tyreil829 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 why do they call it a "rooster pit"? you know i always wondered that Shepard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezdimona Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 why do they call it a "rooster pit"? you know i always wondered that Shepardoh the answers running thru my mind right now....shame on me! ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necromancer G Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 why its called a cockpit. From worldwideworlds.org The experts are sure that it does come, as its name might suggest, from a place where rooster fights were held. The word is recorded from the latter part of the sixteenth century, during the reign of the first Elizabeth. It came about because the fighting area for cocks (one of the favourite recreations of the time, together with bull- and bear-baiting) was often thought of as a pit. It was a roughly circular enclosure with a barrier around so that the birds couldn’t escape, fitted up with rows of seats like a small theatre so that the spectators could look down on the action. The first recorded mention is in Thomas Churchard’s The Worthiness of Wales of 1587: “The mountains stand in roundness such as it a rooster pit were”. Shakespeare uses it as an allusion to the round shape and noisy crowdedness of a theatre when the Chorus in Henry V laments its inadequacy to portray tumultuous events: “Can this cockpit hold / The vasty fields of France? Or may we cram / Within this wooden O the very casques / That did affright the air at Agincourt?” More than a century earlier, Elizabeth’s father, King Henry VIII, had bowling alleys, tennis courts and a rooster-pit built on a site opposite the royal palace of Whitehall. A block of buildings later erected on the site were taken over in the seventeenth century for government offices such as the Treasury and the Privy Council. That explains the entry in Samuel Pepys’s Diary for 20 February 1659: “In the evening Simons and I to the Coffee Club, where nothing to do only I heard Mr. Harrington, and my Lord of Dorset and another Lord, talking of getting another place at the Cockpit, and they did believe it would come to something.” A little later, the term came to be applied to the rear part of the lowest deck, the orlop, of a fighting ship (orlop is from Dutch overloop, a covering). During a battle it became the station for the ship’s surgeon and his mates because it was relatively safe and least subject to disturbance by the movements of the ship. Like all lower-deck spaces, it was confined, crowded, and badly lit. During a battle, it was also noisy, stinking and bloody. All this reminded people of a real rooster-pit, hence the name. About 200 years ago, on 21 October 1805, Admiral Lord Nelson died in the cockpit of HMS Victory during the battle of Trafalgar. The move to today’s sense came through its use for the steering pit or well of a sailing yacht, which also started to be called the cockpit in the nineteenth century. This was presumably borrowed from the older term because it was a small enclosed sunken area in which a coxswain was stationed. (The word was cockswain to start with, he being the swain, or serving man, who was in charge of a rooster, a type of ship’s boat.) From here, it moved in the early twentieth century to the steering area of an aircraft, and later still to other related senses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezdimona Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 why its called a cockpit. From worldwideworlds.org The experts are sure that it does come, as its name might suggest, from a place where rooster fights were held. The word is recorded from the latter part of the sixteenth century, during the reign of the first Elizabeth. It came about because the fighting area for cocks (one of the favourite recreations of the time, together with bull- and bear-baiting) was often thought of as a pit. It was a roughly circular enclosure with a barrier around so that the birds couldn’t escape, fitted up with rows of seats like a small theatre so that the spectators could look down on the action. The first recorded mention is in Thomas Churchard’s The Worthiness of Wales of 1587: “The mountains stand in roundness such as it a rooster pit were”. Shakespeare uses it as an allusion to the round shape and noisy crowdedness of a theatre when the Chorus in Henry V laments its inadequacy to portray tumultuous events: “Can this cockpit hold / The vasty fields of France? Or may we cram / Within this wooden O the very casques / That did affright the air at Agincourt?” More than a century earlier, Elizabeth’s father, King Henry VIII, had bowling alleys, tennis courts and a rooster-pit built on a site opposite the royal palace of Whitehall. A block of buildings later erected on the site were taken over in the seventeenth century for government offices such as the Treasury and the Privy Council. That explains the entry in Samuel Pepys’s Diary for 20 February 1659: “In the evening Simons and I to the Coffee Club, where nothing to do only I heard Mr. Harrington, and my Lord of Dorset and another Lord, talking of getting another place at the Cockpit, and they did believe it would come to something.” A little later, the term came to be applied to the rear part of the lowest deck, the orlop, of a fighting ship (orlop is from Dutch overloop, a covering). During a battle it became the station for the ship’s surgeon and his mates because it was relatively safe and least subject to disturbance by the movements of the ship. Like all lower-deck spaces, it was confined, crowded, and badly lit. During a battle, it was also noisy, stinking and bloody. All this reminded people of a real rooster-pit, hence the name. About 200 years ago, on 21 October 1805, Admiral Lord Nelson died in the cockpit of HMS Victory during the battle of Trafalgar. The move to today’s sense came through its use for the steering pit or well of a sailing yacht, which also started to be called the cockpit in the nineteenth century. This was presumably borrowed from the older term because it was a small enclosed sunken area in which a coxswain was stationed. (The word was cockswain to start with, he being the swain, or serving man, who was in charge of a rooster, a type of ship’s boat.) From here, it moved in the early twentieth century to the steering area of an aircraft, and later still to other related senses. hmmm,interesting,but I like what I'm thinking much better :whistling: is it warm in here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisnpuppy Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I would wish for my daughter: 1) to live a long live2) to live a healthy life3) to live a happy life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksnake89 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I would wish for my daughter: 1) to live a long live2) to live a healthy life3) to live a happy lifeSilly Lisa you don't need to wish for that. You're a godess, that's already within your power. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necromancer G Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 why its called a cockpit. From worldwideworlds.org The experts are sure that it does come, as its name might suggest, from a place where rooster fights were held. The word is recorded from the latter part of the sixteenth century, during the reign of the first Elizabeth. It came about because the fighting area for cocks (one of the favourite recreations of the time, together with bull- and bear-baiting) was often thought of as a pit. It was a roughly circular enclosure with a barrier around so that the birds couldn’t escape, fitted up with rows of seats like a small theatre so that the spectators could look down on the action. The first recorded mention is in Thomas Churchard’s The Worthiness of Wales of 1587: “The mountains stand in roundness such as it a rooster pit were”. Shakespeare uses it as an allusion to the round shape and noisy crowdedness of a theatre when the Chorus in Henry V laments its inadequacy to portray tumultuous events: “Can this cockpit hold / The vasty fields of France? Or may we cram / Within this wooden O the very casques / That did affright the air at Agincourt?” More than a century earlier, Elizabeth’s father, King Henry VIII, had bowling alleys, tennis courts and a rooster-pit built on a site opposite the royal palace of Whitehall. A block of buildings later erected on the site were taken over in the seventeenth century for government offices such as the Treasury and the Privy Council. That explains the entry in Samuel Pepys’s Diary for 20 February 1659: “In the evening Simons and I to the Coffee Club, where nothing to do only I heard Mr. Harrington, and my Lord of Dorset and another Lord, talking of getting another place at the Cockpit, and they did believe it would come to something.” A little later, the term came to be applied to the rear part of the lowest deck, the orlop, of a fighting ship (orlop is from Dutch overloop, a covering). During a battle it became the station for the ship’s surgeon and his mates because it was relatively safe and least subject to disturbance by the movements of the ship. Like all lower-deck spaces, it was confined, crowded, and badly lit. During a battle, it was also noisy, stinking and bloody. All this reminded people of a real rooster-pit, hence the name. About 200 years ago, on 21 October 1805, Admiral Lord Nelson died in the cockpit of HMS Victory during the battle of Trafalgar. The move to today’s sense came through its use for the steering pit or well of a sailing yacht, which also started to be called the cockpit in the nineteenth century. This was presumably borrowed from the older term because it was a small enclosed sunken area in which a coxswain was stationed. (The word was cockswain to start with, he being the swain, or serving man, who was in charge of a rooster, a type of ship’s boat.) From here, it moved in the early twentieth century to the steering area of an aircraft, and later still to other related senses. hmmm,interesting,but I like what I'm thinking much better :whistling: is it warm in here? I know what your thinking of and I could make it fiery hot in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisnpuppy Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I would wish for my daughter: 1) to live a long live2) to live a healthy life3) to live a happy lifeSilly Lisa you don't need to wish for that. You're a godess, that's already within your power. :wink: Thank you...I do my best but I would use them just to make extra sure!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted269910User Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Well, 6 wishes total, first the set what I would actually wish for; 1.Cash2.Job3.Girlfriend Now the darker set of wishes; 1.Gun2.Bullets3.The guys responsible for my father's suicide infront of me(Even if it was his own fault, even though he had his own part in it, he was not the sole person responsible, he simply took all the blame, not going to further details. Oh, I know who they are, and they know that I know.) P.S. That darker set of wishes, is simply wishes and grudges that I'm releasing at a shooting range, with photos as targets. That's enough for me, got better things to do than waste/destroy my life over a few aholes. Just got out of a meeting with my psychologist(Trying to figure out why I'm not interested in my school, dragging all the old crap back to surface.) so forgive me for the drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksnake89 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Well, 6 wishes total, first the set what I would actually wish for; 1.Cash2.Job3.Girlfriend Now the darker set of wishes; 1.Gun2.Bullets3.The guys responsible for my father's suicide infront of me(Even if it was his own fault, even though he had his own part in it, he was not the sole person responsible, he simply took all the blame, not going to further details. Oh, I know who they are, and they know that I know.) P.S. That darker set of wishes, is simply wishes and grudges that I'm releasing at a shooting range, with photos as targets. That's enough for me, got better things to do than waste/destroy my life over a few aholes. Just got out of a meeting with my psychologist(Trying to figure out why I'm not interested in my school, dragging all the old crap back to surface.) so forgive me for the drama.Suicide is something you bring upon yourself however when it's instigated it's just as much if not more the responsibility of the instigator as it is the one who commits the act. At least that's my personal view on suicide. I know how you feel though. I've had 3 of my closest friends commit suicide and 5 other people I knew. Technically 2 were OD's but it's pretty close to the same thing especially for the reasons they OD'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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