Chance to CTD when open UI outside.

[loen999]

I have CTD if i trade to my companion, open settlement, corpse inventory sometime if i am not inside.

 

I think i got a computer can handle this more than enough, I got a i5-8400, 5700XT with 16G 2400 ram install. i don't install texture that is higher than 2K, mostly is 2K or 1K with quality, SarvrenX as base with vivid fallout install, don't have Bethesda "high res" install. This is my first time to find help on forums, so i don't know what else i need to provide to help clear on this. I have try to reinstall the game, find anyone have same issue as me, but no luck with the result.

 

 

[StormWolf01]

Hiya Loen. Oh wow, that really sucks. That destroys most of the game, for you! :(

Something is wrong with your game not being able to bring up items, display them correctly, or something along those lines. Have you installed, or more importantly, uniinstalled, any mods that affect how items show in your pip boy, in trading menus, on your screen, etc.

Also, a list of your current load order may turn up some suspects.

 

If this was caused by a mod that uses scripts, reinstalling will not help, if you are using the same old set of save games. Scripts, including bad ones, and broken ones, write themselves into the save games. A term that we call "baking in" or "baked in". They can't be removed, either, unless you REALLY know what you are doing. Like, absolutely won't break your game, know what you are doing.

Anyway, let us know about the install/uninstall, and post up your load order, we will try to help you out.

[loen999]

 

 

Hiya Loen. Oh wow, that really sucks. That destroys most of the game, for you! :sad:

Something is wrong with your game not being able to bring up items, display them correctly, or something along those lines. Have you installed, or more importantly, uniinstalled, any mods that affect how items show in your pip boy, in trading menus, on your screen, etc.

Also, a list of your current load order may turn up some suspects.

 

If this was caused by a mod that uses scripts, reinstalling will not help, if you are using the same old set of save games. Scripts, including bad ones, and broken ones, write themselves into the save games. A term that we call "baking in" or "baked in". They can't be removed, either, unless you REALLY know what you are doing. Like, absolutely won't break your game, know what you are doing.

Anyway, let us know about the install/uninstall, and post up your load order, we will try to help you out.

I have start a new save without uninstall any mod mid-game, i only install the some more mod just outside of vault 111. i don't install mod will done the same thing. the things i got is VIS-G for sorting item, so yeah DEF UI.

 

0 0 Fallout4.esm

1 1 DLCRobot.esm

2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm

3 3 DLCCoast.esm

4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm

5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm

6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm

7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp

8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm

9 9 XDI.esm

10 a HUDFramework.esm

11 b NAC.esm

12 c SimSettlements.esm

13 d WorkshopFramework.esm

14 e AAF.esm

15 f RSE_II_Resources.esm

254 FE 0 WashOutThatCum.esl

254 FE 1 MIRVChildProjectileFix.esl

254 FE 2 Rusty Face Fix.esl

254 FE 3 TBOS-RaiderNormalFixMale.esl

254 FE 4 TBOSBodyTalk2LooksMenu.esl

254 FE 5 FusionGirlLooksMenu.esl

254 FE 6 Crimsomrider's Outsider's Mark.esl

254 FE 7 CROSS_Wasteland_Ronin.esl

254 FE 8 SavrenXHDVanillaLandscape.esp

254 FE 9 SavrenXLandscapeInteriorBuildingDLC.esp

254 FE a SavrenXHD1KBuildingAndInterior.esp

254 FE b SavrenXHDSettlementAndSetDressingDLC.esp

254 FE c SavrenXHDSettlementAndSetDressing.esp

254 FE d SavrenXFoodAndFoodware.esp

254 FE e SavrenXPropsAndJunk.esp

254 FE f SavrenXSynthHD.esp

254 FE 10 SavrenXHdDlcPowerArmor.esp

254 FE 11 SavrenXWeaponHD.esp

254 FE 12 SavrenXCreaturesPackDlcREDONE.esp

254 FE 13 SavrenXBetterRobotHDLibertyPrime.esp

254 FE 14 SavrenX SuperMutant Armor HD.esp

254 FE 15 SavrenX HD Vanilla Armor.esp

254 FE 16 SavrenX HD Vanilla Clothes Optimized.esp

254 FE 17 SavrenX HD DLC Armor and Clothes.esp

16 10 X01Light.esp

17 11 Fixed Alpha Map.esp

18 12 Nuka Cola Mix FIX.esp

19 13 Faster Terminal Displays (20x).esp

20 14 WET.esp

21 15 NAC-FarHarbor.esp

22 16 NAC-NukaWorld.esp

23 17 Project Reality Footsteps FO4.esp

24 18 SettlementMenuManager.esp

254 FE 18 SimSettlementsDiverseVisitors.esp

25 19 Sim_Settlements_Mayors.esp

26 1a IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp

27 1b UltraExteriorLighting.esp

28 1c Armorsmith Extended.esp

29 1d VIS-G Item Sorting.esp

30 1e Unique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters.esp

31 1f BostonFPSFixAIO.esp

32 20 Atomic World.esp

33 21 Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp

34 22 MoreAGOMBz.esp

35 23 SimSettlements_XPAC_Conqueror.esp

36 24 WorkshopPlus.esp

37 25 SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearTwo.esp

38 26 SS_AddOn_CbC_AIO.esp

39 27 ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp

40 28 ohSIM_Sim_Settlements_Scrappers_Addon.esp

41 29 BloodMoonRaiders.esp

42 2a SimHomestead.esp

254 FE 19 CROSS_MojaveManhunter.esp

43 2b Crimsomrider's Obedient Concord Group.esp

44 2c BerettaM9FS.esp

45 2d G36Complex.esp

46 2e SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.esp

47 2f WVSimSAddon.esp

48 30 ss_addon_pbpp.esp

49 31 MJC_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp

50 32 Altairp's Animal Farm.esp

51 33 SSAOP_SamutzVault88.esp

52 34 SimSettlements_CityPlanPack_ContestEntries.esp

53 35 LongerPowerLines3x.esp

54 36 CWSS Redux.esp

55 37 LadyKillerBed.esp

56 38 MTM-NukaMixerCapsForColas.esp

57 39 TrueBlood.esp

58 3a ShellRain.esp

59 3b 3pMeleeTweak.esp

60 3c Better Locational Damage.esp

61 3d Crimsomrider's Convenient Resources.esp

62 3e Better Locational Damage - DLC_Automatron.esp

63 3f Better Locational Damage - DLC_Nuka_World.esp

64 40 Better Locational Damage - DLC_WWorkshop.esp

65 41 BLD - Leveled Lists - DLC.esp

66 42 advancedAITweaks.esp

67 43 Better Locational Damage - DLC_Far_Harbor.esp

68 44 Better Explosives Redux.esp

69 45 Arbitration - Fall Damage Overhaul.esp

70 46 VATSMove.esp

71 47 FeralNonLethalBite.esp

72 48 CompanionStatus.esp

73 49 WmkActiveEffects.esp

74 4a AA Lots More Settlers and Enemies.esp

75 4b AA LMSE_FarHarbor.esp

76 4c Realistic_conversations.esp

77 4d IcebreakerCDO-Settlements.esp

78 4e EveryonesBestFriend.esp

79 4f ImmersiveDogmeat.esp

80 50 MiscHairstyle.esp

254 FE 1a Homemade Piper BLD.esp

81 51 Synths Revamped.esp

82 52 spacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.esp

AutomatronSDTank500slrDesign.esp

83 53 NoLollygagging.esp

84 54 Ai Tweak.esp

85 55 Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp

86 56 BetterFlareLight.esp

87 57 CROSS_GoreCrits.esp

88 58 CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp

89 59 CHKFlora.esp

90 5a LooksMenu.esp

91 5b LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp

92 5c SleekStylesPack.esp

93 5d AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp

94 5e KSHairdos_oel.esp

95 5f BDO Hair.esp

96 60 ParagonHairs.esp

97 61 HiPolyFaces.esp

98 62 Better Aim Models.esp

254 FE 1b CROSS_Blades.esp

99 63 RU556.esp

100 64 DP_CaravanShotgun.esp

101 65 BullpupBozar.esp

102 66 MP7.esp

103 67 AK400.esp

104 68 HK_MP5.esp

105 69 HK_UMP.esp

106 6a McMillanCS5.esp

254 FE 1c CROSS_CryoLance.esp

107 6b No Aggro Impact Landing.esp

108 6c BetterJetpack.esp

109 6d AE Animated Jetpacks.esp

254 FE 1d FO4HHS.esp

110 6e TheKite_VTS.esp

111 6f TheKite_HCD_SynthUniform.esp

112 70 TheKite_HCD_SynthUniform_Replacer.esp

254 FE 1e CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp

254 FE 1f CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp

254 FE 20 CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp

254 FE 21 TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp

254 FE 22 CROSS_2077.esp

254 FE 23 CROSS_CoA.esp

113 71 ToughGirlAttire.esp

114 72 bTankTop.esp

115 73 vneck.esp

116 74 winryTop.esp

117 75 InnTankTop.esp

118 76 VtawWardrobe1.esp

119 77 VtawWardrobe2.esp

120 78 VtawJumpsuit.esp

254 FE 24 VtawTifa.esp

121 79 Dickys Pinup Outfit.esp

122 7a Bryson's LaTeX FaNTaSY v2.esp

123 7b Grim ZeroTwo.esp

124 7c Grim ZeroSuitSamus.esp

125 7d Emilie De Rochefort Outfits.esp

126 7e PerpetualBeta_OppressorDogArmor.esp

127 7f Be Exceptional.esp

Be Exceptional - Uninstall.esp

128 80 LevelCap.esp

129 81 Unique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters - AE & VIS-G Patch.esp

254 FE 25 LOST Workshop Framework + Plus Patch.esp

254 FE 26 LOST Sim Settlements Patch.esp

254 FE 27 LOST SS Conqueror Patch.esp

254 FE 28 LOST Mega Year 1 Patch.esp

254 FE 29 LOST Mega Year 2 Patch.esp

254 FE 2a LOST Wasteland Venturers 2 Patch.esp

254 FE 2b LOST NAC Patch.esp

254 FE 2c LOST Explosives Redux Patch.esp

254 FE 2d LOST Crit Gore-verhaul Patch.esp

130 82 FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp

131 83 FO4_Leito_Voicefix.esp

132 84 Deathclaw_nude.esp

133 85 Vioxsis_Strap-Ons.esp

134 86 rxl_bp70_animations.esp

135 87 AAF_CreaturePack01.esp

136 88 AAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp

137 89 SavageCabbage_Animations.esp

138 8a Atomic Lust.esp

139 8b Mutated Lust.esp

140 8c Custom Moans.esp

141 8d CumNWealth.esp

142 8e CumNWealth_mutant.esp

143 8f Zaz Particles.esp

144 90 FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp

145 91 AAF_Violate.esp

254 FE 2e AAF_Violate_DLC_Patch.esp

146 92 RSE_II_RandomShenanigans.esp

147 93 HappyHookersInc.esp

Those are what i have got.

I use Loot to sort the load order, since i believe it do better job than me.

Edited November 15, 2019 by loen999

[manndesfriedens]

Hello, @loen999.

Do NOT trust LOOT alone with load order for ESPs! After sortting with LOOT open Wrye Bash and see which mods have red warning colors. Click those mods and look on the right side what masters this mod need and sort them FROM TOP TO DOWN manually - till it gets 'green'.

LOOT is USEFUL to find out if there are dirty plugins to be cleaned or missing masters but it's NOT a good idea for sorting mods.

By the way, plugins load order is NOT important, important is the mod installation order. I install the mods then sort them in plugins section so that both (mod installation and plugins) matching together the installed mods order. Example: UFO4P has to be installed before other mods and comes at the TOP plugins load order - no other mods should be above this mod - except Fallout4 and all DLCs.
Then you install .ESM mods first, then .ESL mods THEN the .ESP mods. ESM's come above ESL's.

I have almost 500 installed mods and almost 400 activated plugins that Wrye Bash shows almost all 'green' (meaning: every mods has found it's Master).

[loen999]

Hello, @loen999.

 

Do NOT trust LOOT alone with load order for ESPs! After sortting with LOOT open Wrye Bash and see which mods have red warning colors. Click those mods and look on the right side what masters this mod need and sort them FROM TOP TO DOWN manually - till it gets 'green'.

 

LOOT is USEFUL to find out if there are dirty plugins to be cleaned or missing masters but it's NOT a good idea for sorting mods.

 

By the way, plugins load order is NOT important, important is the mod installation order. I install the mods then sort them in plugins section so that both (mod installation and plugins) matching together the installed mods order. Example: UFO4P has to be installed before other mods and comes at the TOP plugins load order - no other mods should be above this mod - except Fallout4 and all DLCs.

Then you install .ESM mods first, then .ESL mods THEN the .ESP mods. ESM's come above ESL's.

 

I have almost 500 installed mods and almost 400 activated plugins that Wrye Bash shows almost all 'green' (meaning: every mods has found it's Master).

I use Mod organizer 2, so that won't be a problem. i will try to see what can i do...