New PC.. What GPU/CPU?

[Aminados]

Hi all!!

I'm someone who has modded skyrim a lot years ago and i'm currently wanting to build a new PC. I've been away for a while so I don't actually know what kind of PC it takes to currently run skyrim SE fully modded with enb and those lovely grass mods at 1080p60fps everywhere.. And yes I mean even around Riften and Falkreth.

I was thinking of a 9400f/9600k with maybe gtx1070/1080???? Would this be to much or too little? I'm trying to save money where I can.

If someone has a clue I would appreciate the help, thanks!!

 

Edit: 1070/1080 seem to be out of stock everywhere in my country.. so i would have to get one used or instead 1660ti/rtx2060/rtx2070 ??

Edited April 21, 2019 by Aminados

[HeyYou]

I am a big fan of overkill, so, if you can afford the 1080, go for it. (minimum 4gb vram please, more is better, too much is just enough.) :D

[ZeroKing]

GTX 1080 is better than the GTX 1070 (and prices are pretty good if you look around), though I'd try to go with the RTX 2070 if pricing is close to the GTX 1080.

[Aminados]

I get what you guys are saying but I'm trying to spend just as much as I need for 60fps I don't really need anything over that.. So if a 1070 word be enough I would take it... Even 1060 if it gets the jobdone ð

 

What about CPU??

Edited April 20, 2019 by Aminados

[fftfan]

GTX 1080 is great for 1440p, or 4K if you do not mod the game heavily/don't use ENB. 1080ti extra power will probably go unused unless you play on 4K or 1440p G-sync for above 60fps(can be difficult due to physics being tied to FPS).

I get what you guys are saying but I'm trying to spend just as much as I need for 60fps I don't really need anything over that.. So if a 1070 word be enough I would take it... Even 1060 if it gets the jobdone ð

What about CPU??

Depends on what resolution. Judging from this(i5 3570k / GTX 660 Ti 3GB / ASUS P8Z77-V / 8GB RAM / 4TB HDD's ) I figure 1080p or possibly lower. If 1080p, you can possibly get away with GTX 1060 6GB( Don't get the 3GB! ). It will do the job unless you are heavily modding the game's visuals & also running ENB. But it also matters if there are other games you want to play. 1060 will start to fall behind a bit on newer games, it will still work but you'll have to set to medium or maybe low when PS5 is out & games are tuned for it. It may end up being below minimum spec for games tuned for PS5 when PS4/X1 are no longer supported. PS5 is expected for end of 2020, games will probably be cross gen for the most part through to the end of 2021. Rumors are varied but it seems likely that PS5 will be 1070 or 1080 level with a Zen2 CPU. PS5 is supposed to be "up to 4K@60fps" though IMO likely will end up being 4K@30fps with drops or 1080p@60fps with better visuals. If other games/future games matter to you then I would suggest going for 1080 if you can or 1070, 1080 should be about par with PS5 at least. The biggest game on the way is Cyberpunk 2077, I feel sure it will set the standard for graphics similar to how Witcher 3 did so there is one strong reason to go a bit higher tier. An RTX 2070 might be worth considering if you are also looking forward to Cyberpunk.

 

I would probably suggest i5-9600k. 9400f seems to be fairly close to i7-7700 locked(9400f is 6 core but this game engine doesn't appear to scale with higher core count). For me i7-7700 mostly works but in order to get reliable 60fps have to reduce shadows & shadow distance. If you want cheaper than 9600k I'd suggest considering a Ryzen.

 

At any rate you will definitely want to get an SSD & 16GB RAM. For Skyrim & Fallout 4, the games just become unplayable when 50% or more of the time in game are loading screens.

I am a big fan of overkill, so, if you can afford the 1080, go for it. (minimum 4gb vram please, more is better, too much is just enough.) :D

Same. It will certainly be enough unless you are going for 4K heavily modded plus ENB. 4GB VRAM does seem to be the minimum unless you don't plan to install any texture/outfit/weapon mods & just keeping the game stock. From what I hear you pretty much have to keep them very much in check, will want to keep an eye on VRAM usage with a program like MSI Afterburner. 6GB seems like a standard amount for an average mod user who will want some weapon/armor mods and some texture mods. If you like to go overboard then definitely want 8GB or maybe even 11GB, if you want to use every high quality 4K texture replacer you can find and also xLODGen/TexGen/DyndoLOD.

[Aminados]

The actual resolution will be 1920x1200.

 

That PC on my sig is what I used to have, I sold it long ago now I'm building another.

 

As for mods.. I'm the kind of person to spends hours fiddling with the game until it has hundreds of mods running stable. I'm talking highest resolution textures I can get for everything... npcs, armors, interiors, exteriors... even that cabbage or that jar, high density grass, high end ENB, more and bigger trees, flora, weather and lightning mods, high quality LODs, npc spawn mods etc... I'm talking pretty maxed out modded skyrim, that's what i'm looking for.

 

I know for a fact that 4gb vram wont be enough because if it wasn't enough years ago... it wont be enough now, currently i'm thinking around 8GB vram?? . At that time i was running 660 ti sli and 3570k with 4.5 OC and I would get areas where cpu would bottleneck around 40fps and others where gpu would bottleneck... and I don't want that.. I want 60fps MINIMUM EVERYWHERE.

 

As for the 9400f you would be amazed how little fps difference there is between this and the 9600k on current gen games, however, on skyrim I don't know as in the end it's a very cpu focused game. The only game I can compare it to is Ac as it's also a very cpu demanding game and there is an almost 10fps between both 60fps-70fps.

 

As for other games.... meeeeh only 1 other another... It's skyrim that I play for hundreds of hours, so I would build a pc primarly for it.

 

Edit: 1070/1080 seem to be out of stock everywhere in my country.. so I would have to get one used or instead 1660ti/rtx2060/rtx2070 ??

 

 

 

Edited April 21, 2019 by Aminados

[fftfan]

The actual resolution will be 1920x1200.

 

 

That PC on my sig is what I used to have, I sold it long ago now I'm building another.

 

As for mods.. I'm the kind of person to spends hours fiddling with the game until it has hundreds of mods running stable. I'm talking highest resolution textures I can get for everything... npcs, armors, interiors, exteriors... even that cabbage or that jar, high density grass, high end ENB, more and bigger trees, flora, weather and lightning mods, high quality LODs, npc spawn mods etc... I'm talking pretty maxed out modded skyrim, that's what i'm looking for.

 

I know for a fact that 4gb vram wont be enough because if it wasn't enough years ago... it wont be enough now, currently i'm thinking around 8GB vram?? . At that time i was running 660 ti sli and 3570k with 4.5 OC and I would get areas where cpu would bottleneck around 40fps and others where gpu would bottleneck... and I don't want that.. I want 60fps MINIMUM EVERYWHERE.

 

As for the 9400f you would be amazed how little fps difference there is between this and the 9600k on current gen games, however, on skyrim I don't know as in the end it's a very cpu focused game. The only game I can compare it to is Ac as it's also a very cpu demanding game and there is an almost 10fps between both 60fps-70fps.

 

As for other games.... meeeeh only 1 other another... It's skyrim that I play for hundreds of hours, so I would build a pc primarly for it.

 

 

Edit: 1070/1080 seem to be out of stock everywhere in my country.. so I would have to get one used or instead 1660ti/rtx2060/rtx2070 ??

It's very CPU dependent, largely because of Shadows being handled exclusively by the CPU. Other games handle them on the GPU and it shows. They can have shadows with more complexity, much further range and with nowhere near as much impact on performance. Outside of these games there is little reason to go for 9600k over 9400f, it's just that Skyrim/Fallout 4 depends heavily on single core performance. You might need a better CPU than those perhaps for all the bells & whistles. For my own build I just chose a CPU that will do everything, can handle very high FPS like G-sync up to 144hz(Fallout/Skyrim can't have FPS that high though because of engine limitations/Physics), ready for upcoming games like Cyberpunk 2077, can do videos & 3D applications. I went with i9-9900k. I only care about Skyrim SE, Fallout 4, Cyberpunk 2077. Some others too but they're much easier to run anyways.

 

Based on what you said, I would choose RTX 2070 for the sake of getting 8GB VRAM. I haven't played so much Skyrim but on Fallout 4 you can easily use up to 8GB or even run out sometimes if using every highest resolution texture pack you can get plus high quality new outfit/weapon mods. The other 2 should be generally adequate but based on what you said you may be similar to me in terms of mod preferences and easily use 8GB.

[Caradilis]

I've got an AMD Ryzen 5/ Radeon Vega 8 Laptop (Yeah, shoot me, I game on my portable computer... :tongue:) So far it handled skyrim special edition graphics well, so I think that qualifies as doing the job, but if you're willing to dish out more money than I was or don't restrict yourself to a laptop, as I did, you an check out this link (https://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.13849.0.html)... I found that one quite helpful, as it shows you how well you can play which game with which graphics card... :)

[Moksha8088]

The RTX 2070 at Newegg seems to be the sweet spot for price and performance.

[Mudbass10187]

I run the game on a Ryzen7 2700x and a AMD Strix 1070ti @1080p (1920x1080). The vanilla game runs beautifully with all the graphics set on ultra even running an ENB and lots of texture mods. My CPU and GPU are overclocked moderately, but I wanted stability so I didn't go nuts with the overclocking. The only time I notice any frame rate loss is on some custom mods (dungeons, adventures, quests, etc) but even then it's acceptable and I only get a momentary stutter. The same old axiom applies here that has always applied when building a new computer...buy the best you can afford to buy. All that being said, if gaming is the only thing the computer will be used for then I'd probably go with an Intel processor. Intel still has the edge in single core performance and since the gaming industry has yet to take advantage of multi-core processing on any significant scale Intel is still your best bet for gaming in my opinion.

Edited April 29, 2019 by Mudbass10187