mememachine69 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 After redownloading Open Cities Skyrim for the same savegame (in other words, I downloaded it, uninstalled it, and reinstalled it) my game now crashes directly after i enter or exit buildings in cities (I haven't tried it anywhere else besides Riften, I assume its applicable to all cities, though), also my game crashes on random when i fast travel. is there a solution to this without starting a new game? Thanks! My PC info:Processor/CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Six-Core Processor (12 CPUs, ~3.4 GHZ)Graphics Card: Radeon RX 580About 22.1 GB free space in the C: drive1.17 TB free space in the D: driveThe game is located in my D: drive, along with all my mods Game info:Latest version of the game, all DLCsI'm using Vortex, as well as TES5edit and LOOT (none of them say that there's any problem with my mods)Latest version of SKSE My load order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 BSAssets.esm 7 7 BSHeartland.esm 8 8 TESV - MiddleEarth.esm 9 9 RSkyrimChildren.esm 10 a Campfire.esm 11 b ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 12 c moonpath.esm 13 d HighResTexturePack01.esp 14 e HighResTexturePack02.esp 15 f HighResTexturePack03.esp 16 10 TouringCarriages.esp 17 11 WetandCold.esp 18 12 AOS.esp 19 13 3DNPC.esp 20 14 SoS - The Wilds.esp 21 15 SoS - Civilization.esp 22 16 OBIS.esp 23 17 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 24 18 OwnCivilWar.esp 25 19 Wild World.esp 26 1a SMIM-Merged-All.esp 27 1b Dwarfsphere.esp 28 1c Afterlife.esp 29 1d dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 30 1e AOS2_EBT Patch.esp 31 1f AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp 32 20 Run For Your Lives.esp 33 21 Cloaks.esp 34 22 Inigo.esp 35 23 WindstadMine.esp 36 24 moonpath_questdata.esp 37 25 Immersive Patrols II.esp 38 26 Frostfall.esp 39 27 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 40 28 Tools of Kagrenac.esp 41 29 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 42 2a The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 43 2b PaladinArtifactsAndArmor.esp 44 2c Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 45 2d BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 46 2e BSHeartland - Meshes.esp 47 2f BSHeartland - Textures.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 48 30 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 49 31 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 50 32 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 51 33 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp 52 34 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp 53 35 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 54 36 Dr_Bandolier.esp 55 37 Draw!!.esp 56 38 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 57 39 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 58 3a Purewaters.esp 59 3b RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp 60 3c RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp 61 3d RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp RND_USKP-Patch.esp 62 3e RSChildren.esp 63 3f SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp 64 40 SkyUI.esp 65 41 Duel - Combat Realism.esp 66 42 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 67 43 Open Cities Skyrim.esp 68 44 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Again thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saurusmaximus Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Eck, I smell a corrupted savegame...I'm guessing you are too far in to go back to a save before you unistalled OC the first time? Why did you uninstall it? Was your game performing ok with it installed the first time? Obviously, the first thing to try is to start a new game (strictly for testing) and see if things work as they should. If they do, about the only thing you can try is a savegame script cleaner; I've used this one in the past, but there are others. Just be sure to make a backup of your save before using. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mememachine69 Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Eck, I smell a corrupted savegame...I'm guessing you are too far in to go back to a save before you unistalled OC the first time? Why did you uninstall it? Was your game performing ok with it installed the first time? Obviously, the first thing to try is to start a new game (strictly for testing) and see if things work as they should. If they do, about the only thing you can try is a savegame script cleaner; I've used this one in the past, but there are others. Just be sure to make a backup of your save before using. Good luck!Hello and thanks! My game ran fine with it, it was because I was experiencing some trouble (CDT's) going near the Whiterun area (whenever i approached the city, or near and within the city), i read a bit online and thought that it was either immersive citizens or open cities, so i disabled both (probably a bad decision to do that without any proper testing, but I live and learn), fortunately, i could reliably go near whiterun again, unfortunately, many of the NPCs (Bersi Honey-Hand being in Riften, but only when i exited the city) and scripted events (Brynyolf being stuck in the bee and barb) being glitched, so, i reinstalled Open Cities, which did fix the NPC issue, but it started this one. TL;DR I ran open cities, game crashes, i uninstalled it, game glitched, I reinstalled it, game crashes I might have a manual savegame i can go back to, but due to the progress between that point and now, ill try the script cleaner. Again, thank you so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mememachine69 Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) After redownloading Open Cities Skyrim for the same savegame (in other words, I downloaded it, uninstalled it, and reinstalled it) my game now crashes directly after i enter or exit buildings in cities (I haven't tried it anywhere else besides Riften, I assume its applicable to all cities, though), also my game crashes on random when i fast travel. is there a solution to this without starting a new game? Thanks! My PC info:Processor/CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Six-Core Processor (12 CPUs, ~3.4 GHZ)Graphics Card: Radeon RX 580About 22.1 GB free space in the C: drive1.17 TB free space in the D: driveThe game is located in my D: drive, along with all my mods Game info:Latest version of the game, all DLCsI'm using Vortex, as well as TES5edit and LOOT (none of them say that there's any problem with my mods)Latest version of SKSE My load order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 BSAssets.esm 7 7 BSHeartland.esm 8 8 TESV - MiddleEarth.esm 9 9 RSkyrimChildren.esm 10 a Campfire.esm 11 b ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 12 c moonpath.esm 13 d HighResTexturePack01.esp 14 e HighResTexturePack02.esp 15 f HighResTexturePack03.esp 16 10 TouringCarriages.esp 17 11 WetandCold.esp 18 12 AOS.esp 19 13 3DNPC.esp 20 14 SoS - The Wilds.esp 21 15 SoS - Civilization.esp 22 16 OBIS.esp 23 17 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 24 18 OwnCivilWar.esp 25 19 Wild World.esp 26 1a SMIM-Merged-All.esp 27 1b Dwarfsphere.esp 28 1c Afterlife.esp 29 1d dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 30 1e AOS2_EBT Patch.esp 31 1f AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp 32 20 Run For Your Lives.esp 33 21 Cloaks.esp 34 22 Inigo.esp 35 23 WindstadMine.esp 36 24 moonpath_questdata.esp 37 25 Immersive Patrols II.esp 38 26 Frostfall.esp 39 27 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 40 28 Tools of Kagrenac.esp 41 29 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 42 2a The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 43 2b PaladinArtifactsAndArmor.esp 44 2c Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 45 2d BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 46 2e BSHeartland - Meshes.esp 47 2f BSHeartland - Textures.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 48 30 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 49 31 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 50 32 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 51 33 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp 52 34 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp 53 35 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 54 36 Dr_Bandolier.esp 55 37 Draw!!.esp 56 38 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 57 39 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 58 3a Purewaters.esp 59 3b RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp 60 3c RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp 61 3d RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp RND_USKP-Patch.esp 62 3e RSChildren.esp 63 3f SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp 64 40 SkyUI.esp 65 41 Duel - Combat Realism.esp 66 42 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 67 43 Open Cities Skyrim.esp 68 44 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Again thanks! Update: I ran the script cleaner and done the tests, its still crashing but, (probably thanks to the script cleaner) the crashes don't specifically happen when i enter and exit buildings, rather it happens frequently in general. It could be Open Cities conflicting with another mod, I'll have to find out what mod it is. Thanks for the help though! Edited June 20, 2019 by mememachine69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saurusmaximus Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Part of your problem might be you are running out of memory, do you have ENBoost installed? And the memory edits in your skse.ini? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mememachine69 Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 Part of your problem might be you are running out of memory, do you have ENBoost installed? And the memory edits in your skse.ini?Hello!Update; I tried installing Enboost and editing the skse.ini and, while it did remove some of the CTDs, the crashing when i enter/exit buildings (in cities) is still a problem, I think its either i installed/edited the memory stuff (enboost, skse) wrong or its open cities conflicting with another modAnother interesting side effect to the memory stuff, some textures are now just pink/lavenderAlso is the enblocal.ini file supposed to be in the first skyrim folder? Thank you, you've been really helpful with this mod refining stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saurusmaximus Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Yes, all the ENB files should be in your main Skyrim directory. Make sure you have installed it correctly (guide) The only other potential issue I see is possibly Open Civil war is conflicting with Open Cities; OCW mod page even says there can be issues with other mods that modify cities. It's a bit of a longshot if you aren't actively doing the CW questline, but it's all I got at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mememachine69 Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 Yes, all the ENB files should be in your main Skyrim directory. Make sure you have installed it correctly (guide) The only other potential issue I see is possibly Open Civil war is conflicting with Open Cities; OCW mod page even says there can be issues with other mods that modify cities. It's a bit of a longshot if you aren't actively doing the CW questline, but it's all I got at the moment.update!I installed the Enb files correctly this time, and they seem to actually work! towns are actually viable now (i can enter the town/buildings, the only trade off is a small reduction in frame rate when within towns) and the textures are back to normal. the only problems I'm facing now are the general uncommon CTD and common CTDs when I try and fast travel. I don't think any mods conflict with fast traveling so it might be the SKSE edits? i followed the guide for the ENBoost edits so I'm confident about that, but I'm less confident that I edited SKSE right. Progress! Thanks for the ENBoost guide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saurusmaximus Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 In your skse.ini file you should have the following line: [Memory]DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768 <--Start with this value. You can increase it in 128 increments, up to 1024 if needed.ScrapHeapSizeMB=256 <--Don't touch this value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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