Lachdonin Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) . Plus, the swords of the ancient world weren't especially impressive. Not true at all. Swords have been the most versitile weapon. From the Xiphos, to the Kilidge, to the more reknowned Katana (which, in fact, may have been inferior to the Slavic Kilidge) they have been the cornerstone of military technology for thousands of years, and with good reason. Most of the modern issues with the effectivness of ancient swords comes not from their design its self, but our total inability to recreate the specific alloys used in their forging. For instance, we are, currently, completely incapable of recreating Greek Bronze. What we dig up has more in common with the properties of some low grades of modern steel than modern bronze. Because our metals are of such a lower quality, our replicas cannot accurately gauge the capabilities of their ancient counterparts. Even then, a replica Xiphos can easily cut off an arm in a single blow. Even then, as anyone who has watched Deadliest Warrior will tell you, the style of combat used by the most famous Spear-Warriors, the Spartans, actually meant that their shield was their deadliest weapon... But i digress.. Spears are really at their most useful in large volumes. Sword vs Spear, one on one, sword usually wins out. Edited November 18, 2012 by Lachdonin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnubisRaven Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 If they're bringing spears and reiklings and all that back, could they also bring back devil and demon weapons? Gosh, I loved my Devil Spear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted3507349User Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 On the other hand, if a guy wielding a sword goes up against someone who's proficient with a staff the sword-wielder has a serious problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passb Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 On the other hand, if a guy wielding a sword goes up against someone who's proficient with a staff the sword-wielder has a serious problem. The same argument could be made in the inverse with a proficient swordsman up against a staff/spear wielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaktoastTheSandwichTopper Posted November 18, 2012 Author Share Posted November 18, 2012 the weapon is irrelevant it's the one who wields it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imperistan Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Indeed, a swordsman and a spearman of relative equal skill can stalemate each other consistently. The swordman's objective of getting inside the spear's range is countered by the spearmans objective of keeping the swordsman at bay. And if we throw other weapons into the mix then it can get very interesting. For instance, a man wielding a spear with a sword hanging from his wrist can effectively counter the swordsmans objective should it be achieved. And then the swordsman could have a shield which would counter that, and that point it either becomes a bout to regain position with the spear or go through basic sword/shield vs sword combat. And so on. But anyway, many things seem to point to spears being playable, or at least mod-able to be playable. That spears are in at all shows that in time they could eventually be made playable if they aren't already. I would certainly doubt that the Rieklings have their spear weapons integrated into their model and that they're animated to have it seem like they're actually using a separate weapon. Seems like a lot of effort to put spears onto one creature only. Edited November 18, 2012 by imperistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werevixen Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Seems like a lot of effort to put spears onto one creature only. Crude spears are actually dang single to make though. Take a long, thin cillinder, put a slightly tapering cilinder on it, then an 8-faced diamond on the top. Finish with a short, wide cilinder and a ball at the base for a pommel if you want one. Edited November 18, 2012 by Werevixen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainia Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 ya but from an animation point of view, it would be an awful lot of work & coding, l think. At least, that's what l got from Imperistan's post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzburg Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I've wanted to see spears in Skyrim since day one, because it just doesn't make sense that there aren't any. It's the oldest and most basic weapon in history. Monkeys have managed to invent the spear. It would be a real shame not to include one-handed spears. The one-handed spear and shield were one of the most powerful weapon combinations of the ancient world far superior to the sword. Due to military tactics, mostly. Plus, the swords of the ancient world weren't especially impressive. Gladius... The romans did use spear auxiliarry as well as throwing spears but they are famous for using the gladius and scutum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imperistan Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 ya but from an animation point of view, it would be an awful lot of work & coding, l think. At least, that's what l got from Imperistan's post. Indeed. We already know there are actual, dedicated spear animations of some kind (from the 1.8 update) but I can't imagine that they'd go through all that trouble for one specific creature that all in all isn't that special other than being low level axe-fodder. (Granted in Morrowind they were tough little buggers, but still. Its not like the Rieklings are equivalent to dragons, which could reasonably have specific animation sets dedicated to them, and did) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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