races in skyrim

[russianborn]

Bretons-French

Imperials-Americans

Nords-Russian

Orcs-Germans

Redguards-Africans

High Elves-Chinese

Dark Elves-Japanese

Wood Elves-Koreans

:)

 

Edited to remove politically incorrect and inappropriate word. :rolleyes:

Bben46

[luzburg]

Bretons-French

Imperials-Americans

Nords-Russian

Orcs-Germans

Redguards-Africans

High Elves-Chinese

Dark Elves-Japanese

Wood Elves-Koreans

:)

 

Edited to remove politically incorrect and inappropriate word. :rolleyes:

Bben46

 

All the human races except the Redguards are from Atmora. So I say the equivalent is that the Nords are like the vikings who settled in Normandy and the Imperials are the vikings who started imperial Russia. The bretons are the ones who settled in the celtic countries and more or less became assimililated. Such as in Dublin, the capital of Ireland, it was an old viking port. The Redguards are Arabic because of the Scimitars.

 

Morrowind seemed like a kind of mosh up of american and japanese themes. Slavery and isolationist tendencies.

Khajiit are nomads.

Wood elves are the welsh.

High elves are the Greeks maybe.

Orcs are germanic tribes.

 

Thats all I got lol.

[CasperTheLich]

Bretons-French

Imperials-Americans

Nords-Russian

Orcs-Germans

Redguards-Africans

High Elves-Chinese

Dark Elves-Japanese

Wood Elves-Koreans

:)

 

Edited to remove politically incorrect and inappropriate word. :rolleyes:

Bben46

 

i think it's more like (by culture and attitude)

Bretons-British

Imperials-American

Nords-Norwegians

Orcs-Huns (as in Attila the Hun *sp*)

Redguards-Africans

Altmer-Germans or French

Dunmer-Civilwar era Japanese (16th-17th century) or early 19th century Americans

Bosmer-somewhat Korean (i'll give you that), but not really... kind of hard to place.

 

---edit

 

Khajiit are nomads.

Wood elves are the welsh.

High elves are the Greeks maybe.

Orcs are germanic tribes.

 

the altmer & orcs i can see. how did you get that for bosmer?

Edited October 28, 2012 by Invisible Man

[Deleted3507349User]

I don't really see how you can correlate the non-human races of Tamriel to a nationality in the real world. The non-human races don't seem to match up very well, more like they're a combination of many different real-world races with certain traits that don't really have a counterpart. That said, the human races definitely seem to have their parallels.

 

Nords = Norse (duh), with hints of other caucasian races

Imperials = Roman/Greek

Bretons = Celt (a mashup of Irish/Scottish/British)

Redguard = Medieval Moor

 

I'll take a stab at the non-human races anyway, just for the fun of it.

 

Orcs = Tribal African/Australian Aborigine

Dunmer = Japanese/Chinese

Bosmer = Polynesian

Khajiit = Arabic/Northern Africans

Altmer = Sumerian

Dwemer = Ancient Egyptian

Argonian = No clue

[WatchMeGoing]

Bretons-French

Imperials-Americans

Nords-Russian

Orcs-Germans

Redguards-Africans

High Elves-Chinese

Dark Elves-Japanese

Wood Elves-Koreans

:)

 

Edited to remove politically incorrect and inappropriate word. :rolleyes:

Bben46

This is bad and you should feel bad.

 

I figured the human races are based on the different "races" back in Roman times.

 

Bretons - French/English (Great-)Brittany

Imperials - Romans (Roman Empire)

Nords - German barbarians/Vikings

Redguards - Africans

(Akaviri - Japanese)

 

The Elves are more based on fantasy, and don't directly relate to any real culture.

 

Argonians and Khajiit mostly reflect the bottom layers of society, but it doesn't matter which society.

 

EDIT: Actually, Khajiit are a pretty clear combination between North-African nomads and the most negative stereotype of gypsies.

Edited October 28, 2012 by WatchMeGoing

[JanusForbeare]

I don't really see how you can correlate the non-human races of Tamriel to a nationality in the real world. The non-human races don't seem to match up very well, more like they're a combination of many different real-world races with certain traits that don't really have a counterpart.

 

I'm with this. Bethesda took certain influences from real-world cultures when they originally designed some of the races, sure. But those races have changed throughout the the evolution of the series, and taken on histories of their own, drawing influences from all sorts of real-world events. Comparing TES races to a single, modern nationality is a very simplistic approach.

 

What's more, any attempt to do so is going to be subject to the player's own biases, experiences, and understanding of history. There are already a bunch of conflicting points of view posted here, which reflects the simple fact that there are no correct answers. Personally, I'm worried that this discussion will become heated very quickly, as posters begin to use fictional conflicts and racial traits as parallels for their own patriotic and/or potentially prejudicial real-world beliefs.

 

TES is a work of fiction. It's a make-believe world where we can explore sensitive issues, like colonialism, military occupation, and inter-ethnic tensions without taking on any of the baggage that accompanies such issues in real life. I vote that we keep it that way.

[WatchMeGoing]

I'm with this. Bethesda took certain influences from real-world cultures when they originally designed some of the races, sure. But those races have changed throughout the the evolution of the series, and taken on histories of their own, drawing influences from all sorts of real-world events. Comparing TES races to a single, modern nationality is a very simplistic approach.

The guy you're quoting only said that about non-human races. The human races are obviously based on historical cultures. I agree that you shouldn't compare the races to a modern nationality indeed. That wouldn't make any sense. Non of our modern cultures fit any of the TES races, since there is nothing modern in TES. Please note however that "based on" does not mean the same as "equal to". Obviously there is no culture that is an exact match with any of the TES races. Nobody here claims that.

 

What's more, any attempt to do so is going to be subject to the player's own biases, experiences, and understanding of history.

Only one history happened. Your understanding of said history does not change whether or not Bethesda based their races on historical cultures or not. The interesting question would be: What is Bethesda's understanding of history.

 

There are already a bunch of conflicting points of view posted here, which reflects the simple fact that there are no correct answers.

There are correct and incorrect answers. Bethesda based the races on SOMETHING. Asking them could give us the answer. Anybody who would claim something else than what they say, would be wrong.

Just because the answer isn't known (yet), doesn't mean it's pointless to discuss it or that there is no correct answer. Heck, even if there really was no correct answer, why can't we just discuss it for the sake of discussion?

 

TES is a work of fiction. It's a make-believe world where we can explore sensitive issues, like colonialism, military occupation, and inter-ethnic tensions without taking on any of the baggage that accompanies such issues in real life. I vote that we keep it that way.

What? If anything, TES promotes racism. Sure, you'd have to be a complete idiot to start hating cats because you don't like Khajiit, but to a lesser extend, TES does promote the idea that there are real differences between people from different cultures (whether or not that is true is an entirely different debate).

 

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you or anything, just wanted to point out that your attempt to be the sensible adult isn't really called for in this discussion.

 

NOTE: I know I could be wrong in my previous post where I guessed what the races are based on. I'm just saying that the right answers probably do exist and there is no need for your approach.

 

So for the sake of getting the discussion back on track: I am curious. Those of you who said the Imperials are based on Americans. What do you base that on? I cannot think of any resemblance. Americans never had an empire or emperor, unlike the romans, and the imperial armors are based on roman armors (both the legionaires in Oblivion and the Imperial soldiers in Skyrim). The Romans really just seem like the obvious choice here. Still think I'm wrong? Enlighten me.

[JanusForbeare]

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you or anything, just wanted to point out that your attempt to be the sensible adult isn't really called for in this discussion.

 

Being sensible and mature is called for in any discussion.

 

I'm not going to respond to each of your criticisms in turn, because I don't want to get drawn into another long back-and-forth argument with someone on these forums. I will, however, point out that in most cases, you focused on just one or two words in the sentences you quoted, and often misrepresented, misunderstood, or ignored the context of what I said. The last quote is a perfect example; you argued the exact same point that I was originally making.

 

Now, by all means, go on debating an issue that will never be settled to anyone's satisfaction. I'm not going to stop you.

 

*sits back, and waits for the inevitable moment when someone takes the argument too far and the topic gets locked*

[krunch717171]

hey ya'll

have not seen this on the blog

so I thought I would post

 

NEXT DLC infoi

 

The next DLC will be called Dragonborn and it will be set on the island of Solstheim.

The main locations you will be able to visit are Raven Rock, Miraak Temple, Castle Karstaag and a Telvanni tower (N.B.: Not the Telvanni Tower seen in Morrowind in Vivec, but one like this).

There will be some new armor types, Bonemold, Chitin, Nordic and Stalhrim each having heavy and light classifications.

Out of these new materials, you will be able to craft new types items out of two of them, namely Stalhrim and Nordic.

Spears will be added along with an array of new creatures/automotons, Riekling, Scrib, Netch, Boar, Benthic Lurker, Ballista Centurion, and something with an internal name of HMDaedra, quite possibly referring to Hermaeus Mora since it lists his plane of oblivion, Apocrypha. You will also be able to ride dragons and be in combat while mounted on one.

 

This is what the quest header for Dragonborn Quests will look like, and this is what the compass markers look like for the new locations.

From the top, clockwise: Telvanni Tower, To Solstheim, Raven Rock, Castle Karstaag, Standing Stones, To Skyrim, Miraak Temple.

 

There will be at least two new tracked stats: Dragonborn Quests Completed, and Stalhrim Items Crafted

 

You will travel to Solstheim via a boat, much like you did in Bloodmoon, although this time, it looks like you may at least get a partial visual boat ride.

The Telvanni tower has float up and down animations, so no levitation it seems.

Dragon riding will take place in its own world space

 

Mounted combat looks like it's getting an improvement with the ability to cast spells while mounted, tihs isn't necessarily a Dragonborn only thing though!

 

It appears that Update 1.8 readies Skyrim for PS3 D

 

 

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1419724-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-26/

[WatchMeGoing]

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you or anything, just wanted to point out that your attempt to be the sensible adult isn't really called for in this discussion.

 

Being sensible and mature is called for in any discussion.

 

I'm not going to respond to each of your criticisms in turn, because I don't want to get drawn into another long back-and-forth argument with someone on these forums. I will, however, point out that in most cases, you focused on just one or two words in the sentences you quoted, and often misrepresented, misunderstood, or ignored the context of what I said. The last quote is a perfect example; you argued the exact same point that I was originally making.

 

Now, by all means, go on debating an issue that will never be settled to anyone's satisfaction. I'm not going to stop you.

 

*sits back, and waits for the inevitable moment when someone takes the argument too far and the topic gets locked*

 

"I will, however, point out that in most cases, you focused on just one or two words in the sentences you quoted, and often misrepresented, misunderstood, or ignored the context of what I said."

Please read your response to the tiny part you quoted from my post and feel silly about yourself.