ilovemymurat Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 It worked before now it will not work.I hate this because It was playing to great and nice, then I installed 'better cities' and all hell broke loose.I reinstalled oblivion and installed the mods I had origionally.Now it CTD upon loading screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidus44 Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Couple of things. Doesn't sound like a Load Order issue. Download and install BOSS (http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/20516) for load order changes. First thing to try is, try deleting (back it up to a separate directory) the .INI file in the Games directory (usually C:\"Your Username"\My Games\Oblivion) and restart the game from the Launcher (not OBSE or other start file). A new .INI will be created. If the game doesn't start, then it may be a mod conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakirev Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 For future reference, uninstalling Oblivion solves nothing, unless your problem was textures/meshes that have been overwritten--and in that case, I'm assuming you would have done a backup before installing a texture/mesh replacer, correct? A utility like Wrye Bash can help you when it comes to locating at least a few problems with load order, and it be easily used to temporarily uncheck some mods and help narrow down the culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovemymurat Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 I appriciate that, but boss screwed it up big time last time I used it to 'fix' my load order. Never again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovemymurat Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 I dont know how to use these things. :(I didnt back up everything no, am I screwed? This will be the 5th time at reinstalling everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanceor Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 yeah thanks to whomever told me to move oblivion ini, now I cant put it back. It says to 'replace it' but I have actually tried and failed.what now? 'ugh --**** * ** **** **** **** ** ****"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' The game will regenerate oblivion.ini for you if it's deleted. If you're getting CTDs, the best bet is to uninstall mods a couple at a time until the CTDs stop. All BOSS does is change a text file that determines you load order. If you're not happy with the way that BOSS has arranged certain items, you can use another mod manager to change the load order. The vast majority of the time, BOSS gets the load order right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovemymurat Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 yeah thanks to whomever told me to move oblivion ini, now I cant put it back. It says to 'replace it' but I have actually tried and failed.what now? 'ugh --**** * ** **** **** **** ** ****"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' The game will regenerate oblivion.ini for you if it's deleted. If you're getting CTDs, the best bet is to uninstall mods a couple at a time until the CTDs stop. All BOSS does is change a text file that determines you load order. If you're not happy with the way that BOSS has arranged certain items, you can use another mod manager to change the load order. The vast majority of the time, BOSS gets the load order right. it didnt regenerate. D:so, now OBMM wont open anymore too. becuas eof this unregenerating OBLIVION DEFAULT. I seemed to delete. ( was told to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 BOSS is not perfect. But it is the best thing we have for setting load order. The instructions for BOSS say you may have to set some mods after running BOSS. Then there is a function to keep those you do change in the order you chose instead of where BOSS wants to put them. Also, ther is a function in OBMM that lists all mods that were installed in their load order for each save IF you were running OBMM when you made that save. It sounds like you may have deleted the Oblivion_Default.ini - which is NEEDED to regenerate the Oblivion.ini. The default runs once the first time you start the game and it's purpose is to generate the other Oblivion.ini, which is loaded every time the game starts. If The game cannot find the Oblivion.ini in the proper place, it then runs the Oblivion_Default.ini to create it again. To do this, start the game from the original Oblivion launcher and not from OBMM or any other program that has it's own launcher. The one that should be deleted is in the \users\yourusername\My documents\my games\Oblivion - which is the one that is auto generated on starting the game. When you get it back, be sure to make a backup copy. :thumbsup: If you have a backup copy - COPY it, do not use move to put it back into the proper folder. That way you keep the backup safe. To get that Oblivion_default.ini back you will have to reinstall the game :rolleyes: If you do not delete anything before reinstalling, the reinstall will not touch your mods. If you are worried about losing anything, Here is a link to my complete uninstall/reinstall procedure located in the WIKI section of the Nexushttp://wiki.tesnexus.com/index.php/Oblivion_reinstall_procedure It allows you to preserve any saves and mods, or remove them completely - your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovemymurat Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 thank you. I will try :( But I suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakirev Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 No you don't. :) But getting this kind of thing right can be a hassle for people unfamiliar with it. We all were in your boat, at one time. If you run Wrye Bash and BOSS places mods after WB's Bashed Patch, it means BOSS doesn't know those mods. It hasn't received any reports on their placement. I'd suggest looking in the long descriptions for each of these mods here on Nexus for ideas where they should go. And frankly, some mods are just incompatible with others. Better Cities, which caused you these problems, has a line clearly stating in its description that it would be wise to check the official thread for incompatibilities. Anything that complex is going to change a lot of things, and it's a good idea to take the developer's advice. Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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