Dan3345 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Ok ok, I know this is a stupid question... I have a P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3. Key words being Z68, and Gen 3. Apparently P8Z68's are entirely incompatible with ivy bridge without a bios update. They also lack native usb 3.0 support, and they have no PCIe 3.0 slots. The caveat? Well according to the all knowing google, the Gen 3 boards however appear to be identical to Z77 in every way but the name. So is this true? I want to upgrade soon to an i7 3770k, but I would like the most compatibility possible. I believe Gen 3 boards do have native usb 3.0 support. Physically I am backing this up by the 19 pin box header on my board, but that doesn't necessarily mean it is native I suppose. Z68 boards usually lacked PCIe 3.0, again my board has three slots. So, I'm not missing that either. I heard something about Vitru MVP or Lucid something on Z77's, but other than that, it doesn't look like I'm missing anything. I even got my BIOS updated for it. So what exactly are the benefits of Z77? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor. Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) have you checked out some of the sabertooth boards, they are probably the best boards on the market, Especially Asus. Example, expensive but worth every penny. mines the sabertooth 990fx http://www.tigerdire...8753&CatId=7381 I build pc's for a living so any build is no none issue, even if its Intel. Edited November 23, 2012 by Thor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan3345 Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 have you checked out some of the sabertooth boards, they are probably the best boards on the market, Especially Asus. Example, expensive but worth every penny. mines the sabertooth 990fx http://www.tigerdire...8753&CatId=7381 I build pc's for a living so any build is no none issue, even if its Intel.Thanks Thor but that board is an x79 and works on socket 2011. The likes of which costs around $400-$500 for a compatible CPU, and is not compatible with the 3770k. ;) That said Asus boards are excellent and if I was going to upgrade I have decided it would be to this board. It lacks the Q-Code LED, but this is fine. Every single slot and area has a hardware OK LED to warn against any failures. And honestly thats all I need to know if something is wrong. Having an exact code to tell me that the OS won't shut down properly and turn off the board is just digging into minutia. Not to mention redundancy as clearly I can tell when something like that has occurred. The big benefit for me is the two USB 3.0 internal headers. I really do need two and so thats a big plus. I also like the PWM design. Its 12+1+1+4, which will be good for the overclocking I intend to do. My one qualm and persistant fear about it, is that it lacks a second RJ-45 female connector. I have two on my board, one for my wall ethernet to come into the computer, and another to go out form the computer to my wireless router so my wireless devices get internet. Also so I can remote control my home theater. I believe with the wifi built in this removes the necessity for a wireless router all together. Or maybe the wireless emitter only works as a receiver and does not transmit wifi signals.. Though that would be odd but not unheard of. Also it lacks bluetooth though I don't care about this as much.. I bought my board because I thought bluetooth would be useful. But the damn receiver is so finicky and so weak, its unusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor. Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) Yup Asus can't be beat, this is the mother of all boards which i own, except the higher end models which where at the time out of my price range. http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=618836&CatId=7246 http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/thumbsup.gif Edited November 23, 2012 by Thor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik005 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I don't think your missing anything with the z68 chipset. You would just waste money if you would buy a z77 board, you already have one of the best socket 1155 boards available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMod Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) Just update the BIOS now, before replacing the CPU. But why? Don't you already have 2500K? It's a pretty pointless upgrade, you won't gain anything unless you use special engineering and professional graphics applications. If you need something to spend on, the payback will be much better from another SSD, or a better sound card plus peripherals, or other components. Edited November 23, 2012 by FMod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoofhearted4 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 just cause we were talking about mobos. the best one on the market i would say is this one. (though not necessarily the z77 one) most benchmark rigs use it. a lot of reviewers use it, including Tom from OC3D. on topic, why do you want a 3770k? if you just bought the 2500k not too long ago (which can actually OC higher then the 3770k) why do you want to upgrade? unless you NEED the cores? and even then i would almost say get a 2600/2700k. then there is no need to switch out mobos (which i dont think youd need to do anyways) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalikka Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 If you already have 2500k, forget about the upgrade. UD3HCant go wrong. Z77 Extreme4 would also be good.But when you already have a good mobo, why change it? Just update the BIOS. Virtu MVP, if you want to know.Finally managed to make it work with the latest update (3570k+HD7950wf). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMod Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) There's hardly any point using Virtu with a card like 680. It's a hack designed to inflate the reported frame count, mostly by copy-pasting the same frame multiple times. I've seen it, there is no actual gain, not for a gaming PC. Just hook your display up to the 680 and use it straight up, no "adaptive vsync", no MVP, it works best that way. Edit: Gigabyte - can't recommend it. Less reliable, known for BIOS crashes, generally buggier than others, would be OK for cheap boards, but they aren't. Edited November 23, 2012 by FMod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan3345 Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 I'm planning on using the old board along with some other parts I already have for a folding rig. I have all the parts for it, I just need the board and CPU. And while yes I could just buy some cheap board and a cheaper CPU to throw into it, I feel like burning some cash. Call me crazy or whatever. :confused: kalikka thanks for the article on Virtu MVP. Hard to find information on exactly what it does. In truth, I could just replace the board. And keep the CPU and throw in my spare 2600k. Or use the 2600k for myself, but I got it for free from a friend who thought it was broken (Yes I told him when it wasn't but by then he had already bought a new CPU), so I would like to put it in the folding rig and then buy a 3770k for myself. Also I am really...I guess the word is unhappy, with my motherboard. As stated in the original post it's missing some things I didn't realize I needed until they weren't there. So at the least I will be replacing the board. Anyways, yeah I know I am throwing money away, but thanks for the help :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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