Random CTD Neep Help Please

[Zelezthelegend]

I made a post about this back in October here and on Reddit but I realized I posted my mod order and not the plugin order. I use Mod Organizer 2 and I have been having hell trying to get my game to work without the random ctd i keep getting while in game. It usually occurs when in combat but it also occurred when I was just trying to pickpocket npc's, most recently a random farmer out in the wilderness right outside Fort Amol after i left the abandoned prison with the Alternate Start Live another Life Mod and fought and killed all the ghosts inside the prison with no issue. I have been playing for many years and have rarely gotten my game to be stable and have tried a lot. I use Loot, tes5edit and Fnis along with MO2 all installed the way they should be within the MO2 launcher. Here is my esp load order, if anyone could look it over and possibly help me fix this issue or give insight it would mean the world to me thank you guys.

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

Hearthfires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition patch.esp

ImCh.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

Legendary Elder Scrolls Loading Screen.esl

SkyUI_SE.esp

Undeath.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Cloaks.esp

Cloaks-Dawnguard.esp

Cloaks-USSEP Patch.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

Mortal Enemies.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp

FNIS.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

RLO - Interiors.esp

Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp

Bounty Gold.esp

College of Winterhold Entry Requirements (Normal).esp

CRF - ShieldSpellFXS Restore.esp

Hide Those Futile Quests.esp

iHUD.esp

JaxonzEnhGrab.esp

BetterShapedWeaponsLW-XB.esp

No More Letters of Inheritance SE.esp

Path of Sorcery - J'zargo Dialogue Fix SE.esp

Realistic-Voice.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

SilencedPrisoners.esp

Undeath Immersive Lichdom.esp

Undeath - No Auto Quest Start.esp

Unique Uniques.esp

Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp

Wintermyst-Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

How Hard Is This Persuasion Check.esp

DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp

CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

RLO-Exteriors.esp

OBIS SE.esp

Sanctuary Reborn.esp

Man Those Borders!.esp

Holidays.esp

The Brotherhood of Old.esp

Do You Know Who I Am.esp

ZIA_Complete Pack.esp

Point The Way.esp

dragonpriestmaskfix.esp

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp

Wintersun-Faiths of Skyrim.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

CFTO.esp

Inigo.esp

Inigo_LSQuotePatch_SSE.esp

Afterlife.esp

BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp

Immersive Patrols ll.esp

Bloodworm.esp

Atlas Map Markers.esp

MiraakFollower.esp

KG_NoMoreTooPowerful.esp

Aurora-Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp

Nightingale Faster Cooldown.esp

EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp

HothFollower.esp

TheDBInitiates.esp

50 More Perk Points.esp

iEquip.esp

_tck_SpellCrafting.esp

FadeOtherSpellTome.esp

hondedmetal.esp

Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp

OBIS SE-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp

RLO-CRF Patch.esp

RLO-Effects.esp

RLO-VIS Patch.esp

Savage Wolves-Fox Fix.esp

TKDodge.esp

SOTFollowMeAndSwim Too.esp

UIL & Path of the Revenant Patch.esp

Path of Revenant- Manimarco Shrine Patch.esp

Zim's Improved Dremora.esp

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

Weightless Stones of Barenziah.esp

CWIAIPATCH.esp

CWICRFSEPatch.esp

Arcanum.esp

CWneutral.esp

JaxonzBlinkTeleport2.esp

BatTravel.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Missives.esp

Atlas Dawnguard.esp

Atlas Blackreach.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

Lucien.esp

NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp

TekSkeleton.esp

Atlas Dragonborn.esp

NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp

Atlas Hearthfire.esp

CuttingStoneCorners.esp

Immersive Speechcraft.esp

Starting Spell Choice.esp

RDO-CRF+USSEP Patch.esp

HothFollower UFO Patch.esp

PrvtlRoyalArmory.esp

NewArmoury.esp

Wintersun-USSEP Patch.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

The Dark Arts.esp

Wintersun-CRF Patch.esp

Enhanced Gauldur Amulet.esp

Wintersun-ZIA Patch.esp

Ordinator-Perks of Skyrim.esp

PathOfSorcery.esp

Apocalypse-Magic of Skyrim.esp

PoS Apocalypse Patch SE.esp

Apocalypse-More Apocalypse.esp

Undeath PoS Patch.esp

Apocalypse-Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp

Wintersun-Path of Sorcery Patch.esp

CWIOrdinatorPatchSSE.esp

Sacrosanct-Vampires of Skyrim.esp

Alternate Start-Live Another Life.esp

Patch-Starting Spell Choice-Live Another Life.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp

Unique Region Names.esp

URN_CRF_Patch.esp

URN_ASLAL_Patch.esp

Edited November 15, 2019 by Zelezthelegend

[jjb54]

The problem - LIKELY - is Alternative Start / Live Another Life.

 

Here is the thing - it's Quest Challenged to start with. But when you throw in MODS that alter and/or change Quests ..... this can create some issues.

 

I only know this, because I tried it with a Clean Save and such. It worked fine, UNTIL I started to add other mods that even slightly changed quests.

 

... But I could be wrong, with your game, as I do NOT have your system.

[Zelezthelegend]

The problem - LIKELY - is Alternative Start / Live Another Life.

 

Here is the thing - it's Quest Challenged to start with. But when you throw in MODS that alter and/or change Quests ..... this can create some issues.

 

I only know this, because I tried it with a Clean Save and such. It worked fine, UNTIL I started to add other mods that even slightly changed quests.

 

... But I could be wrong, with your game, as I do NOT have your system.

Oh wow I never thought about that. Do you think Unbound would be better? Or could you point out my other mods changing quests? I had someone on Reddit say I need to check with Wrye Bash to see if my mods are form 43 so I downloaded wrye bash but i have no idea how to find where it says which form my mods are with wrye bash. ugh, i just wanna play the game

[Zelezthelegend]

The problem - LIKELY - is Alternative Start / Live Another Life.

 

Here is the thing - it's Quest Challenged to start with. But when you throw in MODS that alter and/or change Quests ..... this can create some issues.

 

I only know this, because I tried it with a Clean Save and such. It worked fine, UNTIL I started to add other mods that even slightly changed quests.

 

... But I could be wrong, with your game, as I do NOT have your system.

Ok i fixed every single mod in my load order that was form 43 and made them form 44 and started a brand new save. Beat the ghosts, went outside the prison, talked to a wandering azura pilgrim for two seconds, ctd. Im so lost for words at this point

Edited November 20, 2019 by Zelezthelegend

[Zelezthelegend]

The problem - LIKELY - is Alternative Start / Live Another Life.

 

Here is the thing - it's Quest Challenged to start with. But when you throw in MODS that alter and/or change Quests ..... this can create some issues.

 

I only know this, because I tried it with a Clean Save and such. It worked fine, UNTIL I started to add other mods that even slightly changed quests.

 

... But I could be wrong, with your game, as I do NOT have your system.

Ok i disabled LAL to try it. But the first time i tried to load the vanilla intro the cart spinning bug happened. I backed out and tried loading a new game again, this time spinning bug and then CTD. I disabled carriage and ferry overhaul thinking that would help, i got all the way through the intro until right as i was hopping off the cart to make my character then instant CTD. Jfc