Drakinor1 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Currently I am getting between 10-20 fps outside and 25-50 fps inside. I dropped from ultra with 4x AA and 16x Ani to High with no AA and 8x Ani with no effect on fps at all. I have tried Razer Gamebooster and FPS Booster v1.1 found on skyrim nexus also with no effect. I am running out of ideas on how to improve the performance since none of the typical methods seem to be having any effect at all. Am I doing something wrong here? Am I missing a step somewhere? What would cause the low fps if its not being affected by ENB, AA, or Anisotorpic Filtering? Please geniuses of the nexus forums help me! If you need any more information just ask and I will answer to the best of my ability. [system Specifications]AMD A6-3650 APU with Radeon HD Graphics (4 CPU's) @ ~2.6 GHzAMD Radeon HD 6670 at 1GB VRAM with Catalyst 12.1 drivers (usually don't use previews)8GB RAM (not sure what type but probably DDR3)Up to date DX11 [bOSS Log]These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action. Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveDawnguard.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveTravellersOfSkyrim.esm ActiveSPIKE.esm ActiveJSwords.esm ActiveWarning: Original file was released before the CK (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. 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Read it here.Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:Note: [Actor]Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000Note: [Combat]Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0SkyRe_Combat.esp ActiveSkyRe_EncounterZones.esp ActiveSkyRe_EnemyAI.esp ActiveSkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}SkyRe_StandingStones.esp ActiveSkyRe_hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ActiveStavesofSkyrim.esp ActiveSlightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp ActivemoveitLWT.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ActiveCCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp ActiveSkyRe_Races.esp ActiveAnimated Weapon Enchants.esp ActiveWATER.esp ActiveBlacksmithforge water fix.esp ActiveCartographers Map Markers.esp ActiveBashed Patch, 0.esp Active The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed. D13NightEyeSpell.esp Active [ENB]V0.119Project ENB Pure DoF and SSAO off I tried RCRN to see if it was ENB and got LOWER fps (about 5-10 outside) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted4547977User Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 -update your driver (it is true, 12.1?)-depend of resolution, HD 6670 can run Skyrim with High setting (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:System_Requirements)-some ENB is too heavy, try to turn off SSAO at enbseries.ini (and DOF if you want more FPS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakinor1 Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) -update your driver (it is true, 12.1?)-depend of resolution, HD 6670 can run Skyrim with High setting (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:System_Requirements)-some ENB is too heavy, try to turn off SSAO at enbseries.ini (and DOF if you want more FPS) I have SSAO and DoF off, SSAO causes weird "shadows" around actors for me and DoF just isn't something that suits my taste. I play at 1600x900 which is my monitors native resolution. The thing that gets me is altering the settings had NO effect on the framerate. I would imagine Ultra would have a lower FPS than High. I know that my card is far from the best out there but its not a bad card either. It used to run smoother (just got back into playing skyrim again lol) and the while it doesn't feel like very low FPS it can be a little choppy which is annoying. I also have skylighting off in ENB knowing that skylighting, DoF and SSAO (which doesnt work on ATI cards anyway) are the biggest performance hogs. The other oddity, I thought at least, is that RCRN caused and even lower FPS as I thought RCRN was less of a performance hit than ENB. EDIT: Forgot to add video driver info: Driver Package Version: 9.002-120928m-149042C-ATICatalyst Version: 12.10Provider: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.2D Driver Version: 8.01.01.1266Direct 3D Version: 9.14.10.0926OpenGL Version: 6.14.10.11931AMD VISION Engine Control Center Version: 2012.0928.1532.26058 [system Info] OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home PremiumVersion 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601Other OS Description Not AvailableOS Manufacturer Microsoft CorporationSystem Manufacturer Hewlett-PackardSystem Model p7-1234System Type x64-based PCProcessor AMD A6-3650 APU with Radeon HD Graphics, 2600 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)BIOS Version/Date AMI 7.18, 3/26/2012SMBIOS Version 2.7Windows Directory C:\windowsSystem Directory C:\windows\system32Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1Locale United StatesHardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7601.17514"Time Zone Mountain Standard TimeInstalled Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GBTotal Physical Memory 7.99 GBAvailable Physical Memory 5.48 GBTotal Virtual Memory 16.0 GBAvailable Virtual Memory 12.5 GBPage File Space 7.99 GBPage File C:\pagefile.sys My cards shows in the Medium/High section of your link. I have high settings, draw distances halved except for grass which is full, AA OFF and Anisotorpic filtering at 8 so its below the standard high settings and even that had no impact on FPS Edited November 28, 2012 by Drakinor1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davycrockett Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 these APU's are a new breed thats yet to be tamed ,have you updated the bios and or chipset driver package ? the wrong ROM file for the bios will cause noticable performance loss as does the wrong chipset drivers ,if you have updated or changed either check that you havn't done it wrong . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakinor1 Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) these APU's are a new breed thats yet to be tamed ,have you updated the bios and or chipset driver package ? the wrong ROM file for the bios will cause noticable performance loss as does the wrong chipset drivers ,if you have updated or changed either check that you havn't done it wrong . I never considered that lol, no I have not updated the drivers for the chipset or the BIOS. I will definitely try that. I know my way around computers but the processor is something I have (well in my opinion) basic knowledge only. I understand the speed, multi cores sidebus etc but not the different types. I will update if that helps. Thank you! EDIT: It appears up to date but not sure how to check BIOS Edited November 28, 2012 by Drakinor1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakinor1 Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 these APU's are a new breed thats yet to be tamed ,have you updated the bios and or chipset driver package ? the wrong ROM file for the bios will cause noticable performance loss as does the wrong chipset drivers ,if you have updated or changed either check that you havn't done it wrong . I never considered that lol, no I have not updated the drivers for the chipset or the BIOS. I will definitely try that. I know my way around computers but the processor is something I have (well in my opinion) basic knowledge only. I understand the speed, multi cores sidebus etc but not the different types. I will update if that helps. Thank you! EDIT: It appears up to date but not sure how to check BIOS Well this helped: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/8005Now im 25-30 fps outside and hang at 30 inside (limited to 30) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginnyfizz Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Seriously, get rid of the ENB series altogether. I use Climates of Tamriel with the RCRN Injector (not with the RCRN plugins activated of course since I have CoT)and Enhanced Lights and FX. I get no performance hit. IDK, these ENB seem to cause a fair few problems on ATI setups and crippling frame rate can be one of them - I have a 6970 and still won't use an ENB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakinor1 Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) Seriously, get rid of the ENB series altogether. I use Climates of Tamriel with the RCRN Injector (not with the RCRN plugins activated of course since I have CoT)and Enhanced Lights and FX. I get no performance hit. IDK, these ENB seem to cause a fair few problems on ATI setups and crippling frame rate can be one of them - I have a 6970 and still won't use an ENB.I may try that, I tried just straight up RCRN 36 after removing all the conflicting mods and it was WAY too dark (day not night I like my dark night) and my FPS plumeted to the single digits outside:P Maybe if I just use parts of it. TY EDIT: I am having trouble finding this injector version, any ideas where to find it now? EDIT2: I think I figured out what you meant, using the FXAA injector with old RCRN settings but not including the .esp or data files. Edited November 29, 2012 by Drakinor1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginnyfizz Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yes, you can copy across all the files from RCRN including the Data as long as you do not activate the plugins, activate CoT and Enhanced Lights and FX plugins instead. You'll still be able to use the RCRN customizer. And don't forget The Imaginator as well. If you check out some of my screens you can see what good looking visuals I get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakinor1 Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yes, you can copy across all the files from RCRN including the Data as long as you do not activate the plugins, activate CoT and Enhanced Lights and FX plugins instead. You'll still be able to use the RCRN customizer. And don't forget The Imaginator as well. If you check out some of my screens you can see what good looking visuals I get.Very nice ill add the Data as well. I love imaginator, great for ingame customization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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