Highly demotivated after this...

[Deleted54892532User]

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I've been trying to download crap all night, I was up until 3AM from 11 trying to get mods to get back into playing Fallout 4 for the first time in years. New computer, fresh install, haven't messed with Fallout or TES in years, NMM is suddenly this weird Vortex thing. I leave it up all night but being a new computer I forgot to mess with auto sleep so nothing was downloaded and the pathetic download speed means it would take over an hour to finish any of the more serious mods...

 

But why the hell would I wait over an hour to several hours for a mod when so far the system is proving extremely unreliable? fml, the first fifty mods downloaded just fine now all of a sudden nothing works.

 

This new computer has a confusing as hell set up. It has a tiny-ass SSD barely large enough for the OS but everything wants to install to there by default instead of the 2TB HDD, but the HDD seems really fricking slow and took as long to allocate disk space as it did to download Fallout 4 overall, so there's a 5TB external drive that's much faster.

 

I'm pulling my hair out here.

 

And there is no noticeable way to effectively solve the problem, why on EARTH is there not a "RETRY" button on those red errors? Ffs, it says that you should redownload them but it doesn't give you the option to so I have to go back through and search the names all over again to one by one redownload?

 

• Pre-posting update:

https://i.imgur.com/kJi8ymX.png

 

The download chain continued as I wrote/vented and now all these mods worked fine while all those other mods in sequence completely wet the bed.

 

 

ugh.

 

 

(As for the unresolved file conflicts, I really have no idea what I'm looking at. In the past with NMM it conveniently just showed the mod load order and the error icons you can click to see directly what was conflicting with what and sometimes why. But I thought I'd just keep downloading the mods I found and then once they were all in order, since many mods are confusing as hell spider webs of requirements, that some problems would just go away as new mods that they were requiring were added, and then run LOOT just as the only way I know of to see the mod load order now with this new Vortex thing not showing the load order like I'm used to, plus helping to organize the mods appropriately.

But I'm basically treading water here. Having played fallout 4 in the past I can't play it without a good host of mods installed but with the new manager on top of not being up to date while also being unpracticed... It's not being easy.)

[rmm200]

Start here:

 

 

Mods don't have to be downloaded with Vortex. Download them manually, and when they make it successfully, just drag them to the Vortex mod window. This way you won't get upset with Vortex when the download fails.

 

If you have a small SSD and a big disk, make sure you put your game, the mods staging folder, and the Vortex Downloads folder on the big disk.

[Deleted54892532User]

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Surprisingly, the game launched.

 

But then I actually entered the game from the main menu, and everything is black. There is only UI and sounds.

fml

https://i.imgur.com/fTO6pqQ.png

And when I start a new game, it's upside down. Edit: Though also black after you leave the mirror.

Ffs, all this just because I wanted decent outfits with heels. Friggin spider webs of dependencies.

 

 

I'll watch that video, thanks.

[AugustaCalidia]

@KingMead

 

If you would like to go back to NMM, you can find it here: https://github.com/Nexus-Mods/Nexus-Mod-Manager/releases. Vortex is an entirely new mod manager from Nexus Mods. It is not an updated NMM. Nexus Mods stopped supporting NMM several years ago.

[Deleted54892532User]

@KingMead

 

If you would like to go back to NMM, you can find it here: https://github.com/Nexus-Mods/Nexus-Mod-Manager/releases. Vortex is an entirely new mod manager from Nexus Mods. It is not an updated NMM. Nexus Mods stopped supporting NMM several years ago.

 

I appreciate the link, and that makes a lot of sense, it not being intended to feel like NMM in that case, since it's not. But that said, it's effectively in practice the new / Updated NMM as it's overtaken its function and site integration so I need to work with it instead.

[rmm200]

You have plugins (ESPs, ESMs, etc), and you have Mods (Collections of plugins and loose files).

Plugins very clearly show load order. Just make sure you have load order selected as a displayable column. Click the Actions gear to select what columns you want displayed.

Click "Load Order" to sort the list up or down. Click "Name" to sort it by name instead.

Mod page shows conflicts. Click any red lightning bolt to show what conflicts. On the panel that opens, it can show you individual files. Last file loaded is the only one the game sees. Don't blame Vortex - that is the way games work. When in doubt - refer to the mod description pages.

[Deleted54892532User]

You have plugins (ESPs, ESMs, etc), and you have Mods (Collections of plugins and loose files).

Plugins very clearly show load order. Just make sure you have load order selected as a displayable column. Click the Actions gear to select what columns you want displayed.

Click "Load Order" to sort the list up or down. Click "Name" to sort it by name instead.

Mod page shows conflicts. Click any red lightning bolt to show what conflicts. On the panel that opens, it can show you individual files. Last file loaded is the only one the game sees. Don't blame Vortex - that is the way games work. When in doubt - refer to the mod description pages.

 

You can't say that it clearly shows load order, when it's not on by default. But thanks!

I minimized this window pop up on the side and found a gear wheel with the plugin order and a dependencies tabs that weren't on by default, so those are now being shown. That helps.

 

I also was able to figure out what it wanted me to do about errors, it was an information overload at first and mildly overwhelming until I started poking at it and figured it out on my own, that it just wants you to make a decision with the small drop down tabs and that most show a suggested action.

 

And the game seems as stable as you can expect a Bethesda game to be, so far. There has been a scary bug once, where there was a audio pop in my headphones and the screen went dark, fading away to a central point in the center of the screen until all visuals was black leaving only audio and the User Interface. Concerned that was a problem with the graphics card...