Consistent CTD when entering Dragonsreach.

[bazuso220]

Exactly like the titles says. I've been playing through a new save with Alternate Start - Live Another Life for a while with what I thought was a fully functional load order. I hadn't had any issues save 2 freezes. I decided to finally start the main quest and when I try to enter Dragonsreach, the game crashes. This is my first time entering Dragonsreach on this save. I also made a save to test this glitch out and tried to coc into Dragonsreach. Same results, consistent CTD.

 

Here is my load order:

 

00 Skyrim.esm

01 Update.esm

02 Dawnguard.esm

03 HearthFires.esm

04 Dragonborn.esm

05 RSkyrimChildren.esm

06 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

07 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp [Version 4.1.7]

08 BSAssets.esm

09 BSHeartland.esm

0A BS_DLC_patch.esp

0B AHZmoreHUDInventory.esl [Version 1.0.12]

0C Campfire.esm

0D SleepToGainExperience.esl

0E Better_Male_Presets.esp

0F Laundry.esp

10 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

11 Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp

12 SkyUI_SE.esp

13 S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp

14 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

15 TrueStormsSE.esp

16 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

17 iNeed.esp

18 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

19 iNeed - Extended.esp

1A MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

1B MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp

1C 3DNPC.esp [Version 3.4.2]

1D Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 3.1.2]

1E Obsidian Weathers.esp

1F Book Covers Skyrim.esp

20 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

21 Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp

22 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

23 Qw_BookCoversSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp

24 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

25 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

26 Qw_DeadlySpellImpacts_ISC Patch.esp

27 Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp

28 Mortal Enemies - No RunWalk Changes.esp

29 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp [Version 1.4a]

2A Qw_WACCF_ISC Patch.esp

2B WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp

2C Qw_ACE_CRF Patch.esp

2D AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

2E Darker Nights for Obsidian Weathers.esp

2F RaceMenu.esp

30 XPMSE.esp

31 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

32 iHUD.esp

33 LessIntrusiveHUD.esp

34 AHZmoreHUD.esp [Version 3.6.2]

35 VWA_VanillaWarpaintsAbsolution.esp

36 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp

37 RLO - Interiors.esp

38 RealisticRoomRental.esp

39 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

3A NewMerge.esp

3B Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

3C Coins of Tamriel V2 SSE Edition.esp

3D MiscWorldEdits.esp

3E IcePenguinWorldMap.esp

3F DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp

40 SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp

41 Obsidian_TS_Patch_Spectral.esp

42 SoS_TrueStorms_Patch.esp

43 Obsidian_TS_SoS_Patch.esp

44 WondersofWeather.esp

45 GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp

46 FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp

47 NewArmoury.esp

48 manny_eyeglasses.esp

49 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

4A CollegeApplication.esp

4B CampsandCheckpoints.esp

4C Blues Skyrim.esp

4D Helgen Reborn.esp [Version 106]

4E RLO - Exteriors.esp

4F Morrowloot.esp

50 Undriel_QuaintRavenRock.esp

51 OBIS SE.esp

52 Hunting in Skyrim.esp

53 TimingIsEverything.esp

54 BetterDocks-MP-DLC-Compatible.esp

55 Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp

56 LightweightCreatures.esp

57 cliffs.esp

58 morthal.esp

59 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

5A AI Overhaul.esp

5B OwnCivilWar.esp

5C Elemental Destruction.esp

5D ScarcityMerged.esp

5E Immersive Weapons.esp

5F Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp

60 Guards Armor Replacer - WACCF Patch.esp

61 WACCF_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

62 Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.8]

63 WACCF Unique Uniques Patch.esp

64 Common Clothes and Armors.esp [Version 1.1.0]

65 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

66 Common Clothes and Armors - ACE Patch.esp

67 Common Clothes and Armors - CRF Patch.esp

68 SOS_RLOInteriors_Patch.esp

69 AK- Namira for Good Guys.esp

6A UsefulDogs.esp

6B RSChildren.esp [Version 1.2.0.]

6C Patch - RLO - Blues Skyrim.esp

6D Footprints.esp

6E SimplyKnock.esp

6F CombatSurrender.esp

70 SleepTight.esp

71 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp

72 Realistic Capacity.esp

73 CobbEncumbrance.esp

74 Backshields.esp

75 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

76 Sea of Spirits.esp

77 ZimmsImmersiveArtifacts.esp

78 TheChoiceIsYours.esp

79 Inconsequential NPCs.esp

7A reflection-levelupmessages.esp

7B TavernGames.esp

7C WayshrinesIFT.esp

7D CFTO.esp

7E JK's Riverwood.esp [Version 1.3d]

7F WendigoFactionSkillRequirements.esp

80 TSR_TeldrynSerious.esp

81 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 4.0]

82 SlavePackRiekling.esp

83 Cloaks.esp

84 Inigo.esp

85 CWICRFSEPatch.esp

86 Hunterborn.esp

87 Hunterborn - iNeed Patch.esp

88 Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp

89 Afterlife.esp

8A SkyTEST-RealisticAnimalsBehaviors_LightVersion.esp

8B UniqueBorderGates-All.esp

8C Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp

8D Immersive Horses.esp

8E RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp

8F Immersive Patrols II.esp

90 Skyshards.esp [Version 2.0.4]

91 Frostfall.esp

92 AmorousAdventures.esp

93 Better Vampires.esp

94 RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp

95 Bells of Skyrim.esp

96 Bells of Skyrim - Alternate Solitude.esp

97 Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp

98 RLO - CRF Patch.esp

99 Tools of Kagrenac.esp

9A Animallica.esp

9B Savage Wolves - Feral Foxesx.esp

9C HelgenReborn+CFTO.esp

9D ForgottenCity.esp

9E ktWeaponPackSE.esp

9F Qw_S3DTrees_CRF Patch.esp

A0 NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp

A1 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 2.0.1]

A2 InnoLostAlt.esp

A3 TOK_CWI_Patch.esp

A4 CaesiaFollower.esp

A5 SL99Exchanger.esp

A6 Vampirelordroyal.esp

A7 Aymarandfriends.esp

A8 LoreWeaponsRelics.esp

A9 Bells of Skyrim - Dawn of Skyrim DC Patch.esp

AA Equipping Overhaul.esp

AB OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp

AC ClassicClasses.esp

AD CCB_AndromedaPatch.esp

AE wizDynamicThings.esp

AF WetandCold.esp

B0 Immersive Speechcraft.esp

B1 Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp

B2 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

B3 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

B4 Faction Crossbows.esp

B5 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp

B6 Guards Armor Replacer - Cloaks of Skyrim Patch.esp

B7 Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp

++ Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp

B8 Dr_Bandolier.esp

B9 DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp

BA WayshrinesIFTBSBruma.esp

BB True Scholar.esp

BC FantasySountrackProjectMerged.esp

BD SoS_Obsidian_Patch.esp

BE Animations.esp

BF FNIS.esp

C0 FNIS_PCEA2.esp

C1 Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp [Version 1.35]

C2 MoonlightTalesMCM.esp

C3 UltimateCombat.esp

C4 TKDodge.esp

C5 NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp

C6 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp

C7 VioLens SE.esp [Version 2.2]

C8 OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp

C9 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp

CA Simply Stronger Dragons.esp

CB honedmetal.esp

CC LootandDegradation.esp

CD ImmersiveSeptimRewards - Medium.esp

CE ReducedFavorRewards.esp

CF Bounty Gold.esp [Version 1.0]

D0 Order My Items.esp

D1 Trade & Barter.esp

D2 SL99Exchanger_Patch_Coins of Tamriel V2 SSE Edition.esp

D3 SL99Exchanger_Patch_GoldIngot250.esp

D4 DynamicPotions.esp [Version 3.21]

D5 ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp

D6 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - Immersive Horses Patch.esp

D7 Obsidian_TS_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp

D8 Animated Immersive Weaps.esp

D9 TCIY_BCS Patch.esp

DA BCS_NotsoFast_Patch.esp

DB Qw_ACE_BSHeartland Patch.esp

DC Qw_ACE_CloaksOfSkyrim Patch.esp

DD Qw_AIOverhaul_CRF Patch.esp

DE Qw_BarenziahQuestMarkers_USSEP Patch.esp

DF RSC 3DNPC Patch.esp

E0 RSC CRF Patch.esp

E1 RSC Forgotten City Patch.esp

E2 RSC HR Patch.esp

E3 RSC IncNPC.esp

E4 RSC MoonAndStar Patch.esp

E5 PCHeadTracking.esp

E6 ABT - Merge.esp

++ ABT SE - Faster Arrows Improved.esp

++ ABT SE - Faster Bolts Improved.esp

++ ABT SE - Loot Ammo.esp

++ ABT SE - Progressive Damage.esp

++ ABT SE - Renamed Bolts.esp

E7 ASIS-Dependency.esp

E8 EyesandBeards.esp

E9 AFT - 3DNPC Patch.esp

EA Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

EB Imperious - Compatibility Patch.esp

EC Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

ED CWIOrdinatorPatchSSE.esp

EE Lock_Overhaul.esp

EF Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp

F0 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp

F1 Elemental Destruction - Ordinator Patch.esp

F2 Ordinator_WACCF_Patch.esp

F3 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 4.0.9]

F4 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp

F5 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

F6 RealisticWaterTwo - Needs Mod Patch.esp

F7 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

F8 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

F9 WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp

FA Bashed Patch, 0.esp

FB ASIS.esp

I do have some merged ESPs to save on plugin space but they're mostly misc things like skin textures, immersive laundry, or small world edits like man those borders. Nothing I think would cause these crashes (ESPs marked with ++ are disabled probably because they're part of a merge). LOOT hasn't detected any mod conflicts. I haven't cleaned my plugins, would that make a difference? I'm really lost here and any help would be appreciated. I just want to get back to playing my game.

Edited May 10, 2019 by bazuso220

[Zombie1Boy]

1. Don't see any mods that add followers to Dragonsreach. So its not that. Don't remember if 3DNPC adds NPCs/follwers into Dragonsreach or not.

 

2. I see you use a Bashpatch. So it probably has nothing to do with incorrect levellists or w/e for those NPCs in Dragonsreach.

 

3. Only thing I see right now is 10 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Do you use SE or Oldrim?

[bazuso220]

1. Don't see any mods that add followers to Dragonsreach. So its not that. Don't remember if 3DNPC adds NPCs/follwers into Dragonsreach or not.

 

2. I see you use a Bashpatch. So it probably has nothing to do with incorrect levellists or w/e for those NPCs in Dragonsreach.

 

3. Only thing I see right now is 10 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Do you use SE or Oldrim?

I use SE, sorry I should have mentioned that. Also, I think 3DNPC adds an npc to the dragonsreach dungeons but not dragonsreach proper. I can enter the dungeons though.

Edited May 10, 2019 by bazuso220