New to Modding(loving it, though having issues)

[omnitom1]

Hi Guys,

 

I am new to the modding scene, been a console gamer most my life and recently started PC gaming... and well Skyrim was what sucked me in for the plunge due to the amazing mods.

 

Anyways, I am using vortex and LOOT... I seem to have some issues where peoples faces are incredibly dark compared to their bodies(not everyone, only some) and after installing a few recent mods, my games load and the some of the mods dont lose causing all sorts of graphical issues to my main character.

 

I have about 260 mods currently running. I have sarcasonct and better vampires installed...Sarcosanct vampires is prior in load order which I know causes issues, though I cant seem to change the load order and if I set user rules to load after Better vampires etc, my skyrim wont launch(just endlessly loads)

 

Please let me know what information you need and how I can alleviate some of these issues I am experiencing.

 

I appreciate the help.

 

Thanks,

[foxd33]

Sounds like you are talking about what is called "black-face bug." For me this has always been a mod/load order problem, that is easily fixed. Probably need to post your mod/load order for anyone to help you. A screenshot of the problem would also help verify that this is in fact the problem you are having.

Edited May 1, 2019 by foxd33

[omnitom1]

This is my load order that I copied from LOOT(I assume it would match up with Vortex);

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

7 7 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

8 8 EFFCore.esm

9 9 RaceCompatibility.esm

10 a Falskaar.esm

11 b Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm

12 c TravellersOfSkyrim.esm

13 d ApachiiHair.esm

14 e FM - UCM Interior.esm

15 f FlowerGirls SE.esm

254 FE 0 Pampas Set.esl

16 10 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

17 11 ELFX - Exteriors.esp

18 12 EmbersHD.esp

19 13 SkyUI_SE.esp

20 14 Ducks and Swans.esp

254 FE 1 Qw_DucksAndSwans_USSEP Patch.esp

21 15 Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp

22 16 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp

23 17 Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp

24 18 S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp

25 19 Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp

26 1a Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

27 1b Immersive Wenches.esp

28 1c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

29 1d Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

254 FE 2 Qw_ISC_USSEP Patch.esp

30 1e UNP Vanilla Outfits.esp

31 1f dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

32 20 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp

33 21 1nivWICCloaks.esp

34 22 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

35 23 Daedric Chainmail - CBBE(SSE)Bodyslide.esp

36 24 FNISSexyMove.esp

37 25 RLO - Interiors.esp

38 26 JKs Skyrim.esp

39 27 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp

40 28 SkyrimUnleveled.esp

41 29 Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp

42 2a RLO - Exteriors.esp

43 2b WICO - Immersive People.esp

44 2c SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp

45 2d Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp

46 2e BHTNFX.esp

47 2f skyBirds_SSE.esp

48 30 BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp

49 31 Skyrim Better Roads - The Rift.esp

50 32 Ambriel.esp

51 33 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

52 34 Skyrim Better Roads - EastMarch.esp

53 35 MarriageModSE.esp

54 36 Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp

55 37 OpulentOutfits_2017-SSE AIO.esp

56 38 Tes Arena NorthKeep.esp

57 39 Tes Pagran Village.esp

58 3a Aurlyn.esp

59 3b SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp

60 3c Tes Arena Nimalten.esp

61 3d BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp

62 3e Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp

63 3f Cloaks.esp

64 40 Inigo.esp

65 41 Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp

66 42 AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp

67 43 Skyrim Better Roads - Winterhold.esp

68 44 TES Arena Amol.esp

69 45 Tes Vernim Wood.esp

70 46 TES DunstadGrove.esp

71 47 Tes Granite Hall.esp

72 48 True Bat Form Remade.esp

73 49 SlowTimeSpells.esp

74 4a Cinematic Dragon Soul Absorbtion.esp

75 4b Unlimited Training.esp

76 4c True Scholar.esp

77 4d mcgFemaleWalk for SkyrimSE.esp

78 4e Torch Brightness Radius.esp

79 4f VampireSun.esp

80 50 Skysan_Stalhrim.esp

81 51 Sabrina.esp

82 52 SamuraiGear.esp

254 FE 3 Smoking Torches And Candles ESPFE.esp

254 FE 4 Smoking Torches And Candles.esp

83 53 FNIS.esp

84 54 DarkSisterhood.esp

85 55 Apophysis_DPM_SE.esp

86 56 BVFE.esp

87 57 Backshields.esp

88 58 ClimatesOfTamriel-Falskaar.esp

89 59 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp

90 5a DustEffectsSSE.esp

91 5b EBT - IC PATCH.esp

92 5c Facelight.esp

93 5d Footprints.esp

94 5e InigoPerkPointGiver.esp

95 5f KS Hairdo's.esp

96 60 LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp

97 61 RLO - Effects.esp

98 62 RaceMenu.esp

99 63 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

100 64 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp

101 65 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp

102 66 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

103 67 TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp

104 68 Tribunal Robes for SSE.esp

105 69 Vivid WeathersSE.esp

106 6a Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp

107 6b Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp

108 6c Vivid Weathers SE - LightingDuringStorm Patch.esp

109 6d mintylightningmod.esp

110 6e Better Females - Eyebrows.esp

111 6f Hott Interesting NPCs.esp

112 70 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp

113 71 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

114 72 SexyVest.esp

115 73 SGEyebrows.esp

116 74 SOSRaceMenu.esp

117 75 XPMSE.esp

118 76 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_JoP_Patch.esp

119 77 RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp

120 78 beltfastenedquivers.esp

121 79 Book of UUNP - Textures.esp

122 7a Perfect Legionnaire - Troops Re-equipment.esp

123 7b 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp

124 7c Aasimar Race.esp

125 7d UIExtensions.esp

126 7e AddItemMenuSE.esp

127 7f AnotherVampireLeatherArmor.esp

128 80 Beards.esp

129 81 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

130 82 DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp

131 83 EbonyValkyrie.esp

132 84 Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp

133 85 Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp

134 86 halfdragonrace.esp

135 87 LazyBodyEdit.esp

136 88 LazyCBP.esp

137 89 Nier Automata.esp

138 8a RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

139 8b Redguard Noble Armor.esp

140 8c Runandwalkpaces.esp

141 8d ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp

142 8e SubsurfaceScatteringShader.esp

143 8f TavernGames.esp

144 90 TERAArmorsSSE.esp

145 91 TheCleaner.esp

146 92 WICO - Immersive Character.esp

147 93 WICO - Wild Hunt Gears.esp

148 94 Real Flying.esp

149 95 WetandCold.esp

150 96 MidnightBreed.esp

151 97 RaceMenuHH.esp

152 98 yurica_chevaleresse_II [HDT].esp

153 99 SkinTight Dragon Wear.esp

154 9a RohPoses.esp

155 9b EmbersHD - RLO Patch.esp

156 9c CBBE.esp

157 9d Dr_Bandolier.esp

158 9e TravellersOfSkyrim - Bags and Pouches Addon.esp

159 9f SofiaFollower.esp

160 a0 SkystoneCastle.esp

161 a1 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

162 a2 Black Mage Armor SE.esp

163 a3 DCR_KingCrusaderMegaPack_SSE.esp

164 a4 Volkihar Knight.esp

165 a5 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp

166 a6 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp

167 a7 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

254 FE 5 Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_USSEP Patch.esp

168 a8 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp

169 a9 AwpSylvanas.esp

170 aa DagiRaht.esp

171 ab DoubleBedsSkyStoneCastlePatch.esp

172 ac Kate Follower.esp

173 ad Luna_GoV.esp

174 ae Merta Assassin Armor.esp

175 af P1FlyingRing.esp

176 b0 Radzig - Johnskyrim.esp

177 b1 SkystoneCastleGSPatch.esp

178 b2 WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp

179 b3 RohZima_AnimObjects.esp

180 b4 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

181 b5 Immersive Weapons.esp

182 b6 DaedraHuntress.esp

183 b7 RoyalDaedric.esp

184 b8 No Edge Glow - Magic and Transformations.esp

185 b9 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp

186 ba Recorder Follower Base.esp

254 FE 6 Qw_SofiaFollower_USSEP Patch.esp

187 bb Magical Trainer.esp

188 bc Racial Body Morphs - Extreme Morphs.esp

189 bd The Ordinary Women.esp

190 be Jormundandr Dragon.esp

191 bf FM - UCM Merchants.esp

192 c0 FM - UCM Xterior.esp

193 c1 armored-horses.esp

194 c2 DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp

195 c3 WICO-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp

196 c4 Bijin Warmaidens.esp

197 c5 HothFollower.esp

198 c6 FlyDrag.esp

199 c7 Vampirelordroyal.esp

200 c8 pikapet.esp

201 c9 Shindara.esp

202 ca VampireLordPerksExpanded.esp

203 cb Nemain.esp

204 cc Miri_Follower.esp

205 cd Sorbi.esp

206 ce FNISspells.esp

207 cf BVLT - Human.esp

208 d0 SkyDreamMaidens.esp

209 d1 BlackSacramentArmor.esp

210 d2 My Home Is Your Home.esp

211 d3 DragonLordSwords.esp

212 d4 Kynreeve Armor.esp

213 d5 ValkyrieSwordShield.esp

214 d6 LustmordVampireArmor.esp

215 d7 Daedric Reaper Armor.esp

216 d8 Nightingale Prime remaster.esp

217 d9 SkyrimSizesLore.esp

218 da Skyrim Sizes.esp

219 db Jinxxed Followers - Yoruichi.esp

220 dc Bijin_Frea-Iona.esp

221 dd Bijin Wives.esp

222 de Bijin NPCs.esp

223 df Dark Envoy.esp

224 e0 FNISFlyer.esp

225 e1 HothFollower UFO Patch.esp

226 e2 MUPF.esp

227 e3 MUPF_Craft.esp

228 e4 Public Executions.esp

229 e5 ShindaraHeelsOutfit.esp

230 e6 TES5SE NPCs Travel.esp

231 e7 TW3Weaponry.esp

232 e8 Unique Uniques.esp

233 e9 USSEP-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp

234 ea Warhammer Sorceress Robes.esp

235 eb DBCO_ALL_IN_ONE.esp

236 ec XN_Horora.esp

237 ed Dragon Lilly.esp

238 ee Vampiric Knight.esp

239 ef Tamaria.esp

240 f0 VimuneFollower.esp

241 f1 Better Vampires.esp

242 f2 SuperbSerana.esp

243 f3 S3DRocks.esp

244 f4 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

254 FE 7 Qw_Imperious_SkyrimSizesLore Patch.esp

245 f5 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

246 f6 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp

247 f7 Apocalypse - Cheat Chests.esp

248 f8 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

249 f9 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp

250 fa BVandSacrosanct_Patch.esp

251 fb BVandRoyalBloodline_Patch.esp

252 fc Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

253 fd Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp

254 fe J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp

Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp

Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

254 FE 8 Qw_SofiaFollower_RDO Patch.esp

EFFDialogue.esp

Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp

Wildcat-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp

CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp

Immersive Citizens - TC patch.esp

ICOW_WICO_Patch.esp

Open Cities Skyrim.esp

CWIOCSSEPatch.esp

ELFXEnhancer.esp

Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

254 FE 9 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp

Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

[foxd33]

Okay, normally it has to do with ordering of npc overhaul mods. You use some of the same ones I do but not all of them. I use Mod Organizer2 and not Vortex, so I'm not sure exactly how to explain everything.

 

I don't know all npc mods in existence, but I do see Bijinn, Immersive Wenches, and WICO.

 

The order of those particular mods should probably look something like this (Ignore the ones that don't apply):

https://imgur.com/a/yZ9NS

 

Both the mod order and plugin/esp order should be the same also.

 

After that, any specific npc/follower mods like the one you have for Serana, should go below those.

 

Sometimes you'll see a problem with those specific npc mods in-game, like maybe they're wearing the wrong outfit. Usually all you have to do to fix those specific npcs is:

 

go in first person

open console

click on npc

type: disable

hit enter

type: enable

hit enter

 

NPC should reappear corrected.

 

I have had exactly 1 CTD after doing this though (during Forgotten City Quest mod), so I just reloaded my game and left that one npc alone, otherwise it has worked.

[omnitom1]

I made the changes as shown... and started using MO2... My game launched once, crashed and now... it just loads endlessly at the logo screen.... any ideas? Would you ever be interested in sharing my screen to advise?

[foxd33]

I made the changes as shown... and started using MO2... My game launched once, crashed and now... it just loads endlessly at the logo screen.... any ideas? Would you ever be interested in sharing my screen to advise?

 

I couldn't help you with something I can't pinpoint via experience. There's too many ways for the game to CTD - it took me months and months to find the causes of various problems for my own game.

 

I've had so many problems on the road to a stable Skyrim, I can't even begin to think of all the ways the game used to crash/freeze, endless load, etc. But I do know blackface for me has been caused

 

by the ordering of mods like Bijinn, Diversity Overhaul, Better Females, War Tats, RS Children, Immersive Wenches.

 

I can say that your endless load is not because of the ordering of those particular mods, but something else.

 

If you're new to modding, I'd recommend follow a guide and sort of inserting/replacing mods in the section of the guide to your liking. That's basically what I did. You'll have to be very careful about

 

compatibility with the mods you decide to add/replace.

 

 

One of the guides I followed was:

http://www.predcaliber.com/skyrimsetut

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqD0_psVyuyhgd-nr_qdX7N5NQZPPSGkO

 

Following a guide also helps, because it includes things you might forget or are not even aware of, like SKSE engines fixes, or cleaning master files, and whatever else.

Edited May 3, 2019 by foxd33

[omnitom1]

I went ahead and deleted everything - I will be trying everything over. Thank you again for the help