.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
Campfire.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
moonpath.esm
daymoyl.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
FunctionalHomes.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
SGHairPackBase.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
tpos_ultimate_esm.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
SKYR Interiors - Riften.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
RealisticRoomRental.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
SkyR - Windhelm Interiors.esp
Blacksmithforge water fix HF.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
SkyUI.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
Footprints.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
vImmersiveBeds.esp
iHUD.esp
Immersive NPC in the dark.esp
ImmersiveSpells.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
3DNPC.esp
JKs LITE - Towns BETA.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
FunctionalHomes.esp
RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
TES5R - AngelinesAromatics.esp
TES5R -The Bannered Mare.esp
RealShelter.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
TES5R - BitsandPieces.esp
SeaPointSettlement.esp
SkyR - Riverwood Interiors.esp
TES5R - Dragonsreach.esp
hold guard.esp
SoS - The Wilds.esp
Ebonvale.esp
SoS - Civilization.esp
OBIS.esp
TES5R - Arcadia's Cauldron.esp
Settlements Expanded.esp
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
TES5R - BelethorsGeneralGoods.esp
SoS - The Dungeons.esp
ELFX - Weathers.esp
Blacksmithforge water fix DG.esp
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
Undeath.esp
Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged - Deep Immersion.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Height Adjusted Races with True Giants.esp
Convenient Bridges.esp
JKs LITE - Cities.esp
TES5R -The Warmaidens.esp
Holidays.esp
Point The Way.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
TES5R - HouseGrayMane.esp
MVABasic.esp
more idle markers.esp
WayshrinesIFT.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
TES5R - HouseClanBattleBorn.esp
TES5R - Carlottashouse.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
TheFrontier.esp
DragonmournInn.esp
Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
Cloaks.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Combat Evolved.esp
Immersive detection of NPC.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
fallentreebridges.esp
DeadlyCombat.esp
DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
OBISDB.esp
RSChildren.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
SGHairPackAIO.esp
TES5R - Helgen Keep.esp
Syerscote.esp
TheDomain.esp
haafinheim.esp
UniqueBorderGates-All.esp
TES5R - Severioshouse.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
AdalMatar.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp
TES5R - Uthgerdshouse.esp
Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp
Hunterborn.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
Skyshards.esp
TES5R -TempleofKynareth.esp
TES5R - Amrenshouse.esp
Frostfall.esp
NonEssentialChildren.esp
SoS - The Dungeons-PatchCoTHardcore.esp
TES5R - Olavashouse.esp
AgentOfRighteousMight.esp
ScopedBows.esp
Tools of Kagrenac.esp
DarkSkyrim.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Disable Fast Travel and Expensive Carriages VAnilla.esp
TradeRoutes.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
TES5R -Ysoldashouse.esp
TES5R - Heimskrshouse.esp
EliRedguardHouse.esp
Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp
Save the Dark Brotherhood!.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul Lite.esp
daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
Blacksmithforge water fix DB.esp
Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla.esp
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
WeaponRangeFix.esp
UltimateCombat.esp
Follower Neisa.esp
Undriel_Everlight.esp
Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp
IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp
EnchantedArrowsLegendary.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp
Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
Sneak Tools.esp
MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp
Equipping Overhaul.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Public Executions.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
RND_AnimalLoot.esp
RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp
TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
ESO Breton Knight by NewrMind43.esp
Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp
[MPX] NPC Gender Race Heights +Dawnguard.esp
RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
Real Clouds.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Ultimate NPC Overhaul II.esp
Men of Winter.esp
Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp
Loadout.esp
TradeRoutes-RNaD-Patch.esp
Unique Grasses.esp
PBGearRings.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
3PCOFull.esp
Action Combat.esp
LostGrimoire.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
TrueStorms.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
redqueen2h.esp
DiverseDragonsCollection3.esp
UltimateDragons.esp
LuxNoctis.esp
mihailesocenturion.esp
CharacterMakingExtender.esp
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
Toccata.esp
College of Winterhold NPC Impovement.esp
Animations.esp
SleepTight.esp
TKDodge.esp
FNIS.esp
RSChildren_PatchHeightAdjustedRaces.esp
FNIS_PCEA2.esp
XPMSE.esp
Dynamic TimeScale.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
ELFX - Hardcore.esp
Bashed Patch, 1.esp
RSPatch.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
Immersive Music Temples.esp
Immersive Music.esp

 

 

Sorry for the awful long texts and my bad english. In advance, I thank you for your help.

 

EDIT: Forgot to tell, I use NMM.

Edited January 18, 2019 by RaidenHF

[gromulos]

not sure if you're using this, if you're not it should help a LOT, below

 

In March of 2013, Bethesda released their final patch for Skyrim. Version 1.9.32.0.8. Prior to this, Open Cities ( and some other mods ) Skyrim had little trouble operating in the available memory the game provided. In order to configure SKSE 1.7 to resolve this problem, you simply need to make sure your skse.ini file in Data/SKSE contains at least the following lines:

[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

 

If it's not there just make a blank TXT document, add the 3 lines above, and save it as SKSE.ini @ Data/skse

Edited January 18, 2019 by gromulos

[RaidenHF]

not sure if you're using this, if you're not it should help a LOT, below

 

In March of 2013, Bethesda released their final patch for Skyrim. Version 1.9.32.0.8. Prior to this, Open Cities ( and some other mods ) Skyrim had little trouble operating in the available memory the game provided. In order to configure SKSE 1.7 to resolve this problem, you simply need to make sure your skse.ini file in Data/SKSE contains at least the following lines:

 

[Memory]

DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768

ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

 

If it's not there just make a blank TXT document, add the 3 lines above, and save it as SKSE.ini @ Data/skse

 

iirc that's the SKSE Memory Patch right? I know it's already in-built in the latest SKSE version. Besides, I think I've opened the skse.ini before to see if it had these lines. Maybe I could tweak those values a little more to help?

[gromulos]

you can go up to 1024 on the top value, but NEVER touch the bottom one

[RaidenHF]

Sorry for the ignorance but, looking at my specs, is it safe to change to 1024?

[gromulos]

8GB ram, you betcha

 

that INI uses SYSTEM ram, not Video card ram

[RaidenHF]

Okay, gonna try that when I get home, and will post it here if it reduces crashing.

[RaidenHF]

Sorry for the ignorance but, looking at my specs, is it safe to change to 1024?

Just did it, and raising up to 1024 made it worse... It was fixed in 768.

 

I also tried 512, and it crashed a lot too, so it seems that 768 is the right value for me.

 

Anything on my Papyrus log?

[gromulos]

start a new character with NO mods and get to riverwood, then save

 

enable 5 mods and test the game

 

keep doing this till you get a crash, one of those 5 mods that just caused the crash is the culprit

 

finish loading all your mods 5 at a time till you have loaded all of them

 

that's my best advice

[RaidenHF]

I use NMM, so I don't have that "VirtualInstall" folder. Can I disable them all and still not mess with my current save, just for testing in a new game? Just disable the plugins?

I'll do that. It took me a lot of time to mod the game and, even after some tests, I had crashes only after 1~2 hours of gameplay (bad, but bearable).

 

I've played a little more this weekend and, after googling a lot about Papyrus and checking their logs after my CTD's, I've deactivated (MCM only, I know it's dangerous to uninstall mods mid-play) some mods and managed to run the game "ok" after I got stuck in travelling to Solitude. But then, after some time, I engaged into a fight with 4 dragons at the same time...

 

Everything was fine and nice, I even killed one of them. But then, I saved and crashed again. Now I can't even play for 15 seconds and boom. CTD again. Starting to ask if it's my graphics card SPM shows my GPU% bursting the 100% limit but the crash happen 5 seconds after that, and still, it's triggered when I attack the dragon (mainly with a bow).

 

After checking the log, I see that Papyrus was running ok, besides the flawed scripts that it always contains some errors. I mean, in the first CTD Frostfall had just been checked and the last line of the log is "Frostfall checks ok" (somethin' like that), different that the other crashes I had, where the last lines of the logs were similar between them.

 

But still, it's strange, even if I don't have a super rig, I've seen people with less powerful hardware play swiftly with lots of texture packages, 2k and all.

Edited January 21, 2019 by RaidenHF