undauntedelm Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 I'm using vortex 0.19.1 for fallout 4 with 8 mods on windows 10, x64, with 16 GB of RAM, using 8 mods. I've tried setting rules, adding new groups, and I can't seem to turn off the auto-sort so I can change it to index instead of auto sorting, but the plugins tab just wont sort to what I tell to. Also this was working before, where I could actually change the load order, but then I added an other mod onto it and then had to remove it because it crashed the game and now trying to add rules no longer works. I don't get any error messages but I do know that Race Menu mod has to be loaded before the CaN player.esp but after the CaN.esm. Before hand i had alleviated this problem by adding a rule to sort it out, but after adding sim settlements mod and a few other graphical improvement mods its crashed the game so i then removed the sim settlement mods and the graphical mods, and tried again and resulted in the game crashing still, then i reinstalled the game with fresh files reloaded just the Race Menu mod and CaN mod with bodysliders and the load order would no longer change even after adding rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AugustaCalidia Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Please provide more information using the guidelines found here: How to Request Vortex Support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undauntedelm Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share Posted July 28, 2019 I hope that added information is enough to understand what I mean now because after reading the Support posting page that is about all I can think of for information to post on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AugustaCalidia Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Thank you for the additional information. Please provide links to the Nexusmods that you're having trouble with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undauntedelm Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share Posted July 28, 2019 Crimes against Nature (CaN): https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/19040Race Customizer: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/15212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmm200 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Just a note:CaN has an ESM. RaceCustomizer does not; just an ESP.Bethesda game rules require all ESMs (Master files) to load before any ESP.There is nothing Vortex can do to change that.You can change order of ESMs, you can change order of ESPs, but you can not mix them. And make sure you are setting order on the Plugins page. Mod order is a whole different thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undauntedelm Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share Posted July 28, 2019 yes, I am setting the order on the plugin page, and thank you for that information. The CaN - player is an esp not an esm my fault ill fix that. It still would not change order though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmm200 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Just another little side note (sorry...)If I had a mod I wanted to load last, I would double click on the plugin and assign it to group "Dynamic Patches".These are loot defined groups, and Loot says that one loads last. I will show myself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undauntedelm Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share Posted July 28, 2019 Also I wouldn't call this solved, but I fiddled around in LOOT and it seems to have allowed the Race Customizer.esp to change finally, after adding a rule in LOOT, but it didn't take place until I restarted Vortex and I dare not touch the sort button in vortex again lest it undo the sorta fix that LOOT did. The load order for the plugins is still technically wrong according to the mod page as some addons I have do not load before the can-player.esp but they seem to load them anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AugustaCalidia Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 A load order is not technically wrong if it works. Are you saying that you now have a working load order? Also, did you make the rule change in LOOT itself or did you use Vortex to make the rule change? Finally are you still using your custom group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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