OneBoredBoredKid Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Here's the problem. I stopped playing New Vegas for a while, but then decided to come back to it with some mods to play with, but I soon noticed that about half the time a lot of NPCs had turned into big red diamonds whenever I fast travelled into a new area, and they didn't revert to their normal appearance until I saved at that location and reloaded the game. I know that the diamonds mean that some texture or mesh file is missing (or hasn't been loaded) on those NPCs, but I can't figure out what is suddenly causing it. I do know that it probably isn't any of the new mods I've downloaded recently otherwise I would've noticed it, and at this point I'm just thinking that I've simply got too many mods active at once and the game can't handle them all meaning I'll have to delete a large number of them and see if that fixes it. (yes, when dropping textures and meshes into the data file I've never overwritten anything which might have caused a missing texture or mesh) On the chance that there's another way around this, here's the load list from FMM if anyone can take a glance and let me know if there's any bad apples in there or if reordering would help. it's a big one :dance: EZ_CompanionNVSE.esmStockingsNV.espOutfitsReColorNVMaster.esmAEFCore.esmRaiderGirlCyanNV.esmWMR.esmNPC Project.esmCompanionX.esmAWorldOfPain(Preview).esmFalloutNV.esmCaravanPack.esmClassicPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmLonesomeRoad.esmGunRunnersArsenal.esmTribalPack.esmWARZONES - Misanthropy Pure.esmFoxsensEyepatchFashion.esmVikkiandVanceSuite.espJewelry.espRikai'sHairPack.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espbzArmour.espEZ_GLUE.espSlavejail.espFAFFNV.espSlave In Pose NV Edition.espFewPosesMore NVedition.espNewVegasBountiesII.espUnderwaterFX.espUWFXGodrays.espSpud.espPimpMyScarf.espK2K9 Treasures of the wastes (Higher Loot Rate).espExploding Head Bugfix.espExerciseMat.espGambling.espVanillaClothingMerchant.espQBackPackNV.espUnlimitedCompanions.espNCR Outpost.espJswords4sale.espJswords4free.espJswords4freeDMGPlus5.espJswords4saleDMGPlus5.espLucky38MarkerV3.espArenaAnySex.espJeyebotCompanion.espz_Fiends_2.espSDs Lucky 38 Suite Trophies.espMercWanderer.espMarkus Follower.espOutfitsReColorNV.espCompanionDe-Equip.espFeelingIrradiated.espDrugsAreBadMKay.espTailor Maid - NV.espshavingrazors.espCraftFireBomb.espJRougeRangerCoats4Free.espw44Satchels - Lite.espFollowers Ready To Fight - Unlimited Companions.espGunslinger.espDan's Presidential Upgrade.espRaul Repairs Everywhere.espEZ_VanillaFollowers.espYbwCustomClothes.espAllRacesUnlocked.espFNV - ShopHome V2.espPro22.espturrets.espPortableCampsite.espScrapMetalRecipes.espDuffleBagOfGuns.espRWD-NV v1.4 [standard Version].espAEFDeadMoney.espBroken trees - Honest Hearts house mod.espNeckchains.espGlovesGalore_DeadMoney.espGlovesGalore.espLHbackpacksNV.espSariDPosesNV.espWastelandNecklaceCollection.espFarmingSomebodyNotBob.espFarmingSomebodyNotBobHH.espAEFHonestHearts.espVegasChokers.esp0PA_Pregarmor.espMan Hunter Starter Pack.espBabyDoll.espAEFOldWorldBlues.esp1CazyTestEsp.espCables Plasma Rifle.espLighter Gold Bars.espWMR_HonestHearts_S.espCables New Vegas Clown Supplies.espWMR_OldWorldBlues_S.espCables Sci Fi Props.espFollower Wait Time 10000000.espWMR_LonesomeRoad_S.espCablesClownMasks.espGuns&Armors.espWMR_Vanilla_S.espWMR_Vanilla_R.espWMR_DeadMoney_S.espWMR_DeadMoney_R.espWMR_HonestHearts_R.espWMR_OldWorldBlues_R.espWMR_LonesomeRoad_R.espCables Plasma Pistol.espplayer Home.espWMR_GunRunnersArsenal_S.espWMR_GunRunnersArsenal_R.espBullet Reactions - Vanilla New Vegas.espHolster Gear.esp1Earrings.espACA-X Armor.espBallistic Mask.espJL121_Vault121_Project_Fellowship.espExpanded Ranger Combat Armors.espweapon pack.espDriveableMotorCycle.espDeadMoneyStuffinGoodSprings.espNewVegasBounties.espNPC Project - Freeside.espthestripsentrance.espFishing Shack Home.espcx01Amigo.espcx04Kayenta.espcx06Nevada.espcx07Layla.espCompanionX.espK2K9 Treasures of the wastes.espAbandonedHome.espjunkjunkie.espPlayable Raiders.espNight Vision Binoculars.espDeadManWalking.espMoraelinsProfessionalsSuitMod.espBobbleHeadGSSchoolHouse.espRecipe Dynamite.espCustom Fallout Weapons.espPinupPoses.espWurstBarberMachine.espArmor by Race w Undies.espBody by Race.espUseableToiletsUninstalled.espcass_raider_look_sugaki_v1.0.espBella.espNCR Trooper Companion - Female.espNCR Trooper Companion - Male.espFreesidehomeFIXED.espFreeside Food & Supplies.espGoodspringsSewer-1.22.espMojave Scout Outfits.espepock.espTactical Crafting.espSunny Smiles Ready To Fight.espHideout.espsjs_rainbowpunkoutfits.esp31 New Food Items.espTacticalSMG.espSLCPD Vest.espKORs Pistol Harness.espKORs Pistol Harness JG.espEpockTacticalClothingRemix.espLucky38ScavengerHome.espRebelStraponPort.espWastelandFreelancer.espCosmetic Cigarettes -No Smoke.espQRE.espI5K-OWB gear NOW.espREJill.espThe Professional_NV.espjoslinkydress.espSunnyCompanion.espWeaponBersekCrossbow.espNovacMotelRoom.espMySoundTrackNoCombat.espMCL_Weapon_Pack_1.4.espBlachnick90s M37 Ithaca.espprospectorshack.espNVRefugee Outfits.espPortableCampStuffNV.espCrossbow.espGeonox_Wasteland_outfits.espCompanion Crate.espBlck_Fx NV-- Add Implants Occulaire SM style.espWastestroller.espWater _Tower_Hideout_Reworked_v101.espMP412REX.espNinjaVarmint.espGlow Sticks.espNuka Break Companions.espMCL_Pre_warXbow.esp Total active plugins: 198Total plugins: 293 oh yeah, and now the game keeps crashing repeatedly (initiating dialouge, opening storage etc, and i've never experienced a crash doing either of these ever), and the player character even turned into a red diamond. :sweat: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanVOO1 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Sort your load-order in BOSS.And yes - its too many mods. Uninstall or merge some of them. And use FOMM or NMM for installing modifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 As said too many mods, get the number down to the 120-125 mark, the error you describe is exactly what happened to me when I had too many loaded. http://i.imgur.com/DsORz.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBoredBoredKid Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 As said too many mods, get the number down to the 120-125 mark, the error you describe is exactly what happened to me when I had too many loaded. http://i.imgur.com/DsORz.jpg Well, i cut down the number of active mods and then ran a sort load order. I'm happy to say it fixed the red diamonds issue, and there's a lot less crashing now, but it had a pretty strange side effect that I haven't been able to fix by re-ordering the load order... :facepalm: I have Body By Race installed, along with Breeze Bodies... but for what ever reason the load order sorting has made the default body template for girls change to an earlier (and i thought invalidated) nude body texture and mesh, and the male body is a horrible t-shirt and shorts combination with warped textures on the arms and legs. Now, Body by Race and Breezes are still recognised by the game, because when armor is added which uses either of the body mods, the textures and proportions show up perfectly. So it's just the default body which seems to have something overriding it and preventing the body mods from showing up in-game. Any thoughts? :teehee: heres the new load order again lol EZ_CompanionNVSE.esmStockingsNV.espOutfitsReColorNVMaster.esmFalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmLonesomeRoad.esmGunRunnersArsenal.esmClassicPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmTribalPack.esmCaravanPack.esmAEFCore.esmRaiderGirlCyanNV.esmWMR.esmAWorldOfPain(Preview).esmNPC Project.esmWARZONES - Misanthropy Pure.esmFoxsensEyepatchFashion.esmMikotoBeauty.esmCompanionX.esmMallory.espVeronica Face Replacement.espRWD-NV v1.4 [standard Version].espFAFFNV.espBody by Race.espArmor by Race w Undies.espbzArmour.espMikotoBeauty.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espAEFDeadMoney.espEZ_GLUE.espSlavejail.espSlave In Pose NV Edition.espNCR Trooper Companion - Female.espNCR Trooper Companion - Male.espFreesidehomeFIXED.espFreeside Food & Supplies.espDan's Presidential Upgrade.espGoodspringsSewer-1.22.espMojave Scout Outfits.espNCR Outpost.espNovacMotelRoom.espMySoundTrackNoCombat.espMCL_Weapon_Pack_1.4.espBlachnick90s M37 Ithaca.espprospectorshack.espSDs Lucky 38 Suite Trophies.espMercWanderer.espMarkus Follower.espOutfitsReColorNV.espLucky38MarkerV3.espNewVegasBounties.espNPC Project - Freeside.espthestripsentrance.espcx01Amigo.espcx04Kayenta.espcx06Nevada.espcx07Layla.espCompanionX.espK2K9 Treasures of the wastes.espAbandonedHome.espjunkjunkie.espNight Vision Binoculars.espDeadManWalking.espBobbleHeadGSSchoolHouse.espCustom Fallout Weapons.espPinupPoses.espNewVegasBountiesII.esp31 New Food Items.espTacticalSMG.espKORs Pistol Harness.espEpockTacticalClothingRemix.espLucky38ScavengerHome.espRebelStraponPort.espWastelandFreelancer.espCosmetic Cigarettes -No Smoke.espQRE.espI5K-OWB gear NOW.espREJill.espThe Professional_NV.espjoslinkydress.espCompanionDe-Equip.espDrugsAreBadMKay.espFeelingIrradiated.espGambling.espVanillaClothingMerchant.espPortableCampsite.espWurstBarberMachine.espz_Fiends_2.espScrapMetalRecipes.espTactical Crafting.espSunny Smiles Ready To Fight.espHideout.espGlow Sticks.espWeaponBersekCrossbow.esp1Earrings.espExpanded Ranger Combat Armors.espweapon pack.espDriveableMotorCycle.espDeadMoneyStuffinGoodSprings.espBlck_Fx NV-- Add Implants Occulaire SM style.espWastestroller.espWater _Tower_Hideout_Reworked_v101.espMP412REX.espNinjaVarmint.espDuffleBagOfGuns.espepock.espGeonox_Wasteland_outfits.espCompanion Crate.espNeckchains.espGlovesGalore_DeadMoney.espGlovesGalore.espLHbackpacksNV.espSariDPosesNV.espNVRefugee Outfits.espNudeFiendArmorNonReplacing.espPortableCampStuffNV.espCrossbow.espPimpMyScarf.espK2K9 Treasures of the wastes (Higher Loot Rate).espExploding Head Bugfix.espExerciseMat.espQBackPackNV.espTailor Maid - NV.espshavingrazors.espCraftFireBomb.espNuka Break Companions.espVegasChokers.esp0PA_Pregarmor.espBabyDoll.espAEFOldWorldBlues.esp1CazyTestEsp.espCables Plasma Rifle.espLighter Gold Bars.espCables New Vegas Clown Supplies.espFollower Wait Time 10000000.espCablesClownMasks.espGuns&Armors.espCables Plasma Pistol.espplayer Home.espBullet Reactions - Vanilla New Vegas.espw44Satchels - Lite.espWastelandNecklaceCollection.espFarmingSomebodyNotBob.espFarmingSomebodyNotBobHH.espAEFHonestHearts.espcass_raider_look_sugaki_v1.0.espEZ_VanillaFollowers.espYbwCustomClothes.espFNV - ShopHome V2.espPro22.espFollowers Ready To Fight - Unlimited Companions.espRaul Repairs Everywhere.espSunnyCompanion.espUnlimitedCompanions.espBroken trees - Honest Hearts house mod.espUnderwaterFX.espUWFXGodrays.espFewPosesMore NVedition.espJewelry.espMCL_Pre_warXbow.espBella.espAKS74u.espWMR_Vanilla_S.espWMR_Vanilla_R.espWMR_DeadMoney_S.espWMR_DeadMoney_R.espWMR_HonestHearts_S.espWMR_HonestHearts_R.espWMR_OldWorldBlues_S.espWMR_OldWorldBlues_R.espWMR_LonesomeRoad_S.espWMR_LonesomeRoad_R.espWMR_GunRunnersArsenal_S.espWMR_GunRunnersArsenal_R.espScrewdriversNV.esp Total active plugins: 178Total plugins: 228 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luthienanarion Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Get the total number of plugins you're loading under 140, or there is no help for you. The game engine breaks down when you load that many because of a bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBoredBoredKid Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Get the total number of plugins you're loading under 140, or there is no help for you. The game engine breaks down when you load that many because of a bug. Oh, the red diamond issue is completely fixed when i scaled the active mods down, and there's no crashing anymore. So it's resolved, But it just created a weird issue with the bodies instead. I don't think that's being caused by the same problem, I think that when i did the automatic sort in FOMM that it messed something new up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 The diamonds have gone but you'll still have weird things happen, there's a bug in the game that causes weirdness with too many esps/esms loaded, I can't even do 140 before things fall apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBoredBoredKid Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 Can you suggest any techniques to merge .esp files together? I couldn't imagine playing vegas without half the mods on there :ohdear: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanVOO1 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Use FNV Plugin Utility (Google maybe can find the guides)And look for NVEC. Prolably, it can solve a bunch of your problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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