Nidhoeggr Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Greetings! If this Topic isn't here in the right place i apologize and kindly ask to put it where it belongs. :) First of all, english isn't my mother tongue, so please ask if something isn't described clear enough. I've been playing skyrim since it was released. Pretty quick i installed the first mods i found interesting. From there, it just went on. Now my game is pretty heavily modded and im not that good at troubleshooting. But i read the description of the mods quite carefully, or better said i looked first if there is any known issue with some mods i might already use.Well, i wanted to start playing again and my game just freezes every now and then. Mostly in fights when i hit the enemy or i'm hit. The game just stops reacting and the music keeps playing in the background. This comes rather quickly after 5min or 30 - 45min. I don't think its related to a special location or special weapon or something similiar. I use Warzones as you can see below, but it doesn't seem important if i fight 1 or 50 npcs. If i remember right, the game froze even then when i was just wandering the plains west of Whiterun. I deactivated all mods and activated them one by one (of course without mods it ran smoothly for about 2 hours), started a completly new game, i even reinstalled my entire game with all mods, deleted mods which aren't that important to me. Furthermore, i'm using the Countervibe ENB with the recommended settings on a stable fps-Rate of 40+, even in effect heavy situations at maxed details and so on, i only decreased the visual range of actor lightning and details a little to not stress the system too much. I've updated SKSE, every important driver, directx etc. to their latest version so probably no flaw in that direction.I only tweaked the skyrim INIs a little to hit targets at greater distances. I allways run BOSS first and look at the loadorder in Wrye Bash (standalone-version) and tweak it only a little to some recommendations i find in the concerned mod description. After that i just use the "rebuild patch" function on the Bashed Patch and start my game via NMM. Don't know if there is anything else i could do at that point?! Neither of all this did work. And now, ... im running out of options. :( That's why im asking for a little help. I recognized an increase in stability, after removing the "sounds of skyrim" mod. Did that after BOSS told me it would cause some issues. My guess is, that there is some scripting issue during the fights or something similar. Or it's a simple load order problem that i'm just too stupid to see. This is my current mod setup which i mostly altered manualy just to try something different. of course i use some HD retextures that aren't shown in the load order. But i've got a quite powerful rig which i'm pretty sure can take the heat with ease. * 00 Skyrim.esm* 01 Update.esm* 02 Dawnguard.esm* 03 DirectorsTools.esm* 04 SkyMoMod.esm* 05 WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm* 06 Omegared99-Compilation.esm* 07 BlackTowerArmory.esm* 08 JSwords.esm* 09 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm* 0A Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm* 0B ApachiiHair.esm* 0C HighResTexturePack01.esp* 0D HighResTexturePack02.esp* 0E DaedricShieldHiResFix.esp* 0F HighResTexturePackFix.esp* 10 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp* 11 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.1.3]* 12 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp* 13 BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp* 14 Birdsofskyrim.esp* 15 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp* 16 Convenient Horses.esp* 17 Avatar of Baltazar.esp* 18 BlackSacramentArmor.esp* 19 BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp* 1A BlackTowerUpdate.esp* 1B Daedric Lord Armor.esp* 1C DarkNemesis.esp* 1D DeadlyDragons.esp* 1E DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp* 1F DeadlyDragonsSpells.esp* 20 DEATH-DEALER.esp* 21 Double Axes Standalone.esp* 22 Dragon Bone Mage Armor.esp* 23 DragonboneCrossbow.esp* 24 Dr_Bandolier.esp* 25 DwarvenMech.esp* 26 Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp* 27 EternalShineArmorAndWeapons.esp* 28 ExtendedVanillaWeapons.esp* 29 Gri_Scarf_and_Gugel.esp* 2A hunterarmor.esp* 2B Insanity's Ice Blade of the Monarch.esp [Version 1.0]* 2C LFArmors.esp* 2D LSB_BattleHammersV6.esp* 2E MaleClericArmor.esp* 2F Masked Helmets.esp* 30 conjure_chest.esp* 31 MidasSkyrim.esp* 32 MissAniThrope's Mystic Eyes.esp* 33 Cloaks.esp* 34 1nivWICCloaks.esp [Version 2.1b]* 35 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp [Version 2.1]* 36 Nordic Conqueror Armor.esp* 37 Northborn Fur Hoods.esp* 38 OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp* 39 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp* 3A Pupetteer Master.esp* 3B Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp* 3C RevampedExteriorFog.esp* 3D royal_daedric.esp* 3E Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp* 3F SSAPBWK.esp* 40 SummonSkeletalHorde.esp* 41 TCOSS.esp* 42 Thaiden.esp* 43 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp* 44 throwingweapons.esp* 45 Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp* 46 WVExpansion.esp* 47 private_singular_quivers.esp* 48 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Cold Skyrim ENB.esp* 49 ScenicCarriages.esp* 4A Beautiful Whiterun.esp* 4B RealisticWhiterun.esp* 4C Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp* 4D grass.esp* 4E RiversideLodge.esp [Version 1.3.1]* 4F Better Dynamic Snow.esp* 50 Vjarkell Castle.esp* 51 Tundra Defense.esp* 52 WATER.esp* 53 WATER - Get Wet.esp* 54 StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp* 55 My Home Is Your Home.esp* 56 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp* 57 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp* 58 no_essential_COs.esp* 59 Killable Children.esp* 5A Killable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp* 5B DragonsDiversified.esp* 5C DeadlySpellImpacts.esp* 5D DaedricCrownCraftable.esp* 5E DragonCrownCraftable.esp* 5F DragonPlateCrownCraftable.esp* 60 EbonyCrownCraftable.esp* 61 ElvenCrownCraftable.esp* 62 GlassCrownCraftable.esp* 63 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Light Weight).esp* 64 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp* ++ Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp* 65 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp* 66 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp* 67 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Light Weight).esp* ++ Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp* 68 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp* 69 JewelCraft.esp* 6A SkyRe_Main.esp* 6B SkyRe_Combat.esp* 6C SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp* 6D SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp* 6E SkyRe_Races.esp* 6F SkyRe_StandingStones.esp* 70 SkyRe_DreadKnightWeaponSet_0.99.esp* 71 SkyRe_Plugin_BetterBows_1.4.1.esp* 72 SkyRe_Plugin_DragonBoneWeaponsComplete.esp* 73 SkyRe_Plugin_ImmersiveArmor_5.esp* 74 SkyRe_Plugin_JaySuSSwords_1.3D.esp* 75 SkyRe_Plugin_Malo_Waffen_V3Bugfix.esp* 76 SkyRe_Plugin_NicoroshiCreations_1.1.esp [Version 1.0]* 77 SkyRe_Plugin_Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp* 78 SkyRe_Plugin_Omegared99sArmorCompilation.esp* 79 ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp* 7A ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +100%.esp* 7B ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp* 7C ABT - Loot Arrows +25%.esp* 7D ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +100%.esp* 7E ABT - Merchants Arrows +25%.esp* 7F ABT - Recover +10% Arrows and Bolts.esp* 80 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp* 81 Weapons and Armor fixes.esp* 82 Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp* 83 Enchanting Freedom.esp* 84 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp* 85 getSnowy.esp* 86 AllWarPaintRaces.esp* 87 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp* 88 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp* 89 dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp* 8A dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp* 8B Spells Cast Light.esp* 8C The Dance of Death.esp* 8D DirectorsTools_FogUnlocker.esp* 8E UnlimitedBookshelves.esp* 8F DynamicMerchants.esp* 90 IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp* 91 Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp* ++ Timescale5.esp* 92 Bashed Patch, 0.esp Sorry for that repetitive writing but i'm to frustrated right no to give much thought on grammar. :/ If more information is needed feel free to ask. Any helpful advice is much appreciated! kind regards, Nidhoeggr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staind716 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I hate to say it but it is more than likely a bloated save issue from uninstalling Sounds of Skyrim. A very big problem going on with that. How big are your save files? Nice taste in ENB by the way. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidhoeggr Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 Hi Staind716 and thanks for your fast reply! I allways start a completely new game, so there are probably no leftover scripts running if it's that what you are implying. My savegames are currently 5,5MB big, growing around 100KB each 5min autosave. That covers a playtime of 2 -3 hours. Killing the first dragon and going on from there, that is most likely the time when the game starts failing. I play mostly about an hour, save, take a quick coffee/smoke break and load again.I've deinstalled the sounds mod via NMM, so i've got no idea if there are still files left from that mod. Will look this afternoon and remove any files i find manually. Yeah, i love that ENB, great natural colours and all the effects i like, looks really great. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staind716 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Thanks, nice to know you are enjoying it. :biggrin: If you haven't started a new game after you uninstalled SoS those leftover scripts will still trash your game. Even if you delete the rest manually. Huge issue going on with that and breaking a LOT of games. Here's a link to a thread with more info on it but I can tell you that so far there is no fix other than going back to a save from before you installed it and losing all your progress since then or starting a completely new game without it. I lost a lot of hours and 5 or 6 levels rolling back to a save before I installed Civilizations. :wallbash: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/730926-you-need-to-uninstall-sounds-of-skyrim/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidhoeggr Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 Oh my ... please, forgive me my ignorance! Didn't know that you are part of the team who made that awesome ENB! D: Concerning my problem, well i think i made progress. After removing some mods and another complete reinstall, without SoS, the game isn't freezing anymore. Instead i CTD now ;) ... probably due to a faulty installation of some armormods on my end. *sigh* back to start i guess :) Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 JSwords.esm 02 Update.esm 03 Dawnguard.esm 04 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 05 WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm 06 SkyMoMod.esm 07 DirectorsTools.esm 08 Omegared99-Compilation.esm 09 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 0A ApachiiHair.esm 0B HighResTexturePack01.esp 0C HighResTexturePack02.esp 0D DaedricShieldHiResFix.esp 0E HighResTexturePackFix.esp 0F Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp 10 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp 11 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp 12 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 13 Convenient Horses.esp 14 DaedricCrownCraftable.esp 15 DragonCrownCraftable.esp 16 DragonPlateCrownCraftable.esp 17 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 18 EbonyCrownCraftable.esp 19 ElvenCrownCraftable.esp 1A GlassCrownCraftable.esp 1B JewelCraft.esp 1C UnlimitedBookshelves.esp 1D Pupetteer Master.esp 1E ScenicCarriages.esp 1F Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 20 Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp 21 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 22 BlackSacramentArmor.esp 23 BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp 24 Cloaks.esp 25 1nivWICCloaks.esp [Version 2.1b] 26 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp [Version 2.1] 27 Daedric Lord Armor.esp 28 DarkNemesis.esp 29 DragonboneCrossbow.esp 2A Dragon Bone Mage Armor.esp 2B SkyRe_DreadKnightWeaponSet_0.99.esp 2C DwarvenMech.esp 2D Northborn Fur Hoods.esp 2E EternalShineArmorAndWeapons.esp 2F ExtendedVanillaWeapons.esp 30 Gri_Scarf_and_Gugel.esp 31 SkyRe_Plugin_BetterBows_1.4.1.esp 32 Insanity's Ice Blade of the Monarch.esp [Version 1.0] 33 SkyRe_Plugin_JaySuSSwords_1.3D.esp 34 LFArmors.esp 35 LSB_BattleHammersV6.esp 36 MaleClericArmor.esp 37 SkyRe_Plugin_Omegared99sArmorCompilation.esp 38 private_singular_quivers.esp 39 royal_daedric.esp 3A Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp 3B TCOSS.esp 3C WVExpansion.esp 3D Dr_Bandolier.esp 3E DeadlyDragons.esp 3F DeadlyDragonsSpells.esp 40 DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp 41 Beautiful Whiterun.esp 42 RealisticWhiterun.esp 43 RiversideLodge.esp [Version 1.3.1] 44 Tundra Defense.esp 45 Vjarkell Castle.esp 46 Better Dynamic Snow.esp 47 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp 48 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp 49 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Light Weight).esp 4A Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Light Weight).esp 4B Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp 4C Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp 4D DirectorsTools_FogUnlocker.esp 4E Killable Children.esp 4F Killable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp 50 no_essential_COs.esp 51 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp 52 dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp 53 Spells Cast Light.esp 54 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 55 MidasSkyrim.esp 56 SSAPBWK.esp 57 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp 58 Enchanting Freedom.esp 59 The Dance of Death.esp 5A Double Axes Standalone.esp 5B ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp 5C ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp 5D ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +100%.esp 5E ABT - Recover +25% Arrows and Bolts.esp 5F ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +100%.esp 60 SkyRe_Main.esp 61 SkyRe_Combat.esp 62 SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp 63 SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp 64 SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp 65 SkyRe_StandingStones.esp 66 SkyRe_Plugin_ImmersiveArmor_5.esp 67 SkyRe_Plugin_Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp 68 SkyRe_Plugin_DragonBoneWeaponsComplete.esp 69 SkyRe_Plugin_DwemerAutoBlade.esp 6A SkyRe_Plugin_Malo_Waffen_V3Bugfix.esp 6B SKyRe Dark Nemesis Armor.esp 6C TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 6D UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 6E UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp 6F My Home Is Your Home.esp 70 Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp 71 Thaiden.esp 72 throwingweapons.esp 73 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.1.3] 74 SkyRe_Races.esp 75 getSnowy.esp 76 StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp 77 WATER.esp 78 WATER - Get Wet.esp 79 dD-Dawnguard-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp 7A Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp 7B DynamicMerchants.esp 7C Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Cold Skyrim ENB.esp 7D Masked Helmets.esp 7E SkyRe Equipment of Eternal Shine.esp 7F SummonSkeletalHorde.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staind716 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) Lol, no worries. Just glad you are enjoying it. We love to hear that and makes it all worthwhile. :thumbsup: Unlikely your CTD's are from an armor mod though. Texture mods overwrite one another so shouldn't cause this type of problem. You should focus on the ones that make changes to the game scripting and go from there. You are having some type conflict and simple retextures won't cause these CTD's. ;) Edited September 14, 2012 by Staind716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidhoeggr Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) Small chance of success, (finally, after 2+ months I removed my Timescale mod and it looks that it has done the trick. I need to test this a little more. I guess this somehow caused problems with the climates mod and/or deadly dragons spawnsystem, of course i do have no hard evidence on that. I just remember the Fallout mods which very often had problems with a modified timescale. I just hate to see the sun and moon running past in merely a few minutes ... so "stupid". :wallbash: Again my current loadorder: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 JSwords.esm 02 Update.esm 03 Dawnguard.esm 04 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 05 WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm 06 SkyMoMod.esm 07 DirectorsTools.esm 08 Omegared99-Compilation.esm 09 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 0A ApachiiHair.esm 0B HighResTexturePack01.esp 0C HighResTexturePack02.esp 0D DaedricShieldHiResFix.esp 0E HighResTexturePackFix.esp 0F 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp 10 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp 11 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 12 Convenient Horses.esp 13 DaedricCrownCraftable.esp 14 DragonCrownCraftable.esp 15 DragonPlateCrownCraftable.esp 16 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 17 EbonyCrownCraftable.esp 18 ElvenCrownCraftable.esp 19 GlassCrownCraftable.esp 1A JewelCraft.esp 1B UnlimitedBookshelves.esp 1C Pupetteer Master.esp 1D ScenicCarriages.esp 1E Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 1F Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp 20 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 21 BlackSacramentArmor.esp 22 BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp 23 Cloaks.esp 24 1nivWICCloaks.esp [Version 2.1b] 25 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp [Version 2.1] 26 Daedric Lord Armor.esp 27 DarkNemesis.esp 28 DragonboneCrossbow.esp 29 Dragon Bone Mage Armor.esp 2A SkyRe_DreadKnightWeaponSet_0.99.esp 2B DwarvenMech.esp 2C Northborn Fur Hoods.esp 2D EternalShineArmorAndWeapons.esp 2E ExtendedVanillaWeapons.esp 2F Gri_Scarf_and_Gugel.esp 30 SkyRe_Plugin_BetterBows_1.4.1.esp 31 Insanity's Ice Blade of the Monarch.esp [Version 1.0] 32 SkyRe_Plugin_JaySuSSwords_1.3D.esp 33 LFArmors.esp 34 LSB_BattleHammersV6.esp 35 MaleClericArmor.esp 36 SkyRe_Plugin_Omegared99sArmorCompilation.esp 37 private_singular_quivers.esp 38 royal_daedric.esp 39 Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp 3A TCOSS.esp 3B WVExpansion.esp 3C Dr_Bandolier.esp 3D DeadlyDragons.esp 3E DeadlyDragonsSpells.esp 3F DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp 40 Beautiful Whiterun.esp 41 RealisticWhiterun.esp 42 RiversideLodge.esp [Version 1.3.1] 43 Tundra Defense.esp 44 Vjarkell Castle.esp 45 Better Dynamic Snow.esp 46 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp 47 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp 48 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Light Weight).esp 49 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Light Weight).esp 4A Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp ++ Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp 4B Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp ++ Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp 4C DirectorsTools_FogUnlocker.esp 4D Killable Children.esp 4E Killable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp 4F no_essential_COs.esp 50 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp 51 dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp 52 Spells Cast Light.esp 53 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 54 MidasSkyrim.esp 55 SSAPBWK.esp 56 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp 57 Double Axes Standalone.esp ++ ABT - Loot Arrows +25%.esp 58 ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp 59 ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp ++ ABT - Merchants Arrows +50%.esp 5A ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +100%.esp 5B ABT - Recover +25% Arrows and Bolts.esp 5C ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +100%.esp 5D SkyRe_Main.esp 5E SkyRe_Combat.esp 5F SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp 60 SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp 61 SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp 62 SkyRe_StandingStones.esp 63 SkyRe_Plugin_ImmersiveArmor_5.esp 64 SkyRe_Plugin_Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp 65 SkyRe_Plugin_DragonBoneWeaponsComplete.esp 66 SkyRe_Plugin_DwemerAutoBlade.esp 67 SkyRe_Plugin_Malo_Waffen_V3Bugfix.esp 68 SKyRe Dark Nemesis Armor.esp 69 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 6A UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 6B UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp 6C My Home Is Your Home.esp 6D Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp 6E Thaiden.esp 6F throwingweapons.esp 70 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.1.3] 71 SkyRe_Races.esp 72 getSnowy.esp 73 StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp 74 WATER.esp 75 WATER - Get Wet.esp 76 dD-Dawnguard-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp 77 Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp 78 DynamicMerchants.esp 79 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Cold Skyrim ENB.esp 7A Masked Helmets.esp 7B Enchanting Freedom.esp 7C SkyRe Equipment of Eternal Shine.esp 7D SummonSkeletalHorde.esp 7E The Dance of Death.esp 7F Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp 80 Bashed Patch, 0.esp edit: ok ... everything still bugged, i CTD every now and then with no reason (atleast i can't find any). Guess i just play Diablo or GW2. Im so disappointed from that system ... just not worth the time anymore. -.- Edited September 15, 2012 by Nidhoeggr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staind716 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Tell you what. Before you give up completely let me go through that load order and I'll send you a lot more detailed info in a pm and see if we can get you going. My son's birthday today so it will be a little later before I can do that. Send me your GPU settings and inis in a pm and that will help see if I can get you stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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