Indio21 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 So, something to be said about happy wife.......Yes, it goes "Happy wife, happy life!!!!" LOL That way I can pick the parts I want instead of relying on a third party's limited selection.......Exactly why I do my own and save on the labor. Only having the manufacturers' warranty does not scare me at all with these days of solid state components. Anyone could get a bad component from any quality level of hardware. Nothing is flawless on processes including manufacturing. Well, those are definitely some powered boards. Had to look as thought a typo with the 256 ram. If I could change around that energy, that one might start my Harley as a back up too lol. Was not aware they went that big. Myself I try to constantly remind myself of the KISS theory.......Keep It Simple Stupid, lol, as I have to reel myself in at times. With PCs I try to keep them like that old '68 327 I gave the example of.....bare bones but exactly what it only needs. With an air cooled unit only one possible failure with something like a cpu or gpu and that is cooling, so one or two component fans maybe. Add in the liquid cooler and you keep the same probability of fan failure but now add a pump to it too. Unless they came up with some miracle heat transferring gel, with out a pump that water is just a big heat sink with out cooling! So for one "bell" I potentially doubled my chance of failures. I make up for the "bells" with a cool case, some jazzy lights, colored cables, and such. I like the cases I can see into so at a glance if a fan is not spinning it might catch my eye. Plus with the lights it is cool to look at so I do want to, lol. Forgot I have a nephew whose into building these things, and his son is too........There you go, do it with them when it comes around. You help and see it once you might wonder why you hadn't all along. Plus its a nice way to kill an afternoon too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinjack Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) Doing the computer with my nephew is probably going to be another "a-ha" moment for me. I knew it, I still know it, but after the stroke I'm afraid to do it. Except for the motherboard. Never done one. Doesn't help that my balance is wonky now and I have problems with smaller things, thus the static wrist band I bought. Never needed one before, just kept myself grounded to the frame. I was surprised by the size of that motherboard's capabilities too. I thought they only went to 128GB. 256GB ram gives you a long way to expand and I like an oversized board I can add components to in the future if I need/want to. Already saw a M.2 adapter that can handle up to to four M.2 cards in one "case". Not that I need one, but the capability to expand is there. I get new machines only very rarely, so I need to keep an eye to the future. But I'd rather spend the money on a better motherboard right now and increase the ram or cpu/gpu later since it is basically the foundation of the build. And I'm the same way with my cases, but then again I can be distracted by anything "shiny". Should have named myself Magpie. :laugh: Skinjack just sounded cooler. EDIT: Sent the list to my nephew. Now I'm waiting on the "Holy Crap" reply. :laugh: Sent you a pm Indiao21. Edited March 31, 2020 by Skinjack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indio21 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 That is a factor for sure and I am glad you came out of to still be here with us! There are some smaller connections from wires and such but they just push on. I don't use a static wrist band just because I do not like it dragging around. If one pays attention and keeps the thought to discharge themselves through the processes all is fine. Just always keep hardware in the anti-static bag it comes in. Even when opening the MB to familiarize yourself with where connections are you will use. Always leave it on top of the anti-static bag or put it back in. Use the metal of the case to discharge yourself before handling anything. Just rub your hands on the metal for a few seconds is all that is needed. I do the same trying to plan for a limited future upgrade ability but have to rein myself in from building the Porsche I don't need. I love tech built machines whether it be a pc or a KA piece of manufacturing equipment lol. With me being able to step up to the i7, only using half the available RAM, and having the open slots, the MB fits my bill. So if you use or plan to use it I would do the same. Cheaper to upgrade a piece of hardware or some than redo the whole system and the MB sets the playing field. Now I would have liked having a MB that had two of the M2 sockets for sure! Then I could have left the SATA tech behind except for using my old drives. Either that tech was not out yet or I could not afford the extra funds for one. I just remember the M2 socket not being out that long when I did the build. About once a year I strip my pc back down and clean it. The dust alone going through the case and settling is enough to "insulate" components and shorten life. So I lightly blow everything out and very carefully use swabs to clean the fan blades and small paint brushes to lightly wipe things down while blowing air on it. Helps to loosen the dust but use some decent brushes and a gentle touch. You don't want the bristles coming out and getting stuck somewhere. I don't completely break it down meaning like pulling the CPU fan unless the heat sink needs it and having it out makes it easier to clean. You will have thermal paste left so hang on to it. I just pull the cards and such to make cleaning them easier and they just push back in. I don't pull the MB from the case and such, just work with it in. Now don't mix up what I am saying with cooling and over due it. Solid state is not like a combustion engine that does run better the cooler you can keep it. You want to shoot for keeping the case and such in that recommend operating temp range. If solid state components do not make their operating temp it would be like constantly turning on the pc and turning off just before it reaches said temps. I shoot for making the low levels of said temps with it just running normal so when I do push it hopefully I am at maybe 90% of the range at the most. Planning to achieve that recommended operating temp is what gives the longevity. Solid state needs to make temps for thermal expansion and to handle the harmonics fans and energy moving through the components make. Kind of like the example on plastic not being flexible when cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinjack Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 You might want to do more research on this: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboard-Accessories/HYPER-M-2-X16-GEN-4-CARD/ The way I read it, it's supposed to be a case you can plug into you're M.2 slot and expand it into 4 NVMe's inside its case. Haven't read too much into it, but I can always hope that's what it's saying. Not that I'll need it if I get the mobo I want, but it would be nice to know the capability to expand or upgrade is there. I think I have a pretty good idea of the components I want, my nephew will run through the list and correct any of my screw ups. Or his son will, since he is way into this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indio21 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Well that is nice to know! Now I will probably remove a new regular ssd for the upgrade and add this as long as the data transfer rates are still better than SATA. Like I said I don't keep up in the latest tech out. Just start the researching when I have the need arise. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinjack Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 I just found it myself today, so I'm far from done researching it. Just thought I would share in case it is what I think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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