The Immersion Fad (Rant)

[The6thMessenger]

 

theirs no shifting going on here, both of my posts are completely on point, its your lack of understanding that makes it look like its all over place, my first post states this: Getting upset over non-immersive/ fake mods is completely redundant. that completely works both ways. the guy is upset by the fact that your mod is non-immersive, and thus left negative feedback (that you could of easily ignored) but not only are you severely upset by the negative feedback, you took the next level and created an entire rant post over it, all of this is in complete relation to the getting upset over a non-immersive mod, the picture is incredibly clear here.

 

That is one part of your post. Negative feedback is one thing, but I am, quite completely appalled by the lack of knowledge about what what should be immersive and what is not. Again, it is little about the mod critique itself, but the shown lack of proficiency in telling what is immersive or not.

 

 

 

and my second post completely enforces my first post whilst going further in depth, and pointing out weaknesses, teaching you how to be smarter and stronger minded (to become smarter you must first be aware of the weakness, then understand the weakness, then you can eliminate it resulting in becoming stronger minded and smarter), but since you are clearly blinded by rage, you cannot understand the information that is being presented to you. anger blinds reason, knowledge and awareness, which in turn opens up the exploit to weakness.

my mind is way too strong and i am way too intelligent to be worried about invalid feedback (whether you call that being superior, that is indeed true, whether you see that as bad thing is completely wrong, its a complete strength and shows that i am on whole different level).

 

I don't care about that strong mind of yours at all. Never said that it is bad. I just said that I am upset, really really upset.

 

 

 

the fact is you can completely ignore my post, and thus learn from what i have written, which likewise would make you smarter, and at the same time enforces my post. or you can respond to it like you have with lack of knowledge to understand it. thus enforcing the weakness that i have blatantly pointed out.

you know the expression dont feed the trolls, it makes them stronger, well that is the same situation here, with you getting upset over that random negative feedback post.

 

So are you a troll? If not, why bother?

 

I don't care. f*#@ the guy feigning sophistication. That is it.

 

Is it a weakness? I don't care. f*#@ the guy still.

 

 

 

the internet is generally a negative place, everyone that is on it is living in the illusion that they are completely protected by the power of being anonymous, which grants them the ability to bypass the social rules, thus allowing them to say absolutely anything to anyone without repercussions, but the reality is that a lot of these negative people dont understand is the fact nobody is anonymous, their just living under the illusion they are, Negative feedback is designed to upset the target user, which is almost always the mod author or content providers. as the end user that the negative feedback is aimed at by being upset by that negative feedback is doing exactly what the user intended, thus weakness for you and power for them

 

I don't care, f*#@ the guy.

 

 

with that said thats the last i have to say on the subject, hopefully you will eventually understand the information i have presented which will in turn make you smarter and stronger minded, but until then and since we are clearly on different wave lengths, i will leave you with what i have written.

understand i am trying to help you see the bigger picture. which will make you stronger minded and smarter in the long run. by completely ignoring the troll/ negative poster/ bait poster, is making them weak and you stronger. their sole purpose is to upset you, by being upset means they win and you lose. <-- ignorance to these people in this situation is complete strength for you.

 

And what I am trying to tell you is that, understand why I am actually upset -- not the actual negative "lack of immersion", but rather the gall to critique what is and isn't immersive considering his lack of understanding how firearms, f*#@ the guy.

 

Again, with the high ground, keep it. f*#@. The. Guy.

And if you still don't get it. f*#@. The. Guy.

 

The point of rant posts is to vent, so instead of shooting up a place say a school, you just put the MESS in the message board. You really think a small post like this have an impact?

 

 

Here is the thing, I didn't really care about the immersion demand. You seem to be rather hung up on that, so we can't move forward. I accept criticism, so long as its on point. I am well aware that I cannot please everyone, and I am sure as hell not pleasing the Immersion crowd.

I think you are on the wrong tangent friend. Because what I said about immersion, and what you've just posted about it, is in sync. It seems to me like we both agree on the subject, and we both seem to share an opinion of what they can do with their "immersion".

So yeah. I think you took my post wrong. If so, say so. Otherwise, yeah... you're right, no sense in even me bothering to reply further.

 

 

Sorry, wrong guy.

[SKKmods]

When I get "not immersive" comments on my mods, whilst one should of course publicly thank the contributor for sharing their valuable opinion, I am naturally thinking "whatever, f*#@ off" and move on.

 

That's just like, your opinion, man.

[StormWolf01]

Ok, thanks for the apology. T'is well recieved :wink:

So after reading through, my original question is answered as well. It's partially the whole "immersion" crowd, but clearly, it's the guy who made the comments about the mod you released that has you pissed off.

I'm not a gun enthusiast. I'll say that right now. I'm a gun Freak. Typical country raised kid who had a BB gun right after he got a bicycle, and just kept going up from there. I've talked to a lot of folks who thought that they knew what was right and wrong about firearms. Some of them knew what they were talking about, and some of them had absolutely no clue at all. I understand what that can do to a person's temper. Especially now days, with the media and social media spouting all kinds of outright bulldrek about guns, and very specific guns. My former roommate was one of them that bought into all the drek, and thought that assault rifles were the bane of all evil, and should all be taken away and destroyed. I honestly can't tell you how bad he would piss me off when he started that **it. Especially since he would listen to nothing else, but his own opinion, and what the media was feeding him.

What's the point, Wolf?

Point is, I get it. This guy has hit two nerves. One your craze for firearms, and two your passion for modding. It's even more annoying, vexing, irritating, whatever.... when yeah, their points make no sense, are out right wrong, or just downright laughable.

But to be honest, in the grand scheme of things, they're just twits. (you can substitute the I for an A if you choose to). Too many people are just downright stupid. Case in point. Many years back, I released a mod that made a NPC look different. (I don't often release mods, and hardly ever release character beautification mods. MY opinion is, is that those aren't "true" mods. OOPS! Was my elitist side showing there? [Edit] Ok, let me rephrase that, for fairness. Especially due to different games doing it different ways. I don't believe that sitting around playing around in a face shop all day is modding. Tho I really do appreciate the people that truely have a talent for it. [/Edit]) Anyway, I specifically stated on the mod page that mod comments were not the place for lore mongering, that it was a violation of site rules, and that it wouldn't be tolerated. (Or something to that effect).

Naturally, some person has to come on, and post how my mod wasn't lore friendly. Had to post about what I "had" to do, to make it more cannon. Even with my note. The fact that they ignored the rules and my warning pissed me off more than what their opinion was. Oh, and I just happened to be a Moderator on that site, back when. So that ticked me off even more!

The point is, is that some idiot is always going to feel that they are too entitled to give their opinion. And you can ask any member of staff on any site, those idiots feel that their entitlement allows them to give that opinion to anybody that they feel like giving it to. Regardless of how stupid it makes them, or what kind of trouble they get into for it.

 

I guess, in closing, I just need to say this. It's not like the person stole your boyfriend/girlfriend/significant other. It's not like they lynched your favorite dog/cat/animal companion. It's something that's forgivable, and more importantly, forgettable.

Spend some time doing your ranting. Kick a few dumpsters if you need to. But don't dwell on it. There's too many others out there like that, and if you let too many of them get to you, you eventually become one OF them. Don't let crazy people make YOU crazy. :wink:

Edited October 24, 2019 by StormWolf01

[terrymatrix]

Huh i don't get it, couldn't the guy download another weapon mod, i'm sure there may be one or two others on the nexus.

 

But erm yeah, go outside and play for a bit. Then come back and read the list.

 

1) I make mods for me.

2) Because other people share their mods i feel i should share mine.

3) I don't care if anyone likes it

4) Enter a conversation with a civilian at your own risk (If the civilian identifies as console peasant,don't reply,just run,run for your life)

[steamteck]

It seems to me the problem is not so much immersion as the customer/user being a dick. Immersion is a thing I've loved in games since the 80s but its not the same as realism at all, its different for everybody, and doesn't mean you Unfairly diss people's hard work.

 

Rude people are rude people. As a retired commercial artist, I know this very hard when you put your heart and soul into something but try to pay them no mind.

[metaphorset]

Why anyone would care about some "bad" comment on the internet (hey, it's 2019, kids...) by a single person regarding their own work is beyond me, but anyway... here it goes.

 

"Immersion" is an overused word. It's not only overused but it's also a portmanteau that can be filled with whatever you want.

 

The same goes for "realistic", btw.

Edited November 4, 2019 by metaphorset