Crash in imperial city

[FishBiter]

So I have the strangest CTD issue in the imperial city. It's been plaguing me throughout this install of oblivion. It doesn't happen right away on a new game; but shortly after a new game starts ( like say I leave, and come back a few hours later ) I get guaranteed crashed in the imperial city. It's not even the whole market district, it's just one end, like if I even look at that side of the market, boom CTD; as long as I'm facing the other side of the market it's okay.

 

note: this crash may also be happening in other parts of the imperial city, I've just been going to the market to test if it happens; when it first started happening I did notice that it was happening in other parts of the city as well

 

No clue what could be causing it... thought I had it nailed at one point, but then it happened again.

 

It seems to happen at any point 1 day after I start a new game ( 1 day of game time ). The way I've been testing it is, I start a new game, go through the alternate start stuff, walk to market district, then I coc testinghall, them fast travel from there to skingrad, where I wait for 24 hours. Then when I fast travel back to the market district, the crash happens.

 

Here's the information I got for ya, let me know if you need anything else. Thank you in advance to anyone who spends there time trying to help me figure this out.

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
02  Lovers with PK.esm
03  LoversCreature.esm
04  Toaster Says Share v3.esm
05  x117race.esm
06  Chanpon.esm
07  RealisticLeveling.esm
08  LoversCreature.esp
09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.2]
0A  UOPS Additional Changes.esp
0B  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
0C  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0D  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0E  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.1]
0F  the punished girlbox.esp
10  VipCxj_AirSystem.esp
11  Crowded Cities 15.esp  [Version modified]
12  DLCHorseArmor.esp
13  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
14  DLCOrrery.esp  [Version modified]
15  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
16  DLCVileLair.esp  [Version modified]
17  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
18  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp  [Version modified]
19  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
1A  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
**  DMRA Stock Clothing Skimpy.esp
1B  DMRA Stock Armor Skimpy.esp
1C  DMRA  Skimpy Armor Expanded.esp
**  DMRA Stock Robe Skimpy Replacer.esp
1D  DLCThievesDen.esp  [Version modified]
1E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
1F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
20  Cannibalism.esp
21  Abriael_Human.esp
22  HTBMondsteinShop.esp
23  DLCFrostcrag.esp
24  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
25  Knights.esp  [Version modified]
26  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2]
27  MONSTERGIRL-ANGELICALLIANCE.esp
28  MONSTERGIRL-NECROMANCER MOON.esp
29  MONSTERGIRL-DEMON HIVE.esp
2A  MONSTERGIRL-AMAZON.esp
2B  FuroGeneratorTrap.esp
2C  RMDailyIncomeV2.esp
2D  LoversAphrodisia.esp
2E  LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp
2F  LoversFSE.esp
30  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
31  LoversHooker.esp  [Version 2.2]
32  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp
33  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
34  LoversRaperS.esp
35  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 90]
36  LoversBitch.esp
37  Lovers with PK Extender.esp  [Version 2.4.3]
**  LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp
**  LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp
38  LoversAdultYield.esp
39  LoversCalm.esp
3A  LoversMagic.esp
3B  SetBody.esp
3C  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]
3D  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]
3E  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  Specialanims.esp
3F  zzEstrus.esp
40  DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
**  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
++  x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
41  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp
42  x117race.esp
++  x117Race ENG Race.esp
43  Lop-ears Elf.esp
44  Neo_Ahrum_race.esp
45  Synx.esp
46  Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
++  TentaclePlant.esp
47  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
48  LoversMB2.esp
49  Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp
4A  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
4B  Lovers3dorgasm.esp
4C  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
4D  xeoice.esp
4E  Alternate Start.esp
4F  xeoex.esp
50  ShowHideAmulet.esp
51  69 wearable cawk.esp
52  Apachii_Wigs_MaleFemale.esp

 

 

 

xeoex.esp is "The L World" version.

 

OBSE plugins ( these are the .dlls in my OBSE plugins folder)

 

Elys_USV.dll

OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll

obse_jail_fix.dll

OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue.dll

sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll

vipckx_plugin_collection.dll

weOCPS.dll

 

 

 

Using the latest OBSE, OBMM, and wrye bash. All DLCs.

[Nephenee13]

Well for one, you've got a bunch of stuff below the Bashed Patch which needs to go above it. Also you may want to consider updating to my DMRA replacer, which has a number of improvements over the original.

 

Anyway, without way more detail as to what prompts the crash, there's not much that can be said.

[FishBiter]

Well for one, you've got a bunch of stuff below the Bashed Patch which needs to go above it. Also you may want to consider updating to my DMRA replacer, which has a number of improvements over the original.

 

Anyway, without way more detail as to what prompts the crash, there's not much that can be said.

 

 

The crash is caused by certain npcs in the xeoex.esp from The L World. I know this now because I went in and deleted about 20 entries for NPCs in that esp, which caused the crashes to stop. WHat I did was I went to the TES wiki and found a list of npcs that exist in the imperial city and started deleting them from xeoex.esp alphabetically. After about 20 npcs had been deleted, the crash stopped happening.

 

So basically, when one or more of those 20npcs entered the cell I was in, boom CTD. Problem is I still don't know why they're causing that. I've reinstalled all the requirements for the L World several times over, and it hasn't changed anything.

 

 

I'll go ahead and get DMRA complete since you mentioned it.

Edited November 26, 2012 by FishBiter

[FishBiter]

Okay... now that's just damn weird.

 

So I went ahead and installed your DMRA complete, right... you know, figuring I might as well do that since the armor in the pics does look like an improvement...

So on a lark, I went in the game and did another test... you know... new game, head to market district, set timescale really high and wait around for the crash to happen.

 

After a week of waiting and spinning my camera around... no crash. o_O So apparently... installing DMRA complete fixed it.

 

 

 

So my question is... how in the hell does the exact person I need with the exact mod I need to install just happen to wander into the thread I posted less than 2 hours after I posted it? No seriously, this is crazy, this is downright I'm-seriously-wondering-if-I've-lost-it-and-am-just-imagining-this-while-sitting-in-the-loony-bin crazy. It's not as if I typed "Oh hey btw this somehow involves DMRA" in the title... >:|

 

So yeah, thank you for your mind-shatteringly helpful response :D

 

 

 

So now... why did this solve it? I have a theory... L World changes all characters female, so perhaps there is a male character with some unique armor that doesn't have a female version, so when the character became female the game tried to pull up that reference and got nothing so went splat? Probably some sort of unplayable armor I would imagine.... armor that your DMRA complete had a female version of; I did install the colorwheel overhaul meshes, so I would imagine that it was in there. Sound reasonable?

 

 

Thank you again you mysterious helpful person you D:

[Nephenee13]

Not sure, but you do also need to move that stuff (especially Xeoex) up above the Bashed Patch. Have it load last, right before the Bashed Patch. As it is, its wiping out a lot of the change that the UOP is making, among other things.

[FishBiter]

L World instructions actually say to load it after the bashed patch... and looking at things in TESEdit confirms that has to be done, otherwise the bashed patch wipes out many of the L World changes. For once, I can say I actually did read the Read Me :P