Slavemaster4u Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Had to buy the steam GOTY FO3. My disc were damaged. So reinstalled the game from scratch. Did first run through steam. Got to main menu. Hit "new game" Starts, thens CTD.Then I installed the F3SE. Then did large address aware. Started game from SE. Again got to main menu. Hit "new game" Again CTD. Checked the plugins file in appData->Local->Fallout 3. FO3.esm is at top and all DLC are there. So not a load order issue. Again no mods installed yet. Haven't played this for a few years, so can't remember if this was issue then. But was working on older (now deceased) computer. So should work on this one. Also did try running in compatibility for Win XP through Win Vista, with same results.Specs:Win 10i5 3.4ghz8gb ddr4 ram4gb intel onboard graphics Any help would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 "4gb intel onboard graphics" does not meet the minimum graphic card requirements to run the game. You can try this: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/17209 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slavemaster4u Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 @M48A5;Thanks for reply.Where does it say graphics (VRAM), not system ram has to be greater than 4gb. I run Fallout 4 on this computer. It's a 64bit exe and FO3 is a 32bit exe. So can't imagine it needing more than 4gb VRAM. Plus FO3 ran on my old computer which was only a i3 dual core with less than 2gb of VRAM. And 4gb DDR3 system ram. But will try the Intel graphics bypass to see if that works. Will reply back to let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 It isn't the RAM, it's the graphics chip that is not compatible with FO3. The requirements for FO3 call for a graphics card not a graphics chip, which is what the Intel is. The game is looking for a compatible graphics processor before it will launch. The link I provided will fool the game into thinking you have a real graphics processor and allow the game to launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slavemaster4u Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 @M48A5;Did the intel bypass install. Still same issue. I understand what your saying about chip versus card. The only reason I ? this is because FO 3 ran fine on my old computer which had a i3 duel core and onboard graphics. And I think it was only 1gb graphics. So not saying your wrong. I do know that a lot of games have issues with intel graphics chips. But the games do work fine, just more gliches happen. Have seen this especially with 32bit games. I have, on this computer, the Dragon Age series, the Mass Effect series, the Elder Scrolls series, and Fallout series. And the only ones that give me issues are the 32bit ones. Have no issues with FO4, SkyrimSE, or The Witcher 3. Though Witcher 3 has to be run on lowest settings. Sorry, long words. Just want to convey where my thoughts on this issue are. Thanks for all your input. It is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 The game was developed (2002-2008) to run on top-of-the-line equipment, a dual core 2.4GHz CPU, a nVidia GeForce 6800 graphics card, running on Windows Vista with 1 GB of RAM. Running the game on newer/better equipment does not necessarily insure a flawless game. I run the game with very little problems (no crashes, just some short freezing) on an AMD Athlon x64, Windows 7, 8GB Ram and a nVidia GTS 450 with 2 GB Video Ram with 120 files in the load order. That count does not include texture mods that do not have an .esm/.esp. I do not have the game installed in "Program Files". It is installed directly on the hard drive, in the folder "Bethesda Softworks". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slavemaster4u Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share Posted November 8, 2019 My games are installed to a drive seperate from system. So not in steam's default folder. This makes it possible to run games without need of admin privledges. I'm wondering if switching to a laptop with AMD cpu, like an A12 would work better. I'm not a high end gamer who puts a lot of concern into high end visuals. When I play a game, I focus mostly on gameplay not so much graphic details. So quite content with 1080p display. So not really willing to spend money for higher end gaming laptop. Though I do prefer watching movies in 4k, so did buy a 4k TV. I just want this game to run. If I need something pretty to look at I'll go stare at my wife for a while. That will get her wondering what mishief I'm up to though. :devil: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Did you download and install the Games For Windows Live client? xlive.dll and xlive.ini need to be present in order for the game to run. You do not need GFWL running, just the files present. It is my understanding that the Steam version does not have these in the download like the GOG version does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slavemaster4u Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 Did not have the ini. Now do. But this gets stranger the deeper I look into it.1. If I load game by game launcher I get an exception error.2. If I load the games exe it loads to main menu. I hit new game. That begins (Get cross hair at bottom of screen and scrolling background). Then game CTD.3. Have FOSE installed, but no plugins added. Launch game from FOSE launcher. Same thing happens as with game exe launch.4. Have deleted all FO3 files in root directory. Did file validation. All files reinstalled. Do same process as above. Get same results.Nothing other than FOSE installed. Checked plugins file (AppData->Lacal->Fallout 3). Fallout esm is first file in list and DLC after that.Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmI tried with and without the intel patch. Even tried with no DLC with and without Intel patch.Get same results. The confusing part is with the Fallout3Launcher getting an exception, yet Fallout 3.exe loads the game. The CTDs when trying to start game.I also let the game sit at main menu for a few min. to see if it would CTD without doing anything. No CTD on main menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Why do you have all those FOSE files installed? You only need the current fose_1_7.dll, fose_loader.exe. and fose_editor_1_5.dll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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