Hearthfire - Opposing views

[El`derina]

...i won't pay for such small addition,looking at the price tag of full game,i guess the new house building addition is worth as much as....Windhelm?

 

(Sarcasm)NAW! Worth as much as Windhelm,... surely you give it too much credit! worth as much as one or two homes within Windhelm, most likely.(/sarcasm)

 

>.> It really should have been released for 50 cents,.. I think that's somewhat agree'able? lol

 

Although judging by the polls... majority of people are looking forward to this DLC. I can't really blame them, it does look nice, but I just can't help but compare it with it's ACTUAL value, and it's lack of really, anything worth mentioning.

 

So, are most people just activilly ignoring these things in favor of what it 'represents' over what it actually is? Or maybe people just like forking out money for minor changes? or maybe everyone simply has more faith than I do that Hearthfire is more than it appears >.> (doubtful)

And I find it hard to agree with those that say it adds a taste of what mods are for PC's... it's nothing like it. Thats like saying the regular homes that were already there give a taste of what mods are like >.> only in the most vague sense.

idk,.. im overly critical of this DLC, I know.

Edited August 30, 2012 by El`derina

[Illiad86]

Don't like it. Not for what it is, but for what it represents: increased emphasis placed on console gamers, at the expense of PC gamers. And we're all just going along with it.

 

People who play Skyrim on PC don't need Hearthfire; 90% of the content it adds is fluff that many of us have modded into our games already. It adds a couple of new features (because clearly baking bread is a higher priority than resolving the Thalmor storyline), but by and large it doesn't add anything we haven't seen before. Despite it being essentially redundant, a huge percentage of PC gamers will shell out the $5 for it, to get at those one or two new features, and because "it's so cheap!". So Bethesda makes millions off of PC players for something that probably cost them a few thousand bucks to build, and is primarily intended for console gamers.

 

Console gamers, of course, will welcome the DLC. Finally, they think, finally, we get to experience Skyrim the way the PC players do. Well, yeah, sort of, but if you really want to experience the game at its fullest potential, why on Earth would you choose to play it on a console? These days, a home computer is as common as a toaster. If your computer can't run Skyrim, then why not sell the X-Box and invest in more RAM or a better processor?

 

So, once again, we have a fabulous game and a great franchise, hamstrung by the need to pander to the lowest common denominator. Same story as the horrible vanilla UI, or the extra month or so we had to wait for Dawnguard, or the continuing emphasis of cosmetics over content. As someone who's been playing TES games since Daggerfall, all I can do is shake my head sadly, and watch something beautiful slowly decay.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself. I've been playing TES games since Daggerfall as well, so hard to see something so great become so hand holding and generic. Bethesda is one of the last major game companies I buy from...with the way it's going, they are going to lose a very loyal customer.

 

They should just focus on fixing the game. Seems like every quest is broken one way or another. Fix what's wrong with the stock game first, then release DLCs.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Illiad86

[xaliqen]

Bethesda was part of the industry trend in releasing lame DLC (come on, who doesn't remember the horse armor?).

 

BUT, they really learned their lesson and released possibly some of the greatest DLC for any game ever (Shivering Isles and most of the Fallout 3 DLC).

 

Based on the Skyrim DLC so far, maybe it's time Bethesda learned another lesson.

 

Problem: Too many people are going to buy this, so Bethesda won't learn a lesson this time.

 

Result: We're going to have to learn to live with some bad DLC from Bethesda.

 

I suggest everyone wait for a Steam sale if they want to pick this up.

Edited August 31, 2012 by xaliqen

[Lachdonin]

Based on the Skyrim DLC so far, maybe it's time Bethesda learned another lesson.

 

 

I have something of a problem with this. Why? Because this is the second piece of DLC from Bethesda for Skyrim. The first was Dawnguard, which despite some glitches (so i hear, for me Skyrim isn't even close to as glitchy as people have been saying it is) Contains not one, but two large zones, a dozen new interiours, 2 new perk trees, new weapons, armour, etc. It is easily on the same level as Knights of the Nine, if not Shivering Isles (i tend to lean more towards saying the latter).

 

Ranged kill-cams, mounted combat, horse armour... These were the type of things which, in Oblivion, we would have had to pay for as micro DLC content. We got them for free.

 

As of yet, we have no idea how in depth the construction and furnishing will be, what new 'quests' will be associated with it or, really, anything beyond the basic concept of the Hearthfire DLC. I fail to see how you can make even the slightest statement, with an conviction, about the poor quality of Skyrim DLC up until now.

[xaliqen]

 

I have something of a problem with this. Why? Because this is the second piece of DLC from Bethesda for Skyrim. The first was Dawnguard, which despite some glitches (so i hear, for me Skyrim isn't even close to as glitchy as people have been saying it is) Contains not one, but two large zones, a dozen new interiours, 2 new perk trees, new weapons, armour, etc. It is easily on the same level as Knights of the Nine, if not Shivering Isles (i tend to lean more towards saying the latter).

 

Ranged kill-cams, mounted combat, horse armour... These were the type of things which, in Oblivion, we would have had to pay for as micro DLC content. We got them for free.

 

As of yet, we have no idea how in depth the construction and furnishing will be, what new 'quests' will be associated with it or, really, anything beyond the basic concept of the Hearthfire DLC. I fail to see how you can make even the slightest statement, with an conviction, about the poor quality of Skyrim DLC up until now.

 

Well, you can disagree with me. It's just my opinion, after all, and it wouldn't be the end of the world if we disagree.

 

I enjoy Dawnguard a great deal, but I definitely believe it pales in comparison to the Shivering Isles. Dawnguard does include two new somewhat interesting areas, as for whether I'll revisit either of them, I highly doubt it. I appreciate this content, but it doesn't set a bar for excellent content the way Shivering Isles did with plot, setting and gameplay fusing together into a unique expansive experience above and beyond what the original game had to offer. It doesn't strike me as worth the price of two normal DLC add-ons and seems far from the full expansion that Shivering Isles offered. I enjoyed it, as I said, but I also don't think it measures up to Bethesda's best efforts.

Edited August 31, 2012 by xaliqen

[Lachdonin]

Well, regardless of whether you think Dawnguard is on par with Shivering Isles, you still can't compare it to the absolute crap-shoot of micro DLC we got for the vast majority of Oblivion. That would be like comparing a gekko to a tyranosaur. Bethesda has a long way to fall in terms of DLC before we relive those rather embarassing days.

[xaliqen]

It won't be too long before it's been a year after the original game was released. Usually, that's around when Bethesda stops working on DLC for their games.

 

So, I can't help but wonder if we're really going to get major add-ons for Skyrim at this point. I'm guessing we're all hoping for a major add-on before Bethesda stops working on Skyrim DLC.

 

We'll probably find out soon enough.

Edited August 31, 2012 by xaliqen

[lolozori]

my major complain is that this dlc could have been included in dawnguard allready... It doesn t seem to take much place coz it look like just a script with only few new anim. Also it seem that beth just use this week jam trial to make new dlc. Next one will probably be about spears, goblins and giuant mudcrabs.

 

Why are they making us wait so long for dlc when in fact they allready done them all in one week?

[Deleted4547977User]

maybe because Beth's strategy?

I hope spears is included in next patch, and season change please... I'm bored when see South area of Skyrim is never change (I want snowy area for Riverwood)

[shadow56]

My personal opinion, I don't need it. Have no interest in building my own home and if I did would use the mod already available on Nexus to do it instead of paying for this one. I would much rather see new DLC that added another 10 to 20 hours of game play to Skyrim like Dawnguard did.