PCGamer5 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I was thinking, say, Ulfric were to win the Civil War and repel the Aldmeri Dominion out of Skyrim with the help of the Dragonborn, say, he were to live another score of years without a family and pass away. Who would the moot declare to be his likely successor? Someone said Elisif would be the most possible choice since surrendering under Ulfric means he might indirectly make Elisif into a ruler on behalf of Skyrim. ***END LIKELY SPOILERS*** Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzburg Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 The Dragonborn or Galmar. If we presume you have to be a Jarl to be High King, then it might be whoever is next in line in Windhelm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordanLoL Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 If there is no direct heir then a moot has to be called. From there the Jarls vote to determine who they support as High King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraeten Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I'd imagine Thongvor Silver-Blood would take Ulfric's place, assuming you must be a Jarl to be eligible for the Throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzburg Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Of course there could be another civil war lol. On a similiar note, if Ulfric prevailed in Skyrim would he seek to subjugate the former Imperial provinces and set himself up as ruler of the next incarnation of the Empire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukeban Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I would hope it would be the Dragonborn. Moot or no Moot, I'd say that they have the best claim to leading Skyrim, no matter their provenance or past. It's also highly convenient that the Dragonborn would be in a position to press his/her claim, since they have already essentially won the Civil War for one side or another. Whenever I complete the CW questline for the Stormcloaks, I RP that Ulfric will eventually challenge the Dragonborn as a threat to his power, and that, when that time comes, the Dragonborn will oust him and take his place as the de facto monarch. I'm not really that down with monarchy, however. The Dragonborn (and any ruler) should be declared fit to rule based on their deeds and actions rather than their "birthright." As such, the Dragonborn has the greatest claim to leadership, but after the time of the Dragonborn, leadership should be another jump ball between qualified candidates, likely between the Dragonborn's closest friends and companions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdark Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Actually coudln't the dragon born claim the throne based on the fact that he can wield the voice and that the emperor could do so too? At least that's what I assume. I'm not too familiar with TES lore so if I made a really big mistake with my assumption I can only say one thing.... WOOPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettM Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Actually coudln't the dragon born claim the throne based on the fact that he can wield the voice and that the emperor could do so too?The situation has changed. In the three previous imperial dynasties (established by Alessia, Reman Cyrodiil, and Tiber Septim), the ruler HAD to be dragonborn to keep the Covenant of Akatosh. Only a dragonborn could wear the Amulet of Kings and light the Dragonfires that kept the doors of Oblivion closed. However, when Martin Septim was transformed into the avatar of Akatosh to end the Oblivion Crisis, the Amulet of Kings was destroyed and the Covenant of Akatosh was ended. There is now a permanent mystical barrier between Mundus and the Daedric Realms that prevents the Princes from invading, so there is no longer any need for the Amulet, the Dragonfires, or an emperor with dragon blood. Being dragonborn does not give a special claim on the imperial throne now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdark Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Actually coudln't the dragon born claim the throne based on the fact that he can wield the voice and that the emperor could do so too?The situation has changed. In the three previous imperial dynasties (established by Alessia, Reman Cyrodiil, and Tiber Septim), the ruler HAD to be dragonborn to keep the Covenant of Akatosh. Only a dragonborn could wear the Amulet of Kings and light the Dragonfires that kept the doors of Oblivion closed. However, when Martin Septim was transformed into the avatar of Akatosh to end the Oblivion Crisis, the Amulet of Kings was destroyed and the Covenant of Akatosh was ended. There is now a permanent mystical barrier between Mundus and the Daedric Realms that prevents the Princes from invading, so there is no longer any need for the Amulet, the Dragonfires, or an emperor with dragon blood. Being dragonborn does not give a special claim on the imperial throne now. Huh. Well that sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzburg Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 I doubt thats true. Alessia, Reman Cyrodiil and Tiber Septim did not inherit the empire, they won it. The Dragonborn is an immensely powerful force, with the defeat of Alduin and the barrier preventing the Daedra from crossing, there is no force in Tamriel to stop him/her from ruling!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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