Strange shadow in 3rd person

[theloler19]

Hi there, there's that little graphic glitch that shows up whenever I turn on 3rd person.

Basically in the area around PC's head there are what I think are darkened polygons of varying size (As seen in the photo below, but often worse).

 

Notably I don't use ENB and also I play in windowed 1200x800 mode.

 

Does anyone know what might be causing it?

 

Example:

 

 

 

Here's a load order if you need it:

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20 14 Wyrmstooth.esp
Markarth Entrance Overhaul - Enhanced Landscapes Patch [ESL].esp
T'Skyrim Riverwood - Rigmor Patch.esp
BSHeartland - Arnima Patch.esp
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BS_Campfire.esp
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RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Reach.esp
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36 24 SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp
37 25 TrueStormsSE.esp
38 26 WetandCold.esp
39 27 Skyrim Reborn - Whiterun Hold.esp
40 28 Blues Skyrim.esp
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43 2b Friendlier Taverns.esp
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46 2e ClefJ's Dragon Bridge.esp
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49 31 Markarth Entrance Overhaul.esp
50 32 Windhelm Exterior Altered.esp
51 33 Aldmeri Dominion Strengthened.esp
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Blacklight.esp
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117 75 The Lord Stone Reborn.esp
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Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

[Selfishmonkey]

Have you managed to track this down, because I've been battling this for a few days now. I have no clue what might be causing it. Thought it was Rigmor of Cyrodiil, but probably not...

[theloler19]

Have you managed to track this down, because I've been battling this for a few days now. I have no clue what might be causing it. Thought it was Rigmor of Cyrodiil, but probably not...

 

As a matter of fact I just did. Its either racemenu mod or one of the bodypaints mods that rely on it. I will need to experiment a bit more, but disabling former solved the issue.

[Selfishmonkey]

 

Have you managed to track this down, because I've been battling this for a few days now. I have no clue what might be causing it. Thought it was Rigmor of Cyrodiil, but probably not...

 

As a matter of fact I just did. Its either racemenu mod or one of the bodypaints mods that rely on it. I will need to experiment a bit more, but disabling former solved the issue.

 

Well, seems that didn't solve it for me. I also have candles and lights flickering on and off constantly (hundreds of times a minute). Those shadows flicker constantly as well, mostly in 3rd person, but reduced in 1st person. Guessing its meshes of some kind, because I can turn off my entire load order in the right pane, but they're still activited in the left pane, meaning meshes and such might still be conflicting. Can't figure which are the culprit...

[Kurotachi]

That's the strangest thing! This exact thing has been happening to me since this morning, and I haven't the slightest idea why! It just showed up out of nowhere. But what's also strange is it goes away completely if I wear a helmet. But it has to be a helmet that covers my head, circlets won't work. On top of that weird shadow the lighting turns very warm like orange unless I put a helmet on.

 

 

 

Edit: After testing around in Racemenu I found out "what" the shadow is in my case. It changes every time I change the hairstyles. It even sometimes perfectly replicates some of them. Will try completely removing them to see if it still persists.

 

Edit two: Well changing the hair removed the small shadow, but now the screen is spazing out every millisecond it seems flashing giant shadows and streaks of it all over the place... when I open racemenu the shadows look like they are on a 3 dimensional place and as I move my characters head, they stay level with the characters eyes.

[MrMarkel]

Found this information in the KS Hairdo posts:

 

Apparently a Racemenu update setting that should be disabled

 

folder: data\SKSE\Plugins

The file itself is called skee64.ini (not the .dll one)

Make sure bEnableFaceOverlays=0

 

Fixed the polygon problem and flickering for me. Hope this helps everyone also.

[Kurotachi]

Found this information in the KS Hairdo posts:

 

Apparently a Racemenu update setting that should be disabled

 

folder: data\SKSE\Plugins

 

The file itself is called skee64.ini (not the .dll one)

 

Make sure bEnableFaceOverlays=0

 

Fixed the polygon problem and flickering for me. Hope this helps everyone also.

 

This fixed my problem, thank you so much! I've been going at this for the past 3 hours trying to resolve it!

[theloler19]

Found this information in the KS Hairdo posts:

 

Apparently a Racemenu update setting that should be disabled

 

folder: data\SKSE\Plugins

 

The file itself is called skee64.ini (not the .dll one)

 

Make sure bEnableFaceOverlays=0

 

Fixed the polygon problem and flickering for me. Hope this helps everyone also.

Yup, its fixed now. Thanks a lot!

[Gabbagul]

Fixed! Thanks very much MrMarkel!

[CerberusElric]

Thank you so much :smile: I searched the last 1,5h for a solution and your way worked ^^ again, thank you so much and have a great day :wink:

Edited February 22, 2019 by CerberusElric