vmh1029 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Long story short: I used to have some save games that wouldn't open. So after disabling a lot of mods, I noticed that after disabling Crash fixes (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725) alone, my save games suddenly opened (only if I had Safety Load enabled not only for loading screens for a weird reason), but my game became very buggy and crashed easily. I tried making a new save game, with mods as well and the same thing happended. Only way to open any save game or even make a new game is by NOT HAVING crash fixes enabled. I used to have 250+ mods installed, and I have removed a lot of mods. I seriously have no idea what is happening. Here is my load order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 SexLab.esm 7 7 SexLabAroused.esm 8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 9 9 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm 10 a hdtHighHeel.esm 11 b CreatureFramework.esm 12 c ApachiiHairMales.esm 13 d ApachiiHair.esm 14 e ApachiiHairFemales.esm 15 f RaceCompatibility.esm 16 10 SGHairPackBase.esm 17 11 Bochu Race Redone.esm 18 12 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 19 13 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 20 14 OblivionHairPackAIO.esm 21 15 RSkyrimChildren.esm 22 16 High Poly Head.esm 23 17 HighResTexturePack01.esp 24 18 HighResTexturePack02.esp 25 19 HighResTexturePack03.esp 26 1a Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 27 1b Cutting Room Floor.esp 28 1c UIExtensions.esp 29 1d AddItemMenu2.esp 30 1e KS Hairdo's.esp 31 1f LindsMerEyes.esp 32 20 RaceMenu.esp 33 21 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 34 22 SkyUI.esp 35 23 SummonsLion.esp 36 24 Hired Guards.esp 37 25 ElMensUnderwear.esp 38 26 [sAM] Forsworn Loincloth Refit.esp 39 27 SOS - Chainmail Underwear.esp 40 28 RaceMenuPluginSAM.esp 41 29 Inner Collection.esp 42 2a XPMSE.esp 43 2b VioLens.esp 44 2c SexLabTools.esp 45 2d SexLabMatchMaker.esp 46 2e SexLab Extra Voices.esp 47 2f SexLabDefeat.esp 48 30 SexLabWerewolves.esp 49 31 SexLabWerewolvesMB.esp 50 32 SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp 51 33 Brawl Bugs CE.esp 52 34 MainMenu.esp 53 35 Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp 54 36 SkyrimReputation_S2011.esp 55 37 FNIS_PCEA2.esp 56 38 FNIS.esp 57 39 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 58 3a SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 59 3b SexLab TDFAP - Requiem Blue Aura Fix.esp 60 3c LoksEyes.esp 61 3d Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp 62 3e ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 63 3f ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 64 40 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp 65 41 SLAnimLoader.esp 66 42 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 67 43 MojoBandits.esp 68 44 SLALAnimObj.esp 69 45 AnubAnimObj.esp 70 46 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 71 47 SLAL_K4Anims.esp 72 48 NibblesAnimObjects.esp 73 49 AOS.esp 74 4a dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 75 4b AOS2_EBT Patch.esp 76 4c Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 77 4d Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 78 4e MilkyObj.esp 79 4f M2M_Animations.esp 80 50 The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp 81 51 LovelyHairstylesCE.esp 82 52 SGHairPackAIO.esp 83 53 Predator Vision.esp 84 54 TKDodge.esp 85 55 JailRape.esp 86 56 Skyrim 2017 TPTC - Parallax Maps.esp 87 57 3jiouAnimSLAL.esp 88 58 IxumsTattoos.esp 89 59 NB-Scars.esp 90 5a ThisisSparta.esp 91 5b [bDO] Warrior Hair Pack.esp 92 5c SVBeards.esp 93 5d EquipmentStateCopy&Rename.esp 94 5e MoreNastyCritters.esp 95 5f SAM - Dawnguard Patch.esp 96 60 NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp 97 61 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 98 62 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp 99 63 RealisticWaterTwo.esp100 64 SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp101 65 MOD - Simply Darker Interiors by Simtar123.esp102 66 One With Nature - DG+DB.esp103 67 SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp104 68 Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp105 69 Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp106 6a VandB_ENB_Nature.esp107 6b ShadowSpellPackage.esp108 6c ShadowSpellPackage_DarkSun.esp109 6d ShadowSpellPackage_DragonbornStaffCrafting.esp110 6e Immersive Encounters.esp111 6f RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp112 70 Cloaks.esp113 71 Run For Your Lives.esp114 72 SAM - Skimpy Courch Underwear.esp115 73 Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp116 74 HornyCreatures.esp117 75 AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp118 76 SoS_AOS2_Patch.esp119 77 SoS_CoT_Patch.esp120 78 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp121 79 Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp122 7a SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp123 7b Unique Uniques.esp124 7c Nordic Ruins of Skyrim.esp125 7d East Reach House.esp126 7e Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp127 7f SAM - Shape Atlas for Men.esp128 80 SAM - Moonlight Tales Essentials Patch.esp129 81 NosPiercedEarsAll.esp130 82 Whiterun Ferns.esp131 83 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp132 84 CoveredBridgesofSkyrim.esp133 85 Immersive Music Temples.esp134 86 Immersive Music.esp135 87 SexLab Approach.esp136 88 DragonLordSwords.esp137 89 JustMarcus.esp138 8a TheEyesOfBeauty.esp139 8b Ultimate NPC Overhaul II.esp140 8c SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp141 8d DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp142 8e Public Executions.esp143 8f NirShor-MusicalLore.esp144 90 TAotB - New Facial Hairs.esp145 91 100XCarryWeight.esp146 92 AMatterOfTime.esp147 93 Animations.esp148 94 Beards.esp149 95 ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp150 96 Convenient Horses.esp151 97 CumMesh.esp152 98 Cumshot.esp153 99 CumshotSL.esp154 9a dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp155 9b DirtCliffVariation.esp156 9c DudestiaOutfitChanger.esp157 9d DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp158 9e Eyes of Aber.esp159 9f FurSet by keung.esp160 a0 JanusForbeare's Fighting Words.esp161 a1 KJ Tattoos 2K.esp162 a2 KL-Kyron.esp163 a3 Lucien.esp164 a4 Race Scale Remover.esp165 a5 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp166 a6 Real Feeding V3.esp167 a7 SAP.esp168 a8 SavrenX Lucien Replacer.esp169 a9 SexistGuards.esp170 aa SGEyebrows.esp171 ab WetFunction.esp172 ac MoreGrass.esp173 ad T71Boxers.esp174 ae PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp175 af PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp176 b0 RideSharing.esp177 b1 Summon Master (Dawnguard).esp178 b2 Summon Master (Dragonborn).esp179 b3 Summon Master (Dragonguard).esp180 b4 Summon Master.esp181 b5 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp182 b6 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp183 b7 RSChildren.esp184 b8 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp185 b9 RSChildren Playable.esp186 ba RSCOarmors.esp187 bb RSCOnaked.esp188 bc RSCOsos.esp189 bd [sAM] Revenge Mashup Refit.esp190 be SkimpyAmulets.esp191 bf [sAM] August All In One.esp192 c0 SexLab_Solutions.esp193 c1 [sAM] Modular Iron Armor Refit.esp194 c2 SAM Dragonbone Set.esp195 c3 SAM Tsun Armor - Seedye.esp196 c4 Lich King's Armor.esp197 c5 ADEC Alduin Armor.esp198 c6 Smooth Argonians.esp199 c7 AdultAccessoriesForMen.esp200 c8 MashiraUndressSpell.esp201 c9 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp202 ca RSSL.esp203 cb SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp204 cc KL-Daren.esp205 cd KL-GeraltUrsine.esp206 ce Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp207 cf ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp208 d0 SoS_ELE_Patch.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertypol012 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Try to install Load Game CTD Fix. See if it fixes your saving and loading problem. As for Crash Fixes causing your game crash whenever loading saves, i also have no absolute clue. I just know that Crash Fixes changes the file format of your saves to avoid having string limit problems, but it probably only runs when you're saving your game. But if i were you, i will use Crash Fixes in a new game instead of in an existing save, because Crash Fixes has an option to create its own memory patch which is different from what's used in vanilla game and even SKSE memory patch. Means that you should not use Crash Fixes memory patch feature along with SKSE memory patch. Crash Fixes memory patch is activated via "UseOSAllocators=1" in CrashFixes.ini file. You also need to set "CustomMemoryBlock=1" and put your own "CustomMemoryBlockTotalSizeMb" number as you need. If you want to use it, then you must deactivate SKSE memory patch by commenting out its SKSE memory blocks inside SKSE.ini. It also requires you to install SKSE Plugin Preloader in order for it to work. In short, use either Crash Fixes memory patch or SKSE memory patch, not both. I also want to add that using either Crash Fixes memory patch or SKSE memory patch is better than Safety Load, because they're meant to replace it. Edited March 7, 2020 by qwertypol012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmh1029 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) Try to install Load Game CTD Fix. See if it fixes your saving and loading problem. As for Crash Fixes causing your game crash whenever loading saves, i also have no absolute clue. I just know that Crash Fixes changes the file format of your saves to avoid having string limit problems, but it probably only runs when you're saving your game. But if i were you, i will use Crash Fixes in a new game instead of in an existing save, because Crash Fixes has an option to create its own memory patch which is different from what's used in vanilla game and even SKSE memory patch. Means that you should not use Crash Fixes memory patch feature along with SKSE memory patch. Crash Fixes memory patch is activated via "UseOSAllocators=1" in CrashFixes.ini file. You also need to set "CustomMemoryBlock=1" and put your own "CustomMemoryBlockTotalSizeMb" number as you need. If you want to use it, then you must deactivate SKSE memory patch by commenting out its SKSE memory blocks inside SKSE.ini. It also requires you to install SKSE Plugin Preloader in order for it to work. In short, use either Crash Fixes memory patch or SKSE memory patch, not both. I also want to add that using either Crash Fixes memory patch or SKSE memory patch is better than Safety Load, because they're meant to replace it. Hey sorry for responding so late! And thank you so much for this information I had NO idea about this. I do in fact use both and I didn't know this. About the crash fixes thing, even after doing a save game with almost no mods installed (except for essentials, like FNIS, XPSME, RaceMenu), my game still crashed having crash fixes installed. I've decided to completely reinstall my game and see if that helps. I'll let you know! Edited April 9, 2020 by vmh1029 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmh1029 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) Try to install Load Game CTD Fix. See if it fixes your saving and loading problem. As for Crash Fixes causing your game crash whenever loading saves, i also have no absolute clue. I just know that Crash Fixes changes the file format of your saves to avoid having string limit problems, but it probably only runs when you're saving your game. But if i were you, i will use Crash Fixes in a new game instead of in an existing save, because Crash Fixes has an option to create its own memory patch which is different from what's used in vanilla game and even SKSE memory patch. Means that you should not use Crash Fixes memory patch feature along with SKSE memory patch. Crash Fixes memory patch is activated via "UseOSAllocators=1" in CrashFixes.ini file. You also need to set "CustomMemoryBlock=1" and put your own "CustomMemoryBlockTotalSizeMb" number as you need. If you want to use it, then you must deactivate SKSE memory patch by commenting out its SKSE memory blocks inside SKSE.ini. It also requires you to install SKSE Plugin Preloader in order for it to work. In short, use either Crash Fixes memory patch or SKSE memory patch, not both. I also want to add that using either Crash Fixes memory patch or SKSE memory patch is better than Safety Load, because they're meant to replace it. When my game is completely fresh reinstalled, I'll ONLY install skse, USLEEP and crash fixes, and I'll see what happens. Edited April 9, 2020 by vmh1029 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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