Modded Skyrim SE constant CTD's near cities (423 mods +enb)

[IcyyBlade]

I have a pretty heavy modded Skyrim that runs perfectly in interiors/wilds (with a crash every 30 minutes or so). I have SSE Fixes, ENBoost, Bug Fixes, USSEP, and pretty much anything else that can be used to prevent CTDs. I crash when I am outside Windhelm all the time. I have sorted by LOOT and made a bashed patch, made sure there was no missing meshes and got all compatibility patches for all conflicting mods.

 

My specs:

Graphics card: GTX 1060 6gb

Memory: 8gb ram

Processor: Intel Core i7-8750H 2.20GHz

 

Modlist:

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
Landscape and Water Fixes.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
BSAssets.esm
3DNPC.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim II.esm
DwemerGatesNoRelock.esl
Forgotten DungeonsSSE.esm
SolstheimLighthouse.esl
BSHeartland.esm
BS_DLC_patch.esp
RaceCompatibility.esm
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
TKChildren.esm
FISS.esp
Ecotone Dual Sheath.esl
Falskaar - Temper Recipes.esl
LCHB_HomeBase.esm
RE_RealEstate_Core.esp
DynDOLOD.esm
waterplants.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp
Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
NSUTR_bugfixes.esp
NSUTR_groundsnow_mesh_fixes.esp
NSUTR_improvements.esp
DLCIntegration.esp
DLCIntegration Beyond Skyrim Compatibility Patch.esp
Mortal Enemies.esp
NAT.esp
TrueStormsSE.esp
tpos_ultimate_esm.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
LoS II - Tamriel Master Lights.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
CLARALUX SSE.esp
LC_Citadel.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
Treeswinedave.esp
WICO - Immersive People.esp
Improved Adoptions MERGED.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
AnotherSortingMod_2017-SSE.esp
T'Skyrim - True Skyrim.esp
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
Faction Economy - Complete.esp
BUVARP.esp
RREnhanced.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Elemental Destruction.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
MoreBanditCamps.esp
Nordic Carriage Company.esp
Skyrim Bridges.esp
OpulentThievesGuild.esp
Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp
Man Those Borders!.esp
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
skyBirds_SSE.esp
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp
WICO - USSEP Compatible Patch.esp
Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp
Training Dummies & Targets - Falskaar Edition.esp
RE_RealEstate.esp
WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
hearthfireextended.esp
OwnCivilWar.esp
Holidays.esp
ArcheryDummyXP.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp
HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp
The Brotherhood of Old.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
No Riverbededge Grass -Rift -Coast.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
OpulentThievesGuildPatch.esp
SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp
Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - ELFX.esp
cliffs.esp
Crime Overhaul Expanded.esp
Immersive Encounters.esp
BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp
CFTO.esp
Dawnguard - Radiant Quest Requirements.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
OBIS SE.esp
VioLens SE.esp
Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp
OBIS Loot SE.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
Qw_WACCF_ISC Patch.esp
Qw_DeadlySpellImpacts_ISC Patch.esp
waterplants verdant patch.esp
Grass FPS Booster.esp
Falskaar - Unique Region Names.esp
beltfastenedquivers.esp
Realistic-Voice.esp
Less Tedious Thieves Guild.esp
Wavy Waters.esp
Slow Menus for Unpaused.esp
LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp
BestialBeastRaces.esp
No Vampire Attacks In Towns.esp
True Skyrim - CRF Patch.esp
True Skyrim - USSEP Patch.esp
WeightLessLegacyAll.esp
Falskaar - SkyTEST and Bruma Patch.esp
Pickpocket100Chance.esp
True Skyrim - Falskaar and Bruma Patch.esp
HFE-CFTO-Patch.esp
True Skyrim - OBIS Patch.esp
More Interesting Loot Remastered.esp
Raven Rock.esp
Qw_WICO_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_ACE_CRF Patch.esp
tpos_falskar_patch_01.esp
BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp
Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp
Randomized Word Walls.esp
konahrik_accoutrements.esp
Old Dusty travels again.esp
Signs_of_Skyrim.esp
Real Estate USSEP.esp
Holds - SPO Patch.esp
Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
WICO-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
Killable Children.esp
Killable Children - RS.esp
TKChildren.esp
Bells of Skyrim.esp
Holds - Falskaar Patch.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
notice board.esp
Boat Travel - Dragonborn.esp
Falskaar - Notice Board.esp
ForgottenCity.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp
Bells of Skyrim - Reduced Volume.esp
Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp
Animated Enchantments.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp
Beyond Bruma - Trade and Barter Patch.esp
Qw_RusticSoulgemsSorted_ISC Patch.esp
LoS II - Bruma patch.esp
3DNPC0.esp
SkyTweak.esp
3PCO.esp
KD - Realistic Fireplaces SE.esp
PumpingIron.esp
DragonCombatDialogue.esp
SkyHUD.esp
RealNames - SSE Edition.esp
LuxuriousPickaxes.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
TissHeadTrack.esp
TaxesOfTheNineHolds.esp
Radiant Quest Marker SE.esp
Radiant Quest Marker SE CRF Patch.esp
SpellResearch.esp
Spell Research - Patch Compendium.esp
Animallica.esp
VampireSun.esp
Improved Traps.esp
Qw_ACE_SkyrimImmersiveCreatures Patch.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
Immersive Weapons_WACCF_Patch.esp
USSEP-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
RoyalDaedric.esp
TCIY_CRF_Patch.esp
RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_WACCF_RSChildren Patch.esp
Qw_ACE_BSHeartland Patch.esp
Improved Adoptions USSEP fix.esp
Qw_WICO_3DNPC Patch.esp
CH BRU_FAL_WYR.esp
Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
Fixed body collision.esp
BUVARP - Dawnguard - T&E Patch.esp
UsefulDogs.esp
DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
Move it Dammit - Less Wait Time.esp
BUVARP IW Patch.esp
BUVARP - TheChoiceIsYours Patch.esp
Skytest Animallica.esp
Ecotone Dual Sheath Patch.esp
CuyiPriestHoods.esp
Hellish Hounds.esp
Savage Wolves and Feral Foxes.esp
LuminousAtronachs.esp
dD-No Screen Blood.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp
UIExtensions.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
EBT - IC PATCH.esp
EBT - skyBirds Patch.esp
KS Dragon Overhaul 2.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
OBIS SE - NoticeBoard - Addon.esp
BeyondSkyrimMerchant.esp
naruto overhaul.esp
UchihaClan.esp
Landscape For Grass Mods - Moon and Star PATCH.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
tpos_forgottencity_entrance.esp
Landscape For Grass Mods - Military Camps.esp
LoS II - SMIM patch.esp
CFTO-Lanterns.esp
CRF + Bridges Patch.esp
HFE-CRF-Patch.esp
CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp
PP_WindcallerPass.esp
Falskaar - Fast Travel.esp
Falskaar - Bug Fixes.esp
DestructibleDisplayCases.esp
Balanced Magic SE.esp
Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SkyrimRecycling.esp
True Skyrim - ISC Patch.esp
Mark Books as Read.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
LootandDegradation.esp
wizDynamicThings.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
Player Blink Fix.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
HOR_AlchemyXP30.esp
Mortal Enemies Patch - Realistic Animals Predators.esp
HOR_SkyBirdsPatch.esp
DustEffectsSSE.esp
BlendedRoads.esp
Fluffy Snow - BlendedRoads Patch.esp
S3DRocks.esp
Footprints.esp
iHUD.esp
AchieveThat_SE_en.esp
Qw_BarenziahQuestMarkers_USSEP Patch.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
WICO - Immersive Character.esp
WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
Character Behaviors Enhanced.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
-SP4- HOLD ATTACK (CBE add-on).esp
OBISCloaks.esp
Qw_ACE_CloaksOfSkyrim Patch.esp
Public Executions.esp
WetandCold.esp
Wet&Cold - WaterFix - Addon.esp
TrueStorms_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp
HD Lods SSE.esp
Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp
MLU_Bruma.esp
NoRadialBlur.esp
JokerineMoreEggs.esp
AHZMagicRange2x.esp
DynamicDungeonLoot.esp
ENB Light.esp
Spells Emit Light - Dim.esp
NAT_TS_Patch_DarkStormy_WaterFix.esp
NAT_TS_Patch_DarkStormy.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
Retching Netch Seating.esp
FireBurns.esp
Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp
MLU.esp
ISC_MRU_patch.esp
MLU - Summermyst.esp
MLU - CRF.esp
MLU - Immersive Armors.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
CWIAIPATCH.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
Rebirth Monster - MLU Patch.esp
CWIEnLFXSEPatch.esp
CWICRFSEPatch.esp
ICOW_WICO_Patch.esp
MLU - WICO.esp
Atlas Map Markers.esp
Landscape For Grass mods - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp
NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp
Blowing in the Wind - Helgen Reborn Patch SSE.esp
Trade & Barter.esp
True Skyrim - Trade and Barter Patch.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
CWIOrdinatorPatchSSE.esp
HOR_OrdinatorPatch.esp
Elemental Destruction - Ordinator Patch.esp
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
Ordinator_WACCF_Patch.esp
Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
Holds.esp
Holds Unofficial Patch.esp
Holds - ELFX Patch.esp
HoldsLegacyOfTheDragonbornCompatibilityPatch.esp
Holds - Holidays Patch.esp
Holds - USEEP Patch.esp
Holds - Interesting NPCs Patch.esp
HoldsInterestingNPCsCompatibilityPatch.esp
Holds - Dynamic Things Optional Patch.esp
Holds - No Snow Under the Roof Patch.esp
HoldsPrometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roofCompatibilityPatch.esp
Holds - CRF Patch.esp
Holds - LoS II Patch.esp
HoldsUSLEEPCompatibilityPatch.esp
Holds - Bells of Skyrim Patch.esp
tpos_altstart_02.esp
Holds - Notice Board Patch.esp
Holds - WACCF Patch.esp
Holds - Unique Treasures Patch.esp
Holds - BS Merchant Patch.esp
Holds - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp
Holds - Alternate Start Patch.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
Holds - ELFX Enhancer Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
water flow lines fix patch.esp
RWT - People of Skyrim Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - ELFX Enhancer Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp
Sum_WACCF_Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
DynDOLOD.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp
Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

I know the bottom plugins are weird, but LOOT sorts it like that and I can't sort it any other way.

Edited March 25, 2020 by IcyyBlade

[IcyyBlade]

Hello? Anyone want to help me out? I crash frequently and am wondering if there could be something to fix it.

[Th3Boar]

Hey there. Can't help you with your actual problem, however, to increase your odds of being helped here I have a few suggestions:

1. Please put your "mod list" section into a spoiler tag for easy viewing. Example:

 

This makes long lists smaller in the overall post and can let people who potentially want to help you get a better overview of the post before delving into the load order or other long files

 

Simply do it like this: *[spoiler] Text Goes Here [/spoiler]* without the *

2. You might need to add more specific information regarding the CTD itself. Is it consistent/re-creatable? When does it usually happen or is it random? Did you potentially rip out mods mid-playthrough and what type, if so?

3. Have you checked the Windows task manager's performance tab (if you use Windows, that is) to see whether your system can handle the 423 mods + enb? Some mods are more load intensive than others so that might cause system strain.

4. Have you read all the mod pages descriptions and checked if all of your mods will play nice together or if additional patching is required? Some frequently used and larger mods might have patches for each other, but smaller and newer mods might not yet.

 

If you really can't find anybody to help you here, try discords from various places. But remember, be polite and don't expect anything. You are asking people to help you sift through your 400 something modlist on their own time so that you can hopefully soon play on a stable game. You aren't owed this so please be respectful and patient. And if you see someone who needs help that you can provide, do so.

Also, if push comes to shove, you might have to do the old take all mods out and load in one after the other, though for this extensive modlist I probably would try everything else before doing that.

I wish you the best of luck :smile:

[Anselmp]

I have had a look at your list. There is plenty of advice on this forum for people with similar problems, so have a read through. JimmyRJump has many more mods than that, but the quality of his list is entirely different. You have too many quests that add new lands. Some of these are old and are not being maintained. Last time I looked Wyrmstooth was no longer available. They were mostly ported to SE without updating. You also have a lot of general mods that are likely to interfere with each other. I doubt if a mix of patches can cope with the complications, particularly whenever one has updates which may not be matched by another. Some of your mods were for LE, I'm fairly sure. Vortex usually highlights these as being for a different game even if they still seem to work. Better to remove them anyway. Also beware of too many scripts.

[IcyyBlade]

I have had a look at your list. There is plenty of advice on this forum for people with similar problems, so have a read through. JimmyRJump has many more mods than that, but the quality of his list is entirely different. You have too many quests that add new lands. Some of these are old and are not being maintained. Last time I looked Wyrmstooth was no longer available. They were mostly ported to SE without updating. You also have a lot of general mods that are likely to interfere with each other. I doubt if a mix of patches can cope with the complications, particularly whenever one has updates which may not be matched by another. Some of your mods were for LE, I'm fairly sure. Vortex usually highlights these as being for a different game even if they still seem to work. Better to remove them anyway. Also beware of too many scripts.

Thank you for going through that list and helping me out. I have looked through many of those posts but some of them don't even have solutions. The mods for LE were ported over and converted to SE. Wyrmstooth is still being maintained but the author has the files in some other website and updating it. I am certain the scripts don't cause the crashes because only in heavy areas like Windhelm does it crash.

[IcyyBlade]

Guys I figured it out. It was a messed up DynDOLOD. Apparently there is some missing meshes that I don't know how to solve, and disabling it for now fixed it. I am sorry for the lost time you guys spent replying to help me, but thank you anyways! :)