tnu Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) it seems to be a mod issue because when I tried laucnhing skyrim in an unmodded save I was able ot get the dialogues. however I tested a save where all the mods marked as conflicitng were disabled from MO2 and yeidl no luck. my load order is as follows 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 EFFCore.esm 7 7 Campfire.esm 8 8 notice board.esp 9 9 Gray Fox Cowl.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp 10 a Cutting Room Floor.esp 11 b Customizable weights.esp 12 c UIExtensions.esp 13 d Melt_Down_Everything.esp 14 e WetandCold.esp 15 f WetandCold - Ashes.esp 16 10 FISS.esp craftingplusv2.esp 17 11 NPC Knockout Overhaul.esp 18 12 Holidays.esp 19 13 Inconsequential NPCs.esp 20 14 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 21 15 WARP.esp 22 16 RDO - EFF v4.0.0 Beta 6 Patch.esp 23 17 EFFDialogue.esp 24 18 Immersive Encounters.esp BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp 25 19 HearthCraft.esp RevertUSKPFortifyRestoration.esp 26 1a Order My Items.esp dracula armor.esp 27 1b CobbPositioner.esp 28 1c SkyUI.esp 29 1d Atlas Legendary.esp 30 1e Immersive Patrols II.esp 31 1f Hunterborn.esp 32 20 SpellResearch.esp 33 21 Frostfall.esp 34 22 Immersive Speechcraft.esp 35 23 CUYC_CleanUpYourCorpses.esp 36 24 ForgottenCity.esp no nocturnal oath.esp 37 25 iNeed.esp 38 26 Sneak Tools.esp 39 27 FollowerLivePackage.esp 40 28 RDOFLPCRFPatch.esp Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp 41 29 Mercy.esp azurahouse.esp Gray Fox Cowl - Camel patch.esp EFFDialogueDLC.esp FollowerLivePackage-EFFCore.esp 42 2a MHIYH.esp 43 2b AHZmoreHUD.esp 44 2c NicholasQuickMenu.esp 45 2d honedmetal.esp Arno Master Assassin Outfit.esp AssassinPack.esp Huntsman's Outfit.esp Roma Machiavelli.esp Simple jacob.esp The Witcher 3Vampire Coat.esp 46 2e BOTI.esp 47 2f wizDynamicThings.esp 48 30 Grimy Utilities Interface.esp 49 31 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 50 32 Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp 51 33 LLPatch.esp 52 34 RaceMenu.esp 53 35 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 54 36 RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp 55 37 RDO - Follower Live Package Patch.esp 56 38 SimplyKnock.esp 57 39 SkyTweak.esp 58 3a Utilities.esp 59 3b Bashed Patch, 0.esp Edited October 11, 2019 by tnu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsharaMeradin Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 I don't know the nitty gritty details of why, but once a character gets past level 10 with Hearthfires installed they can never get the bandit quest from the Falkreath Jarl. If you want to do that quest, you need to do it prior to level 10. If you are under level 10 and unable to get the bandit quest, then I do not know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnu Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) then that leaves me unable to access lakeview manor. EDIT: J ust tested it with a new char at level 9 no difference. Edited October 11, 2019 by tnu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsharaMeradin Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) You should be able to access lakeview manner. The hearthfires quest is not dependent upon the bandit quest. The courier should deliver a letter after level 10 to kick start the quest to get lakeview manner. Beyond scanning your mods in TES5Edit to see if any might affect the various dialogs associated with the Jarl, you may need to test your mods in batches to determine which one may be causing the issue. EDIT: I was getting my quests mixed up. Sorry for the confusion. I was thinking of Rare Gifts as the "bandit quest" rather than Kill the Leader. The Kill the Leader quest from the Jarl can be blocked by having any kill the leader bounty quest active. You could go through the process to get Dengeir to be Jarl. He will already consider you a friend at that point and should skip to the hearthfires quest. Edited October 12, 2019 by IsharaMeradin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnu Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 You should be able to access lakeview manner. The hearthfires quest is not dependent upon the bandit quest. The courier should deliver a letter after level 10 to kick start the quest to get lakeview manner. Beyond scanning your mods in TES5Edit to see if any might affect the various dialogs associated with the Jarl, you may need to test your mods in batches to determine which one may be causing the issue. EDIT: I was getting my quests mixed up. Sorry for the confusion. I was thinking of Rare Gifts as the "bandit quest" rather than Kill the Leader. The Kill the Leader quest from the Jarl can be blocked by having any kill the leader bounty quest active. You could go through the process to get Dengeir to be Jarl. He will already consider you a friend at that point and should skip to the hearthfires quest. Sorry I think I figured it out. there was a problem wi th the wa y I was testing it. COCing there wasn't the best idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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