Very Strange Behavior And Not So Strange Long loads Between Cells

[RadoGamer]

Ok so after reinstalling my mods with Vortex my SSE played very well and there were no issues, then suddenly out of the blue my game started to show signs of long loads between cells, not an uncommon issue but the difference was the screen goes dark, then the load screen starts then the audio from the new cell kicks in then the screen goes black an loads after the audio is playing for a few moments.

 

Also when I use the wait function, after I press enter the screen freezes for a few moments then the wait function kicks in, never in all of the years playing Skyrim has that ever happened in my games.

 

Now I was in Solitude after doing the local quests I headed to the Blue Palace to start the Wolf Cave Quest and when I left the Palace, Carlotta Valentia is standing out side the palace and hands me her single mother line.

 

So I go in to my saves delete the last two and re-enter the palace cell and speak to Falk and when I turn around there is Carlotta standing in the palace. WTF!

 

So I leave the game.

 

Go to Falrim tools and proceed to clean the last save of orphaned scripts which there were four of. Start the the game all is fine except when I restart the Blue Palace quest there's Carlotta in all her glory.

 

If anyone has any suggestions please feel free to share them. at this point I'll try anything, I'm not beyond deleting all my saves and starting over as this is probably my 50th play through, but I'm not sure that will do any good.

 

One thing I can share is when I installed Vortex I used the NMM purge tool and later found that when I tried to compile scripts in CKFO4 I got an error which I was able to fix, the issue was NMM Purge had wiped out all the files from the script.rar that had been placed in the Data\Scripts\Source\Base folder once I replaced them from a backup I had on an external drive my CK compiled again.

 

I used the purge function on my SSE installation as well, could it be I'm missing script files as well in Skyrim SSE. Only thing is the file tree is different in Skyrim and I wasn't able to be sure which files to replace from my backup.

 

Thanks

J

Edited June 29, 2019 by RadoGamer

[RadoGamer]

Well I found all the files in the scripts.rar file and they are in the misc.bsa file, the complete list is there so that can't be the cause of the problem. back to square one.

[anjenthedog]

Ok so after reinstalling my mods with Vortex my SSE played very well and there were no issues, then suddenly out of the blue my game started to show signs of long loads between cells, not an uncommon issue but the difference was the screen goes dark, then the load screen starts then the audio from the new cell kicks in then the screen goes black an loads after the audio is playing for a few moments.

 

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I experienced the same problem (or similar) with an existing player (level 52) after updating to 1.5.80. I started a new game and the problem went away. fwiw.

 

Long waits (30-40 sec) when transitioning doorways (presumably cell shifts), long waits for "wait" and sleeping, and other delayed reactions to most operations. (even my inventory display was taking 10-15 seconds or more)

[RadoGamer]

Thanks, did you delete your old saves before starting a new game?

[RadoGamer]

Well I found all the files in the scripts.rar file and they are in the misc.bsa file, the complete list is there so that can't be the cause of the problem. back to square one.

Thanks that did the trick I just deleted my saves and started over. So far so good,

[anjenthedog]

Thanks, did you delete your old saves before starting a new game?

 

Nope. I simply stopped using that character. I suppose deleting the saves would be "best" but I still l have lingering, delusional hopes that she's retrievable.

[RadoGamer]

OK after starting a new game, playing was fine until my save number increased, After the past couple of days my game load time and waiting time increased, then suddenly Skyrim SE started crashing and the crashes increased. After thinking what could be the problem. I finally decided to close Vortex and run SKSE64 directly from my desktop instead of from Vortex. The slow loading stopped and the crashes went away. I hate to say it but if you are having the same problem, don't run your game from Vortex, I know people are going to jump on this and defend the application, but my assessment at this point is that it's a competent app for organizing and installing mods but integration with apps like SKSE, FNIS, etc.. still leaves something to be desired. All I know is when process of elimination fixes something it pretty much proves the point.

 

I eliminated Vortex from the game playing and the issues went away, Game loads went back to normal and not one crash after 3 hours of playing. Point in fact the issues started happening after the last Vortex update.

 

Like it or not, Vortex was the problem.

[anjenthedog]

OK after starting a new game... <snip>... I finally decided to close Vortex and run SKSE64 directly from my desktop instead of from Vortex. The slow loading stopped and the crashes went away.

<snip again>

 

Like it or not, Vortex was the problem.

 

 

Hmm... Interesting. I'm such a newb that I run the game directly from the SKSE. Vortex stays up pretty much all the time. I don't use Vortex as a hub for bodyslide or starting the game or any other tools. (Ie, I haven't folded the operations into Vortex, aside from installing/un-installing mods.)

 

I'm glad you discovered your problem. :smile: