Doubt regarding Intel and AMD processors

[bruniss]

Hi ppl!

 

I've always being confused about the names of Intel's processors. Rating downwards, which would be the fastest in the market and which the slowest (upt o i5). --Same for AMD, I hear they got some new bulldozers (4.2Ghz!)

 

Thx in advance! :)

[hoofhearted4]

the best CPU on the market when considering price would be Intel's i5-3570k. the 3770k is slightly faster but also much more expensive. only bought when cores are a necessity,

 

as for fastest CPU i would say the i7-3960x or for half the price the i7-3930k. they are very good at stock but their real power comes from their ability to OC. they can easily get to 4.5GHz and up. plus the fact they have 6 Cores and Hyperthreading means they can do damn near well everything.

 

 

as for AMD, their newest Bulldozers, specifically the FX-8350 is the only one worth considering as far as a performance CPU goes. all of AMDs prowess has dropped to their cheaper CPUs. wanna build on a budget? go AMD. wanna be able to do some light gaming without a GPU? go AMD. the new 8350 is also competitive when it comes to using its cores. it keeps up and beats Intel's non hyper threading CPUs when it comes to video rendering and the like. however the Intel CPUs are basically better at everything else. Speed, Synthetic Benchmarks, Gaming, etc.

 

if you have limited cash, look into the 3570k from intel. if you dont have limited cash, i would take a look at the 3930k.

Edited November 15, 2012 by hoofhearted4

[Thor.]

I Myself bought the fx 8350, its worth every penny, not to mention the only 4ghz cpu on the market.

 

http://www.tigerdire...4561&CatId=7339

 

sort of off topic

 

funny they have the same motherboard and cpu in a bundled form http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/thumbsup.gif

 

http://www.tigerdire...381299&csid=_22 its also crossfire 4 way

 

tells how badass the sabertooth motherboards are, its a really good deal if your planning on building from scratch.

Edited November 15, 2012 by Thor.

[hoofhearted4]

not to mention the only 4ghz cpu on the market

 

GHz doesnt mean everything. an old Pentium OCed to 4GHz is still gunna be slower then anything today at 4GHz....the Ivy Bridge Architecture is better and smaller then the Bulldozer Architecture. as such, IB chips are faster at lower clock speeds then their Bulldozer counter parts would be.

 

the 8350 is the best on the market for AMD. and its actually very good at stuff that requires multiple threads, it even beats the 3770 at stock and is probably the best thing on the market for those threaded applications (in its price range at least). however, in gaming and anything that doesnt use multiple threads (such as games and most everything an average user would do), it simply cannot stand up to IB chips. on top of that, the AMD chip is a HUGE power hog when OCing. it can OC slightly more then the IB chips, but at over double the power draw and still not the same speeds (as i said before pure GHz isnt everything)

 

 

Note: if i say Bulldozer when referring to the 8350, please excuse me. its codename is actually Vishera and i keep forgetting that.

[Thor.]

Sigh you can't argue with someone that is biased. Amd is a good deal, runs quiet cool and a care free cpu. What more do you want, plus upgrading is easier to. just like my mobo, as soon as Christmas comes along i can plop it in without even a bios update. And i am currently running a Phenom 2 1100T

 

Why not make a poll so everyone can decide on whats better. http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/teehee.gif

 

 

Good idea http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/blink.gif

Edited November 15, 2012 by Thor.

[hoofhearted4]

Sigh you can't argue with someone that is biased. Amd is a good deal, runs quiet cool and a care free cpu. What more do you want, plus upgrading is easier to. just like my mobo, as soon as Christmas comes along i can plop it in without even a bios update. And i am currently running a Phenom 2 1100T

 

Why not make a poll so everyone can decide on whats better. http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/teehee.gif

 

 

Good idea http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/blink.gif

 

youre accusing everyone of being biased on the matter but you exclude yourself? i acknowledged what the 8350 was better at. it is not better at everything. and to think so is ignorance. in fact its not better at most things. only some things. and those things its better at (multi threaded tasks) are actually a select audience. most people dont need the power for multi threaded tasks.

 

also this isnt about AMD vs Intel. this was about specific chips. i stated what each chips strengths were. AMD is great for the budget builds. better then Intel imo. when i build my parents PC, itll have an AMD CPU in it. but for the higher end market like gamers, Intel takes the cake. if the only answer you can accept is AMD > Intel, then your more biased then me, because at least i can admit the strengths and weaknesses of both parties, even when i find one better then the other. i didnt say anything about Intel vs AMD directly in my previous posts so stop making it into that argument...as of writing this you have already made your poll, but i will not post there as im done with this argument.

 

all that said, if you bought an 8350 over a 3570 or vice versa are you really going to regret it? no probably not. its not like either experience will be leagues ahead or behind one another. the differences between the two only really shine through when really put to the test. like ultra settings or heavy loads and etc. and in those cases as i said, the 8350 pulls ahead in multi threaded tasks, and the 3570 pulls ahead in most everything else.

Edited November 15, 2012 by hoofhearted4

[Thor.]

No i am not accusing everyone of being biased, sigh there is a argument and there is argument that you can't win.

 

So i did the next best thing and created a poll.

 

For someone who says he's open to other branches of the market, you shure sound one sided, me i can be considered biased, because i have nothing to hide.

Edited November 15, 2012 by Thor.

[Dan3345]

No i am not accusing everyone of being biased, sigh there is a argument and there is argument that you can't win.

 

So i did the next best thing and created a poll.

 

For someone who says he's open to other branches of the market, you shure sound one sided, me i can be considered biased, because i have nothing to hide.

You really need to stop doing that. It seems anyone on this hardware board with a differing opinion than yours is biased.

 

Anyways I was going to agree with Hoof, ghz aren't everything. AMD has yet to learn that core count is also not everything, as evident from the FX and phenom series. Thor have you ever wondered why Intel doesn't offer a cheap six core processor? It's not because they can't, it's because its not worth doing. The performance ratio is so off that adding more cores is just adding to redundancy. AMD hasn't figured this out, or maybe they have and they are marketing to that new comer to PC's that thinks that more processors means the thing is faster. And I don't mean this to sound rude, but you are really going to start rubbing a few of us the wrong way. The only one who looks incredibly biased here is you.

 

You really should stop confusing statistical facts for bias.

 

Bruniss Hoof answered your question but I have to ask. Are you asking because your planning to buy an Intel CPU?

[bruniss]

Thank you all for replying!

I never thought my simple question would raise such an enlighting argument, but it was quite educational.

I was because in the near future I'd like to change my FX 6100 for a better one, and wether I should change my mobo if I were to go with intel.

Right now I'm disappointdd with my processor, even OC'd to 4.5 ghz it runs my games slow, creating a huge bottleneck with my GTX 680. I made the mistake of buying it just because it was on sale.

So the I5 3570 huh? And compared to the 8350, how much worse/better is it?

[Erik005]

If you already have a FX6100 your best option for an upgrade is the 8350, because with an Intel processor you need to get a new motherboard.