[LE] No Hit Event on Magic Effect not working

[MateDeVita]

The Wiki says the 'No Hit Event' flag, when checked, makes an effect "stealthy", i.e. makes the target not register when it gets hit.

 

I created a plugin that sets the 'No Hit Event' and 'Painless' flags on SoulTrapFFActor (4DBA3). This is the only effect listed on the SoulTrap spell (4DBA4).

 

However, when I loaded up the game and shot the soul trap spell at a guard, the guard registered the hit and started looking for me. I was sneaking (hidden) pretty far behind the guard and had the quiet casting perk, so I'm fairly sure he couldn't hear the cast.

 

What else do I need to do to make the spell undetectable?

[IsharaMeradin]

Unsure, but make sure you test on a new game just to rule out lingering data in the save file overriding the plugin data.

[MateDeVita]

Oh of course, I'm an idiot. I always test my mods on a new game but this time I didn't bother because I figured the spell info from the plugin wouldn't get baked into the save. I tested it on a new game and it seems to be working as expected, I'll test it some more tomorrow.

 

Do you maybe know what I have to do to make it function in the existing save as well (i.e. reset the spell info during an existing playthrough)?

Edited August 23, 2019 by MateDeVita

[IsharaMeradin]

Unsure. You could try removing the spell from the player if already known and re-adding it. That may freshen the data.

[MateDeVita]

Strangely enough that didn't seem to work. I did player.removespell and player.addspell but enemies still register the spell hit.

 

I've also tried removing the spell, making a new save, reloading it and adding the spell back. No luck.

Edited August 24, 2019 by MateDeVita

[IsharaMeradin]

No idea, sorry. You may be forced to require players to start a new game for those changes to take effect. Hopefully there may be someone out there who knows more about this topic and can shed some light on the issue.

[kaylo]

Necroing this as I stumbled across it by accident but know the answer - silent spells (i.e. "casting sound level" is set to silent) are not truly silent, just quieter. For truly silent spells you'll also need to create a perk that either links to the spell in question or to a FormID list that includes it and other spells you want to be silent (don't need to link each of the spell's magic effects - just the spell itself is fine).

 

The perk should be set to Mod Spell Casting Sound Event (and if you're using a FormID list, setting conditions to require it being in said list), then set the Float value to 0.00 - that will make the spell truly silent.