Hearthfire so unoriginal

[Stemin]

My comments about the consumers really isn't that complicated. You buy what you want, and Bethesda knows to make more like it. You don't buy what you don't like, and they know they need to make changes to it. It's really just that simple.

 

No, it really isn't. There are a lot more factors involved than just if I don't like it, I don't buy it, they don't sell and they stop producing it. For starters, not everyone might agree with your opinion. Not to mention people in general aren't very bright, like people who pre-order the game without ever having played it. I've been burned way too many times in the past on games that didn't live up to the hype.

 

And I guarantee you Bethesda isn't going to keep creating the same thing based on sales, because part of their job is trying to come up with the next thing, which is why TES is constantly changing and we have people who like Morrowind better than Skyrim. (or at least they claim to)

 

Not to go too far off topic, but that's something I always found silly about video game manufacturers. They take something really cool and then they try to change it in the next incarnation when I think if the average person enjoys a certain game, they'd be more than happy to buy more levels or expansions, etc. for a time rather than wait for a completely redone game. But then again based on some of the comments in this thread, maybe other people don't see things the way I do.

 

Definitely not even a billion (or anywhere close to a billion) people have bought Skyrim or will ever buy Skyrim. Steam shipped 10 million copies via the computer, and that got national and news attention. No game has ever sold a billion copies, and never will.

 

You're right, that's just plain a mistake on my part. I was thinking of the 3.5 million or so copies that sold on the week of release and couldn't remember if it was millions or billions and didn't bother to look. Regardless, I don't agree with your sentiment that no game will ever sell a billion copies or ever has. If anyone kept track of Tetris sales, I guarantee there's a billion copies out there. I'm sure there are some more modern ones like Doom that sold long after release and may have eventually reached that number, particularly if you count ports.

 

I don't think you understand the concept of what i'm saying. If you love and enjoy Skyrim, then purchasing the original game is how you show your support for it. If you don't like the DLC but buy it anyway like you just said, then that purchase isn't supporting Skyrim, it's supporting the DLC. Why would you support DLC that you don't like?

 

I told you in the last message, but you apparently chose to ignore it or didn't see it. Hearthfire is an accessory to Skyrim. It's cheap. I enjoy Skyrim, so that makes it worth it to me to spend a lousy $5 on it, regardless if I end up liking it or not.

 

As for support, I'm supporting Bethesda, not Skyrim.

 

Is this really that hard to understand?

Edited October 1, 2012 by Stemin

[Stemin]

Stemin, from this side of your posts it almost seems like you are pimping the DLC.

 

Well the basis of this topic was to put down the Hearthfire DLC, so the way I see it I either agree with that, or I defend Hearthfire, so why else should I not sound like I'm "pimping" it, unless I'm agreeing?

 

The truth is, the fact that the thread starter is still pushing the issue when it's not that big a deal seems to indicate more of a pissing match to me than any real attempt at a conversation.

 

The bottom line is, for $5 your expectations should be low, so I don't see where anyone has grounds to be disappointed without it being their own fault.

 

Honestly since I don't have the XBox version and I have made a mild effort to avoid spoilers, I only know a few things about the DLC, but like I've said over and over again, for $5? Why do I care?

 

That may not be your intention, but thats the vibe I'm getting. When you question why a housewife would not wanting to roleplay a housewife, it's pretty hard not to get that vibe.

 

Again, why is this a big deal? She made a statement and I questioned it based on some previous things I've read from her in other threads. If she doesn't follow the same line of thought as me, then so what? We're not all the same.

 

I really don't understand why she came off as taking it personal just because I questioned her statement and that's when things got a little touchy. I don't know her from Adam, so I don't know why I should have personal issues with her. In fact, I PM'ed her weeks prior to this to ask for help with something based entirely on something I read on here.

[SFBryan18]

Billions of people already bought Skyrim. Millions more will, perhaps as many as another billion.

LMFAO! Billions? Perhaps you are unaware that the entire human species is made up of less than 7 billion people? And most of them don't play video games. Do you even know how much a billion is?

[fraquar]

Stemin, just quote the whole damn post instead of sub-quoting everything. It's really overkill and just wastes thread screenspace.

 

See, I'm not even quoting you because I don't have to (and moreover all it does it take up screeen real estate) - I'm keeping up with the thread.

 

You are taking this personally, don't. Worst thing you can do is to get bent out of shape over a game. The housewife doesn't want to roleplay a housewife - accept it and move on. Not everyone agrees with the direction of that DLC.

 

Added: If this were a house DLC pimping thread I wouldn't even be in it - because I wouldn't agree with the position of the OP anyway.

Edited October 1, 2012 by fraquar

[beeblebub]

yeah all the kids look the same anyway, so im not interested. wake me up when they release something worth looking into. Edited October 1, 2012 by beeblebub

[scottym23]

 

I'm not going to quote everything you said because there's just too much quite frankly. But I will try to address the gist of your response to me. First off, I don't have "pissing matches" with people. You responded to my statement, so I responded to yours. That's called common courtesy, not match pissing. If you don't want me to respond to you, then don't respond to what I say. Nothing more to it. I don't understand what you mean by not everyone might agree with my opinion on the whole buying what you want and not buying what you don't want topic. It's not a matter of opinion; it's a matter of fact. As a consumer you buy what you want to buy. Would you go into a store and buy every piece of clothing attached to a brand you like? Of course not, since the fact that you like the brand doesn't mean you like everything they made. The same is for games and DLCs. I like American Eagle, so i'm going to buy the clothes I like from them. That's how I support American Eagle, by buying what they make that I like. I don't randomly buy their clothes that I don't like because I like American Eagle..That's ridiculous. That's the way you are sounding to the people responding to you when you say you're buying the Hearthfire DLC because it's "only" $5...That's not the point. I completely understand where you're going with that though. The fact is though that if I see a 10 cent piece of candy that I don't like, i'm not going to buy it because it's only 10 cents and in the American Eagle store. Sure buying that piece of candy might contribute to their sales, but that doesn't mean i'm going to buy it anyway.

 

If you don't like or care for the Hearthfire DLC but buy it anyway to support Bethesda, that's donating pretty much. But on top of donating it's sending the wrong message, that you are encouraging them to make DLC that you might not like. Not too smart in my opinion.

[StayFrosty05]

 

Why do you need "support"? I wasn't aware we were in a competition.

 

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just because my statements are full of conviction doesn't mean I'm trying to convert anyone to my point of view. I've made them clear. It's disgusting how many people think they can do better than Bethesda, and the entitlement and expectations are disgusting. That's my general statement on the issue. It's pretty darn hard to be a member of a PC board and just talk about Skyrim when everyone's only interested in what they're doing with their game. Mods did that.

 

I've always found the statement "agree to disagree" to be an exercise in futility. I believe firmly in my ideas, viewpoints, etc. If someone chooses to disagree based on their viewpoint, fine, but don't argue with me unless you expect me to defend mine.

 

'Support' as in understanding my perception.

 

I am refusing to argue/debate with you in regards to your opinions about the modding community 'entitlement and expectation'...that's your view, I don't share it. As for arguing with you, you chose to single my comment out and challenge it and so thus I responded with my reasons for my choice....what argument is there to be had? You play your game the way you like it, I play my game the way I like it, what on Earth is there to debate?

 

Well I don't know what to tell you. I don't keep a count of what you've done, but you've done it enough that your name stands out to me because I've heard it over and over before. I don't know why your above statements have the strong feel of taking things personally, because I don't remember attacking you.

 

If I could be allowed to return to the issue we're discussing?

 

I guess we'll have to "agree to disagree" ? I find $5 to be pretty much useless in regards to the important financial issues in my life, and because of that it falls pretty close to "free dlc" in my book. I feel that if $5 IS significant in your financial life, you shouldn't be spending money on video games in the first place.

 

You say you don't want to "play house" etc. and I can understand that, but as I tried to point out before, modders WILL be using these resources for future mods and just the components for house building alone may be added to a smithing feature for an armor mod you want to d/l later. That's just one example and I don't know everything the DLC has added. Slight variations to Falkreath and Morthal seem to have been made, and new NPC's are likely to have been added, possibly a few new outfits.

 

For me it doesn't matter if I actually USE the dlc, because as I said... $5 is nothing. I will be getting the DLC for the simple intention of keeping my game up to date, and having those extra resources mentioned. I can't think of a good reason not to get it, despite the claims in this thread. Modders WILL be using these resources, Bethesda WILL make changes to skyrim that will effect your mods regardless until the game is 100% completely updated (read GOTY), and therefore those arguments don't seem strong to me.

 

No, you have never attacked me....it appears though maybe that we are drawn to the same threads and so run into each other a great deal...and in you saying you have noted my comments in regards to my Dovahkin, I have like wise noticed your very strong opinions in regards to people modding Skyrim.

 

You are right in that $5 is nothing....but I personally just don't see the point in adding something I have no interest in....would just be a waste for nothing in my opinion...great for others who may want it though....that just doesn't include me....If I find a Mod I would really love to have that needs Hearthfire to install, then I may not consider buying Hearthfire a waste for me, but if or until such a time there is no point as it stands.....If you feel that I have posted too many elaborate details on my RP with my Dovahkin....you would also note that I don't RP a settling down/daddy type.

[StayFrosty05]

 

Again, why is this a big deal? She made a statement and I questioned it based on some previous things I've read from her in other threads. If she doesn't follow the same line of thought as me, then so what? We're not all the same.

 

I really don't understand why she came off as taking it personal just because I questioned her statement and that's when things got a little touchy. I don't know her from Adam, so I don't know why I should have personal issues with her. In fact, I PM'ed her weeks prior to this to ask for help with something based entirely on something I read on here.

 

My sincere apologies if that is the impression I gave you...that was not my intention, I did not take it personally and it was not meant to be taken that way....Sorry... :blush:

[StayFrosty05]

Billions of people already bought Skyrim. Millions more will, perhaps as many as another billion.

LMFAO! Billions? Perhaps you are unaware that the entire human species is made up of less than 7 billion people? And most of them don't play video games. Do you even know how much a billion is?

 

Semantics Bryan...who cares....Your trolling for the pure sake of trolling.

[SFBryan18]

Billions of people already bought Skyrim. Millions more will, perhaps as many as another billion.

LMFAO! Billions? Perhaps you are unaware that the entire human species is made up of less than 7 billion people? And most of them don't play video games. Do you even know how much a billion is?

 

Semantics Bryan...who cares....Your trolling for the pure sake of trolling.

I just thought it was funny. Maybe I'm the one who got trolled?

 

Semantics are important if you want people to take you seriously.

 

Don't worry Frosty, I'll get sick of this forum soon enough. :thumbsup: