Best way to diagnose Crash to Desktop?

[loco2304]

Hi everyone,

 

I come from console world but recently got a high end PC and have been enjoying the hell out of Skyrim!

 

I've used Predcaliber's 2018 Skyrim edition which uses Mod Organiser 2 with over 250 mods. However, I sometimes get crashes to the desktop at random times. However, I ALWAYS get a crash the moment I try to start any DLC e.g. travelling to Solstheim.

 

I was wondering if there's a way to diagnose my mod order without enabling and disabling each one manually? Hoping there is some kind of a log that will highlight which mod caused a disturbance in Mod Organiser?

 

Help is greatly appreciated :)

[BigBizkit]

Not really. You can disable chunks of mods at a time and then narrow it down.

 

I remember doing that once meticulously narrowing down my issue to a broken texture on scimitars, which caused my game to crash every time an Alik'r warrior was loaded into memory. Fun times!

[MFitz56]

Hi everyone,

 

I come from console world but recently got a high end PC and have been enjoying the hell out of Skyrim!

 

I've used Predcaliber's 2018 Skyrim edition which uses Mod Organiser 2 with over 250 mods. However, I sometimes get crashes to the desktop at random times. However, I ALWAYS get a crash the moment I try to start any DLC e.g. travelling to Solstheim.

 

I was wondering if there's a way to diagnose my mod order without enabling and disabling each one manually? Hoping there is some kind of a log that will highlight which mod caused a disturbance in Mod Organiser?

 

Help is greatly appreciated :smile:

I don't know that it will help but you might want to look at my blog on the subject. The link is in my signature below. It is the first blog listed.

[loco2304]

So, I actually diagnosed it pretty quickly hahaha. Turns out, it's my LODGEN Files. I've tried deleting the old LODGEN Files and running SSELODGEN again but now I get a crash as soon as I get into the game XD.

 

Unfortunately, now every time I try to run SSELODGEN files the game jsut crashes when I try to load. :(

 

 

#Mod_Priority,#Mod_Status,#Mod_NameThank you

"0000","+","DLC: HearthFires"

"0001","+","DLC: Dragonborn"

"0002","+","DLC: Dawnguard"

"0003","+","00 SKSE Data Files"

"0004","+","Papyrus Extender - SSE 1.5.97 - 2.3.2"

"0005","+","JContainers SE"

"0006","+","Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch"

"0007","+","Cutting Room Floor"

"0008","+","A Quality World Map - Classic with All Roads"

"0009","+","SkyUI 5 2 SE"

"0010","+","SSE High Quality Music"

"0011","+","Immersive HUD - iHUD"

"0012","+","Alternate Start - Live Another Life"

"0013","+","SMIM SE 2"

"0014","+","Ruins Clutter Improved SE NMM"

"0015","+","Enhanced Textures Detail (UV-Tweaks)"

"0016","+","Skyrim_Realistic_Overhaul_Part_1"

"0017","+","Skyrim_Realistic_Overhaul_Part_2"

"0018","+","Skyrim_Realistic_Overhaul_Part_3"

"0019","+","Skyrim_Realistic_Overhaul_1.8._Update"

"0020","+","A. Noble Skyrim - FULL PACK_2K-45807-5-5-1-1543093476"

"0021","+","VioLens - A Killmove Mod SE"

"0026","+","NSM - SMIM Patch"

"0027","+","Landscape Overhaul HD"

"0028","+","SSE Texture Pack 1.3"

"0029","+","Forgotten Vale Ice Textures"

"0030","+","HD Lava (2k)"

"0031","+","Just Ice 2k"

"0032","+","Soul Cairn HD 2K"

"0033","+","Sovngarde HD 2K"

"0034","+","Underground - a dungeon texture overhaul"

"0035","+","Gecko's Nordic Ruins - HIGH Quality"

"0036","+","Gecko's Dwarven Ruins Textures"

"0037","+","CC's HQ Caves - 2K - 1.1"

"0038","+","CC's HQ Mines - 1.2 - 2K"

"0039","+","Skyland Imperial Forts and Dungeons"

"0040","+","SSE 2K Textures"

"0041","+","Stockade Old Grey Timber 2k"

"0042","+","Detailing the Eldrich - Higher-Res Riekling Architecture"

"0043","+","BetterFalmerCaveCeilingGlow"

"0044","+","Stunning Statues of Skyrim"

"0045","+","Mara FULL Saturation 2k"

"0046","+","Ren's HD Shrines by Rengel"

"0047","+","Stalhrim Source 2K v3.1"

"0048","+","YALO SE Terrian LOD - Dawngaurd"

"0049","+","HD Lods Textures SE V9.0 512 - Performance friendly"

"0050","+","HD Lods Textures SE 1K V9.3 - DynDOLOD ONLY VERSION"

"0051","+","Terrain Lod Redone"

"0052","+","Lod Resources"

"0053","+","NAT Stand Alone - 0.4.2 c"

"0054","+","ETHEREAL CLOUDS - Special Edition - 2K"

"0055","+","Skyrim Textures Redone Enhanced Night Sky"

"0056","+","Smooth Sky Mesh"

"0057","+","Indistiunguishable VANILLA Vivid Weathers Lighting"

"0058","+","Obsidian Mountain Fogs 1.01.zip"

"0059","+","Skyrim 3D Trees and Plants"

"0060","+","Skyrim 3D Trees UV Fixed Wood Logs"

"0061","+","Skyrim 3D Trees and Plants BILLBOARDS 4.0.0"

"0062","+","Skyrim 3D Gildergreen"

"0063","+","ET3D - Every Tree Different 2k"

"0064","+","Alternative Bark Pine"

"0065","+","The Elder Scrolls - Veydosebrom"

"0066","+","Skyrim 3D Landscapes 1.0.6"

"0067","+","Skyrim 3D Landscapes Groundcovers 2k"

"0068","+","Skyrim 3D Landscapes BILLBOARDS"

"0069","+","Skyrim 3D Rocks"

"0070","+","Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods"

"0071","+","Riften Leaves HD 2K"

"0072","+","Hanging Moss"

"0073","+","Update 1.1"

"0074","+","New Revised Version 1K"

"0075","+","Vines"

"0076","+","24"

"0077","+","JK's Skyrim all in one"

"0078","+","JK's Skyrim - Towns"

"0079","+","JK's Skyrim SE Skyrim 3D Trees Patch"

"0080","+","R's Farmhouse"

"0081","+","Red Ivy Hotfix 2.0 (by Greenback12 and lornpel)"

"0082","+","SMIM Rope Patch 2.0 (The forgotten Ropes)"

"0083","+","Skyrim 3D StoneWalls"

"0084","+","darker"

"0085","+","CC's HQ Carts - 2K - 1.0"

"0086","+","3Ddoor"

"0087","+","RUSTIC WINDOWS - Special Edition - 2K"

"0088","+","RUGNAROK - Special Edition - 2K"

"0089","+","PELTAPALOOZA Special Edition - FULL"

"0090","+","Iconics Real Hay 2K"

"0091","+","HD Photorealistic Ivy"

"0092","+","Enhanced Textures Detail (UV-Tweaks) - Compatibility Patch"

"0093","+","R's Farmhouse and Handcarts - Compatibility Patch"

"0094","+","Noble Furniture Improved - Replacer"

"0095","+","RUSTIC FURNITURE - SSE - 2K"

"0096","+","CC's HQ Barset - 2K - 1.2"

"0097","+","Comfy Beds (Loose Files)"

"0098","+","2K Retextured Mage Tables"

"0099","+","Archery Target Retexture and Mesh file"

"0100","+","Training Dummies 2k Texture Replacer"

"0101","+","Rain Barrel Fix and Retexture"

"0102","+","RUSTIC CLUTTER COLLECTION - Special Edition - 2K"

"0103","+","shine on silverware"

"0104","+","Forgotten Retex Project"

"0105","+","Misc Retexture Project 2.0"

"0106","+","Retextured SMIM Ingredients"

"0107","+","HD Sacks"

"0108","+","CL's Barrels and Crates"

"0109","+","THOSE BUCKETS - ALL IN ONE"

"0110","+","CC's Fort Dawnguard Reborn - 2K - 5.0"

"0111","+","CC's Castle Volkihar Reborn - 2K - 2.0.7z"

"0112","+","STR - SkyHaven 2K"

"0113","+","STR - High Hrothgar 2K"

"0114","+","Chantry CoW 2.0"

"0115","+","Chantry CoW 2.0 LOD"

"0116","+","More wet version1"

"0117","+","2K Dark Brotherhood tenants"

"0118","+","Sweet Mother HD"

"0119","+","Ancient Automatons 2K"

"0120","+","Ancient Dwemer Metal 2K"

"0121","+","CC's Enhanced Ore Veins SSE - 2K - 7.2"

"0122","+","Windhelm Enhanced Metalwork 2k"

"0123","+","Option A"

"0124","+","2K Dwemer Ichor Barrel"

"0125","+","better prisonerstuff"

"0126","+","Imperial Metal Replacer Texture"

"0127","+","Soulgem Stand Redone - 2K"

"0128","+","Fluffy Snow - 2K"

"0129","+","Fluffy Snow 3D Trees Patch"

"0130","+","Fluffy Snow Windhelm Bridge and Street Fix"

"0131","+","Blended Roads"

"0132","+","Medieval Bridges"

"0133","+","Ennead Banners 2K.7z"

"0134","+","Weathered Road Signs"

"0135","+","Weathered Road Signs - Cutting Room Floor Patch"

"0136","+","better ropes sse"

"0137","+","DeviantKaled's Nord Ship Texture Replacers"

"0138","+","Viking-Style Ship Sails"

"0139","+","4K Hagraven House"

"0140","+","Leatherhide"

"0141","+","Fur Tent Retexture 4k"

"0142","+","Iconics Woodfires 2K"

"0143","+","Fur Bedroll 2k"

"0144","+","2K Imperial Tents Retextured"

"0145","+","Gemling Queen Jewelry SE"

"0146","+","Necromancer Amulet Retexture - Amethysts"

"0147","+","2k Textures"

"0148","+","HD Model Ship"

"0149","+","RUSTIC ELDERSCROLL - Special Edition - 2K"

"0150","+","Pretty Gems"

"0151","+","Animated Clutter"

"0152","+","RUSTIC CLOTHING - Special Edition - 2K"

"0153","+","RUSTIC FORSWORN - Special Edition - 2K"

"0154","+","Immersive Armors 8.1 SSE Test"

"0155","+","Immersive Weapons"

"0156","+","Unique Uniques SE"

"0157","+","Skyforge Weapons SSE"

"0158","+","Draugr Weaponry Replacer"

"0159","+","Draugr Weaponry Standalone"

"0160","+","Real Bows"

"0161","+","Real Bows - ColourMatch Textures 1.0"

"0162","+","Dragonbone Armor and Weapons 2K HD"

"0163","+","Daedric Standalone"

"0164","+","Third Era v1.4"

"0165","+","Ancient Falmer Armor HD"

"0166","+","Outlandish Chitin Armour"

"0167","+","circlets"

"0168","+","Aragonite -"

"0169","+","True HD Nightingale"

"0170","+","HD dawnguard armor 2k"

"0171","+","TGA 2k"

"0172","+","DB armor retexture 2k"

"0173","+","Nightshade Vampire Armor Retexture"

"0174","+","TemplePriestReclamationRobes"

"0175","+","aMidianBorn Imperial Light 1dot1 2k"

"0176","+","Ennead Shields - 2K"

"0177","+","NightingalePride MEDIUM"

"0178","+","Auriel's Bow HD"

"0179","+","Auriel's Shield HD"

"0180","+","Eldruin Dawnbreaker"

"0181","+","Staff of Magnus HD"

"0182","+","Spellbreaker Remesh"

"0183","+","2K Zephyr Retextured"

"0184","+","2K Black Bow Of Fate"

"0185","+","2K Ring of Namira Retextured"

"0186","+","2K Ring Of Hircine Retextured.7z"

"0187","+","ApachiiSkyHair v 1 6 Full optimized"

"0188","+","ApachiiSkyHairFemale v 1 5 Optimized"

"0189","+","ApachiiSkyHairMale v 1 2 Optimized"

"0190","+","KS Hairdo's SSE - Male"

"0191","+","KS Hairdo's SSE - Female"

"0192","+","Botox for Skyrim SSE BSA"

"0193","+","The Ordinary Women SSE 3.0 CBBE"

"0194","+","The Ordinary Women SSE 3.0 USSEP"

"0195","+","Pandorable's NPCs SE"

"0196","+","Pandorable's NPCs SE - USSEP"

"0197","+","Bijin Warmaidens SE v3.1.3"

"0198","+","Bijin NPCs SE 1.2.1"

"0199","+","Bijin Wives SE 1.1.2"

"0200","+","Seranaholic SSE - Fomod - v1.0.1"

"0201","+","Serana High-res skin texture for v1.8"

"0202","+","Valerica SSE v1.7.2"

"0203","+","Valerica High-res skin texture option"

"0204","+","Masculine Khajiit Textures (Grey Cat and Leopard)"

"0205","+","Masculine Argonian Textures for Vanilla (Chameleon and Lizard)"

"0206","+","SkySight Skins - Ultra HD Male Textures and Real Feet Meshes (4K2K HIGH)"

"0207","+","RaceMenu Special Edition"

"0208","+","XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended"

"0209","+","Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-"

"0210","+","Feminine Khajiit Textures (Grey Cat and Leopard) [CBBE]"

"0211","+","Feminine Argonian Textures (Chameleon and Lizard) [CBBE]"

"0212","+","Fair Skin Complexion for CBBE v10.0"

"0213","+","SUEMR SSE v3.0 Meshes"

"0214","+","Eye replacer 1k"

"0215","+","2K Underworld Hybrid Eyes - Glow Version"

"0216","+","Immersive Weapons Patches SE"

"0217","+","The Kids Are Alright - Episode One SE"

"0218","+","Bellyaches Animal and Creature Pack"

"0219","+","Shuffler90's Skeleton 4k retexture - 2k version"

"0220","+","Dragon.Priest.by.Kajuan"

"0221","+","Apophysis Dragon Priest Masks"

"0222","+","Falmer.by.Kajuan"

"0223","+","Hagraven.by.Kajuan"

"0224","+","Falmer Ear 1K"

"0225","+","Hagraven Claw"

"0226","+","Realistic Skin Shaders - Falmer and Hagravens"

"0227","+","Transparent and refracting Icicle and Frost Atronach"

"0228","+","Morrowind Soulgems"

"0229","+","Dragon Priest 4k with Weapons 2k"

"0230","+","Even Better Ice Wraiths - Completely Redone"

"0231","+","Dragon Priest 2K Improved - Also Improved Weapons"

"0232","+","Giant.by.Kajuan"

"0233","+","Realistic Skin and Hair Shaders - Giants"

"0234","+","Troll.by.Kajuan"

"0235","+","RUSTIC SPRIGGAN - Special Edition - 2K"

"0236","+","RUSTIC DAEDRA SSE - 2K"

"0237","+","Lurker - Creature Retex"

"0238","+","Seeker - Creature Retex"

"0239","+","Wispmother.by.Kajuan"

"0240","+","Frostbitespider retexture 2k - 2k bright version"

"0241","+","Werewolf Retexture - 2K"

"0242","+","RUSTIC DEATH HOUND AND GARGOYLE SSE - 2K"

"0243","+","Ash Guardian Retexture"

"0244","+","Ash Spawn Retexture"

"0245","+","Savage Bear SE"

"0246","+","Immersive Smilodons"

"0247","+","Immersive Dragons SE"

"0248","+","Mammoth.by.Kajuan"

"0249","+","SABRECAT.by.Kajuan"

"0250","+","Shuffler90's Horker 4K Retexture"

"0251","+","PondFish and Salmon Replacer 1.2"

"0252","+","Realistic Horse Breeds by Kritta Kitty"

"0253","+","Horse Saddle Retextures 1.0"

"0254","+","Burned Corspe"

"0255","+","Khonsu - Mist's Shadowmarks 2K"

"0256","+","Enhanced Blood Textures"

"0257","+","Cinematic Fire Effects 2 HD - SSE - Alternative"

"0258","+","Embers HD"

"0259","+","Burnt Wood"

"0260","+","ELECTRIFY SEv4 x2048"

"0261","+","Deadly Spell Impacts"

"0262","+","Ash Pile Retexture Version"

"0263","+","DustEffectsSSE"

"0264","+","Sounds of Skyrim Complete SE"

"0266","+","Enhanced Lights and FX"

"0267","+","Unofficial ELFX SMIM fps performance patch"

"0268","+","R's Handcart"

"0269","+","03-hd-candle-flames"

"0270","+","WEBS SE x2048"

"0271","+","Realistic Water Two"

"0272","+","Beautiful Water"

"0273","+","JK's Skyrim - Realistic Water Two Patch"

"0274","+","RealisticWaterTwo LOD Fix"

"0275","+","VolcanicHeatHaze-by-fadingsignal.rar"

"0276","+","LODGEN Files"

Edited March 11, 2020 by loco2304

[Guest deleted80903]

^ Might want to spoiler that load order of horror. ;P

 

Anyways, to answer the main post, here are some ideas for diagnosing CTDs:

 

CTD Before the Main Menu Can Mean:

• Your load order is messed up. Use LOOT to sort it.
• A mod is missing a required master file.
• You have a corrupt SKSE .DLL file installed, or a .DLL for another version of SKSE.
• Assets for a main menu replacer mod are corrupt.

CTD In a Particular Area Can Mean:

• An NPC in the area has messed up headparts. Reinstall the problem mod, or generate FaceGen files for the mod in the CK.
• You may have a corrupt mesh installed. This can happen when Oldrim mods aren't ported properly to SE. You'll have to use trial and error (disabling groups) of mods in your mod organizer, or isolate (rename/remove temporarily) mesh folders from your data folder. A missing mesh won't generally cause a CTD (it will display as a red and white exclamation point in game).
• You may have a corrupt texture installed. This can also happen when Oldrim mods aren't ported properly to SE. Use the same procedure as above to isolate/identify the problem mod. A completely missing texture won't generally cause a CTD (it will cause things in game to display with shiny purple textures).
• A mod deleted or made changes to a NavMesh in the area, causing a crash when NPCs try to utilize it. I loved the Immersive Patrols mod, but it caused persistent crashing in certain areas of the Rift, so I had to disable it. Use trial and error to isolate/identify problem mod.

CTD At Random Times Could Mean:

• Memory issues - too many script heavy or VRAM heavy mods. Doesn't happen too often for me on Skyrim SE though; instead I find that the Infinite Load Screen issue occurs instead of CTD in the case of memory usage issues.
• A timed scripted event is causing a crash. This happened to me one time in Morrowind; a mod that ran a script on a timer crashed the game whenever the script was run. I figured out the problem based on the crash happening at the exact same time in the playthrough regardless of place.

CTD When Interacting With Object or NPC Could Mean:

• A script on that entity could be problematic.