Help choosing new parts

[KaosLosstarot]

Hi guys, I need to upgrade my PC but it's been a while since the last time I built one so I don't know what parts are better at the present date...

 

For now my doubts focus around the Motherboard and the CPU. I was thinking the socket 2011 would be a better choice but I'm not sure. If that this is the case what about the Asus Sabertooth X79 and the Intel core i7-3820? I plan to use it with 8Gb of RAM and I have no interest in overclocking. The performance/price rate is ok? Or is better to stay on the older 1155 socket? If yes what Mobo and CPU?

 

I know a lot of questions but please I need suggestions :)

[hoofhearted4]

go with Socket 1155 and get the 3570(k). even if you have no interest in OCing, id still get the k version, just in case you ever do. only like $20 more i think....but yea, the 2011 Socket are more expensive and no need to get those unless you A) have the money to spend and/or B) want more cores if you are going to be doing CPU intensive stuff and/or C) want to OC.

[Erik005]

The sabertooth motherboards are just about looks the are not better than asus' regular boards

[dragonslayer2k12]

I built a sandybridge system earlier this year for someone and it ran just fine was very fast. The 3xxx series processors have that cheap rubber stuff under the TIM to hold it down instead of soldering so it causes some problems with cooling because the TIM doesn't sit completely flat over the cores and one of them will get hotter than the others. Found a video on youtube for it the other day forgot to bookmark it but this guy popped the TIM off his 3xxx processor and cleaned off the rubber mess then used something else in place of it to keep it flat and secure. After that he posted cooling results to show it was working right compared to the beginning of his video where one of the cores was 99c!

 

Sandy bridge processors don't have the cheap TIM they use soldering so you never have to do this with sandybridge. You get a new 3xxx chip and you run the risk of getting uneven TIM and hot temps/bad cpu eventually. Don't even think about overclocking because the results are terrible and temps are horrible to manage if you get a bad chip but sandy again doesn't have this problem. From what I read socket 2011 is only slightly faster anyway and the memory difference will only be felt if you do huge amounts of 3d rendering or some other activity that will eat up 32gb or more of ram? Maybe photoshop but if you overclock it crashes photoshop anyway lol.

 

Get a gigabyte board stay away from asus for the rest of this year. I think they have some bad batches of stuff for a while now. Other forums out there are full of people complaining about asus boards and bad rma experiences with them. I used to have an asus board and the main benefit I noticed is they boot faster than gigabyte boards by a few seconds for the POST stuff not talking about booting windows just the POST stuff before windows loads. I have been running an X58A-OC gigabyte board for a year now with no problems. Running at 4ghz on a core i7 960 and 12gb of ram at 1600mhz thought I might slow down the memory to stop photoshop from crashing so much since X58 suffers from memory speed issues when overclocking.

[hoofhearted4]

the new IV processors get hotter faster because they are such a small nm. you can still OC them. but he has no interest in OCing, so it wont be an issue anyways. so might as well get the faster stock chip, which is the 3570(k).

 

as for mobo, i highly recommend ASRock. the z77 Extreme4 is very cheap, has everything you need, and is made by the same company that makes Asus's boards, so you know its good quality.

[Erik005]

The heat problems of ivy bridge only show when you overclock very high.

 

On stock speeds or with a small overclock they preform better than sandy bridge and use less power.

 

The asrock motherboard is simply the best value for money.

[dragonslayer2k12]

Actually asrock split off from asus and they are now a separate company. Never did like them because they were too busy putting obsolete ports on every motherboard they made like floppy and ide ports that nobody needs anymore.

 

I will see if I can find that youtube video it was really informative.

[hoofhearted4]

Actually asrock split off from asus and they are now a separate company. Never did like them because they were too busy putting obsolete ports on every motherboard they made like floppy and ide ports that nobody needs anymore.

 

I will see if I can find that youtube video it was really informative.

 

but the mobos are still made by Pegatron, which makes Asus boards too.

[kalikka]

Ivy (3570k) Can be easily OC'd to 4,5ghz. Got 2 rigs, other running at 4,5ghz and the other 4,4ghz. Max temps are ~80C in prime95 tests (90C is the limit for safe 24/7 clocks).

And im not using overkill cooling like silver arrow or noctua. Only using Kühler H2O 620 with push/pull which is as good as HR-02 Macho.

 

Asrock was junk years ago, now its one of the best.

 

EDIT: I feel like I spend way too much time reading PC/OC forums and articles...

Edited August 17, 2012 by kalikka

[FMod]

the new IV processors get hotter faster because they are such a small nm. you can still OC them.

To be more precise it's because soldered chip-lid interface on SB was replaced by thermal paste on IB, to save cost. Any thermal paste is in a league below solder, and factory-applied especially so.

 

As for boards: Asus has a small edge in firmware, so you can squeeze about 100-150 MHz more out of a CPU on Asus boards. If you aren't squeezing, AsRock Extreme4 is easily good enough up to about 5 GHz; most CPU will only do about 4.5.