Paratrooper508 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 I am new to all this myself. Vortex had an update the other day but I had to go install it from nexus. I thought it would just tell me it needed updating but maybe that is the way it works.it was working earlier this evening and now it just won't. EA grade software all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indio21 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 It has been an uphill learning curve for me and I am not pc illiterate either, lol. Vortex will allow you to adjust the LO on both tabs but probably best to only adjust the plugins tab. Vortex will sort LO according to LOOT's master list, but I have learned this is a set list and the loot team does not update that often. Meaning vortex's ability in LO setting ends there. Vortex will only align the plugins according to that list no matter how old it is. After that on the plugin's tab you click and drag the "Dependencies" category icon up or down to the corresponding mod. A window will pop up for you to set the rule when you release from the drag, to set how it loads. After you click sort and if it does not violate the LOOT list it will move it. If not you have to look into the cyclic rule to see how it needs to load according to other mods. This may include changing the "Group" the plugin belongs to. Groups is another option for organizing LO, but one really needs to understand all this before doing so. You need the patches for mods to work together that are not designed to, so no way around not having them but remove all the mods they conflict. LO is very requiring as I am understanding. The mods like RDO, AI, etc all have specific placements the mod author recommends in regards to other mods and or LO. You need to go read all that info on the mods chosen and arrange them accordingly. I know RDO has a good amount of info pertaining to it and other mods and Quinn's tips on the patches and such. All this helps to place the mods accordingly in vortex. Also one has to look over the posts tab for more pertaining info whether or not the initial description says too. I have noticed mod authors will include info on the mod there and if they have an articles tab on the mod too. I believe that is what it is called. I have just learned to look over everything offered on a mod page. Even scanning over the posts tab on a mod can lead to info not on the description page. As an example someone could have noticed a conflict if said mod loads before another and wrote the author there. The author may have replied with a work around or an update on if and or when it will be fixed. Personnally I love playing Skyrim and not playing is not an option for me, so I just keep reading and learning. When all else fails remember GamerPoets philosophy on it is supposed to be fun, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratrooper508 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 if I ever get it to load again I'm just going to disable QUISSIP altogether. Vortex doesn't have a convenient way for sorting those things, when you have literally hundreds of plugins (because of differences in naming conventions you may be scrolling a long time, just to misclick and have to start over. I'm not doing that for dozens of mods. I'll just start uninstalling if I have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indio21 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 if I ever get it to load again I'm just going to disable QUISSIP altogether. Vortex doesn't have a convenient way for sorting those things, when you have literally hundreds of plugins (because of differences in naming conventions you may be scrolling a long time, just to misclick and have to start over. I'm not doing that for dozens of mods. I'll just start uninstalling if I have to.It is a PITA granted, but I believe the only way to do it. Even in MO I believe that is the way LO gets arranged. Once it is done vortex keeps the rules you make so unless you loose it you are fine. Like I said, I am new to modding. I have just been reading and learning for weeks now putting everything together. I am trying to learn exactly how important patch placement is. Reading Quinn's tips they should be exactly after the last mod they afflict, yet vortex makes this a real pita to do! At the same time I also consider that if that is the exact needed placement for a patch to work, the LOOT and Vortex team would have addressed it after this amount of time, I'd hope. Hopefully an experienced modder will chime in and we can both learn. Mods just make Skyrim to rich and alive not to play without them now that I been exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratrooper508 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 I'm trying to find someone who's tech savvy enough to give me concise directions on what memory settings etc to use for my setup. Like do I need to change the virtual memory? Right now everything on the D drive is going at a snail's pace and there's no logical reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indio21 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Are you using another SSD for the OS? I do not believe one needs to set the virtual memory on an alternate drive from the OS. Is your D drive on a SATA connection? Why do you think it is not loading fast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratrooper508 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 Are you using another SSD for the OS? I do not believe one needs to set the virtual memory on an alternate drive from the OS. Is your D drive on a SATA connection? Why do you think it is not loading fast?I dont know what any of that means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indio21 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) Alright, is your pc manufactured (ex. Dell) or did you have someone build it? By what you had mentioned thus far I assumed you are using two drives. One for your OS (Operating System) Windows, etc and another, your D drive, for your game drive. Is that correct? If you think you are having problems with the alternate drive might be best to check the drivers for it. If you are using Windows OS the driver update tool sucks and only works partially. Best to go to the drive manufactures website and get it yourself. Edited February 11, 2020 by Indiao21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratrooper508 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 I have a computer with 2 drives. The links to my msinfo etc are in the op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indio21 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 The links to my msinfo etc are in the opNow I don't know what any of that means, lol. That is the best I got for you. You don't seem to answer all my questions. I am not sure how you know about VM and not what an OS is. Guessing reading online. A drive not containing the OS is just a storage area. Unless the driver it is using is conflicting with the OS it just stores info. So an outdated or corrupted driver for that drive is the only thing that could cause it to function improperly. The connections I am referring to are internal and would be set up correctly unless you had it built by someone not knowing what they are doing. I built my pc some time ago now so am not sure if they could or even can use the old connector, name escapes me at the moment, now a days. So that is only a factor if you had it built. The rest is in your LO I am assuming. One thing I do for sure about modding sse is that one just does not go randomly picking mods and downloading them into a mod manager to press a button that magically makes them all work together. If that is your assumption when your pressing sort on vortex you will be sadly disappointed. There is a real learning curve to it all and it requires a ton of reading and research. Just having a powerful pc only gives you the ability to push that amount of mods, it does not accomplish the intellect on how to make them work together. It is like Windows, if the programming behind the button for your email did not tell it to load that email program it would do nothing. By arranging LO you are telling it which program to load, and the next, and the next, and so on. As I understand a mod manager has yet to built with that kind of intuitiveness, I will say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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