Lag Spikes, but good fps

[Lymber]

So my PC can run an Ultra Modded Fallout 4 at least I think, but I am still getting a serious lag spike especially in the city and it really kicks me out of the game. I was wondering if anyone was willing to help me or has had this problem as well. Any help will be appreciated!

Specs:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Graphics Card

Intel® Core i7-9700k Processor

 

CAN I EVEN RUN AN ULTRA MODDED FALLOUT 4?

 

Load Order:

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 DLCUltraHighResolution.esm
8 8 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
9 9 ArmorKeywords.esm
10 a HUDFramework.esm
11 b NAC.esm
12 c FCOM.esm
254 FE 0 BerettaM9FS.esl
13 d Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - AiO.esp
254 FE 1 CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp
254 FE 2 CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp
14 e NoVanillaRadiantDLCLocations.esp
15 f Armorsmith Extended.esp
16 10 Raider Children.esp
17 11 Killable Children.esp
18 12 Orphans.esp
19 13 ehtyeci_MPX.esp
20 14 X01Light.esp
21 15 CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
22 16 CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
23 17 CROSS_Cybernetics.esp
24 18 dD-Enhanced Blood.esp
25 19 dD - Small Splatter Size.esp
26 1a dD-Realistic Ragdoll Force.esp
27 1b NAC-AE Patch.esp
28 1c EAMR.esp
29 1d Facials.esp
30 1e Power_Armors_Redone.esp
31 1f The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
32 20 RobotFactionPaint.esp
33 21 PlutoniumCreatures.esp
34 22 Quad_Accelerator.esp
35 23 McMillanCS5.esp
36 24 MP-412.esp
37 25 The Deadly Commonwealth Expansion.esp
38 26 SIKOutcastPaintjobPlatform.esp
39 27 Tec-9.esp
40 28 BerettaM9FS.esp
41 29 G36Complex.esp
42 2a AK74M.esp
43 2b CheatTerminal.esp
44 2c InstitutePowerArmor.esp
45 2d MTs255.esp
46 2e Vivid Waters.esp
47 2f BullpupBozar.esp
48 30 HaxRPG7.esp
49 31 Mercenary.esp
50 32 ABundleofTape.esp
51 33 TEEParty.esp
52 34 TEEPartyDLC.esp
53 35 HuntingShotgun.esp
54 36 EnclaveX02.esp
55 37 WestTekTacticalOptics.esp
56 38 Crimsomrider's Accessories.esp
57 39 Far West Minutemen.esp
58 3a FCOM FW MM.esp
59 3b Mercenary_TexEdits.esp
60 3c Live Dismemberment - Mental.esp
61 3d Live Dismemberment - Mind-Blowing.esp
62 3e Live Dismemberment - POSTAL.esp
63 3f Live Dismemberment - Brutal.esp
64 40 Live Dismemberment - Insane-o.esp
65 41 Live Dismemberment - Liebermode.esp
66 42 Live Dismemberment - Regular.esp
67 43 Cross_Patch-ExpeditionarySuit.esp
68 44 Cross_Patch-CourserSuit.esp
69 45 Faster Terminal Displays (20x).esp
70 46 Brotherhood of Steel Kit.esp
71 47 Consistent Power Armor Overhaul.esp
72 48 Brotherhood Power Armor Overhaul.esp
73 49 FALLOUT4WT.esp
74 4a PAMAP.esp
75 4b Spec Ops Paint Job.esp
76 4c NAC-FarHarbor.esp
77 4d NAC-NukaWorld.esp
78 4e DOOMMerged.esp
79 4f F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp
80 50 FO4 NPCs Travel.esp
81 51 DOOMGlock.esp
82 52 Grasslands - Healthy - Extreme.esp
83 53 CommonwealthConifersREDUX.esp
84 54 GunnerFaceVariety.esp
85 55 RaiderFaceVariety_2.0.esp
86 56 TrapperFaceVariety.esp
87 57 Guards.esp
88 58 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
89 59 StartMeUp.esp

[jones177]

Hi

 

Use Fallout 4 Performance Monitor to see what your hardware is doing. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1762

 

I use it because it monitors i/o along with GPU and CPU.

 

CPU. I use a i7 8700k and a i7 8086k to play the game. I rarely have CPU drops but when I used a i7 6700k I had CPU drops all the time.

Your CPU has high IPC so you should not drop below 60fps because of it. If you do it most likely a mod causing it.

Your usage should be around 12.5% or less most of the time.

 

GPU. My game becomes rough if my GPU hits 100% usage. This happens a lot at 4k with a RTX 2080 ti and not at all at 1440p. When I used a GTX 1080(=2070) on a 3440 X 1440 monitor the game was not smooth on high level saves. It could not handle the built up settlements and the higher NPC counts. Upgrading to a GTX 1080 ti(=2080) fixed it. Make sure your GPU is not hitting 100%.

 

I/O. The reads as I move around in my high level games can be double of what a 7200rpm HD can handle. This causes pauses and stutter.

My SATA SSDs only have issues with my level 70 or higher characters with slight pauses approaching built up settlements. To get rid of these pauses I think it will take a 970 EVO M.2. A bit costly for one game.

I also had to update the bios on my MX300 Crucial SSDs before they could handle the i/o spikes in my game. I had to use these lines in the fallout4.ini as well.

 

[General]
sLanguage=en
uGridsToLoad=5
uInterior Cell Buffer=12
uExterior Cell Buffer=144
bDisableAllGore=0
iPreloadSizeLimit=262144000

 

Save game bloat can cause pauses and stutter as well. When it happened to me the save got over 100mbs before I noticed.

 

I don't see any mods that cause performance issues in your load list. Usually it is mods like "Scrap Everything".

 

Even though it is not an issue with me, full screen mode can cause performance issues.

 

Later

[Sephrajin]

All what already has been said by jones.

 

 

(please bear with me for possible non-accurate-terminology)

 

AFAIK it's a known issue that within the/a city it *could* create lags despite good fps, in many games.

And that c/would be caused by the 'close by Towers' full of enemies, or just plain memory swap (view angle, RAM to disk ; disk to RAM)

 

But since you have an i7 9700, I assume you'll have more than 8gb ram as well, which therefor shouldnt cause this issue.

 

 

However…..

Certain ENB's may cause lag at certain Areas, though, usualy also with a FPS drop…

I'm using one where I have Drops in Fort Hagen (kinda strange imo, FPS Drops down to 25), and in Far Harbor (more obvious, due to all the fog, Drops from 60 to 45-55 fps, but more lags than fort hagen).

[Lymber]

Thank you for the responses! I am fine now I managed to fix the issue.

It was the "Real HD Face Textures 2K" mod. I guess the game had to load the textures of the characters faces every time I came within loading distance of one.

Or it was conflicting with the "Facials for Everyone" mod that I also had installed at the time.

Thanks for your help!

Edited March 6, 2019 by Lymber