Cant Fix Mod Order- Help Plz. )-:

[BladeRunin]

I'm so very sorry to ask for help on this darn load order issue I'm having but I'm at my wits end on this. I have spent over a week trying to get this correct even after researching this issue by reading and watching guides. I have even tried using Loot but that actually makes things worse so after trying to do this on my own I have come to the point where I need somebodies help on this. Could you experts anybody who knows please tell me what load order I should use for the mods I have now? Also I'm open to any help on how to figure this out for my self in the future as well.

I would like to offer a suggestion if I may please. I think this might make this whole load order thing work much better for those of use that cant seem to understand this stuff. I think it would be awesome if there was a place where you people that like to make mods could post your mod in a special thread where ALL modders could list their mod in a preset category that would show where their mod fits in the proper load order. So for instance the list could be category #1(mods that must be first in the load order) and then to #2, #3, #4.....on down to the last load order. I dont know how this could be made up but it might need to be accessible only to those that make mods to add or edit their mods in the list and it would need to be something that people like my self could look up and read. A "warning" about possible & or known conflicts with other mods be added with a link to that mod for the details. It could be named "Load Order For Dummies". Modders would be asked(not expected) to list their mod in the "Load Order For Dummies" before they put their mod up for download . I realize that this may be asking a lot or may not be possible but this would be a dream come true! Also, they would not need to give any details about the mod in this list but only place it in the proper category for load order. I feel that this list would really be helpful and could take out at least some if not all of the confusion for a proper load order.

 

Thnx for any and all help you guys can offer me and I hope my idea might be helpful or at least give some ideas on how this issue might be made better. You guys have my complete respect and my deepest gratitude for all the hard work and dedication you all do to make Fallout 4 even better! :thumbsup:

 

Here is my current load order: SPOILER ALERT

 

 

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 DLCUltraHighResolution.esm
8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm
9 9 HUDFramework.esm
10 a ConcealedArmor.esm
254 FE 0 Fog Remover II (AIO) Recommended.esp
11 b Brawl Bug Fix.esp
12 c NukaVimRack.esp
13 d PlantMe.esp
14 e NoLollygagging.esp
15 f ModdableRobotSettlers.esp
16 10 SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp
17 11 ScrappableLegendaries.esp
18 12 Scrapper Corpse Highlighting - DLCRobots Fixes.esp
19 13 BetterSettlers.esp
20 14 BetterSettlersHeavyArmorOnly.esp
21 15 BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp
22 16 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
23 17 BrighterSettlementLights_ExtraBrightv1.1.esp
24 18 Brighter Mirror Ball Light (Disco Ball).esp
25 19 BuildingGroundFix.esp
26 1a LongerPowerLines3x.esp
27 1b Quieter Settlements - Vanilla.esp
28 1c Quieter Settlements - Contraptions.esp
29 1d Quieter Settlements - Wasteland Workshop.esp
30 1e Farm.esp
31 1f PlaceInRedStandalone.esp
32 20 Companion Infinite Ammo.esp
33 21 ClearWeatherOnly.esp
34 22 Sneak Rank 5 Perk - Subtle Effect.esp
35 23 No Aggro Impact Landing.esp
36 24 MoreAGOMBz.esp
37 25 Decal Stain Remover REDUX - All DLC.esp
38 26 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
39 27 200%pipboy.esp
40 28 200%NoShadows.esp
41 29 VendorCaps.esp
42 2a Still Waters Complete.esp
43 2b Headlight.esp
44 2c More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
45 2d MoreSpawns_High.esp
46 2e Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
47 2f Conquest.esp
48 30 Loot Detector.esp
49 31 recon.esp
50 32 The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
51 33 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
52 34 The Eyes of Beauty Looking Stranger.esp
53 35 DrunkenGnomes_Gnomepocolypse.esp
54 36 BTInteriors_Project.esp
55 37 ConcealedArmor.esp
56 38 UltimateBallisticWeave.esp
57 39 Vault88ballisticweave.esp
58 3a Armorsmith Extended.esp
59 3b Personal Jetpack.esp
60 3c LegendaryModification.esp
61 3d Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
62 3e Explosives_AWKCR.esp
63 3f LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp
64 40 LegendaryModification2LM.esp
65 41 LegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.esp
66 42 HAAS.esp
67 43 HAAS - Automatron.esp
68 44 LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp
69 45 LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor (2LM).esp
70 46 LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor (2LM Concealed).esp
71 47 LegendaryModificationMisc.esp
72 48 LegendaryModificationCSA.esp
73 49 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
74 4a Farm_CP_ScrapEverything_UE.esp

Edited May 10, 2019 by BladeRunin

[Sangeki]

What is the actual problem you're having?

 

As far as load order is concerned, it all comes down to how mods actually work. Mods overwrite or add new records and then it depends on if you have multiple mods that change the same record. The one with priority in the load order will be the mod that actually gets their change into the game.

The only way to get a proper load order is to use FO4Edit to check for conflicts between your mods and to resolve them through means of a merged patch or simple reordering of your LO where appropriate. Knowledge on what some of the records actually do is certainly helpful.

LOOT is a good start and offers some benefits but it obviously can't resolve conflicts for you.

 

More complex mod setups are unfortunately not nearly as plug-and-play as some people seem to think.

Edited May 8, 2019 by Sangeki

[SirTwist]

Loot is okay. However, with my set up, I get problems using loot to sort my load order. That aside, BladeRunin, I would like to make a request, and ask a couple questions, if I may. The request is next time to please place your load order under the spoiler tags. Start with [ spoiler ] and end with [ /spoiler ]. Hopefully that shows up when I post, and I will edit if it does work.

 

Now, my questions, what mod manager are you using? Second, have you downloaded Loot, and run it? You should run a search, if need be, for Loot, and download it from github.

 

One thing you may want to do is go over every mod, and read the descriptions, again, and see where in the load order it should be placed.

 

One method of altering load order, aside from Loot is to go into your mod manager, note where it set up profile information, etc., then go there. In there, look for something like LoadOrder.txt. Make a copy of it. Then carefully edit it. I mean carefully edit the original. However, that is only after you tried with Loot.

[BladeRunin]

Sorry for not responding right away. Been busy trying to mess with load order & improving FPS. First off I would like to say thank you Sangeki for your advice and I will look into that asap.

Now @ SirTiswt thank you as well. Not sure how my load order was a spoiler but I hope I did as you asked and I do apologize for not knowing that.

 

SirTwist: Now, my questions, what mod manager are you using?

I use NMM.

 

SirTwist: Second, have you downloaded Loot, and run it?

 

Yes, I have & it misplaced some of the mods. How ever, I will go and run it again to see what mods it puts out of proper load order by running the game to see what ones that are not working or not working as they should.

Edited May 10, 2019 by BladeRunin

[BladeRunin]

I ran Loot yesterday and it found several dirty mods so then I ran FO4Edit quick clean option to fix those mods. I ran Loot again and everything was good but I'm still having issues with load order. I will try to work on it more but it gets to be a bit a bit frustrating when I spend much more time trying to get the mods to instead of actually playing the game. I have thought about just uninstalling everything and starting over but only running a few mods at a time and then add more but only one at a time to see what happens with each mod as I install them though NMM. I love the mods for FO4 because they make it way better then vanilla to the point that I could never play FO4 without them but getting them to play nice with one another is no small undertaking. I wish that ALL mods could be put into its own load order slot. Load order slot #1 would have ALL the mods that must go into that load order slot and on down to the last slot that way I could look up the mod I want and see what load order slot it belongs in and then make sure its in the proper slot in NMM. This would be a dream come true. Again, thanks guys for the help and I will continue to figure this all out. :confused:

[BladeRunin]

Just an update. I completely uninstalled FO4 and all my mods including other programs that managed game and the mods. I even when though windows and deleted all folders of anything that had to do with FO4 as well. I wanted to start over and hope that I can nip this issue in the butt before it even shows its ugly face. I have learned a lot so I will use that from the get go. ~crosses fingers~ :confused: