VATS Issue

[BriNyeTheScienceGuy]

Hey everyone,

 

I am experiencing an issue with New Vegas and VATS after installing a bunch of mods. Whenever I go into VATS, experience something resembling screen burn in (Thats not what is though) after exiting where whatever I had targeted has its outline stuck on my screen this image stays there even after reloading a save and only disappears on closing the game and relaunching. Obviously this is super annoying and makes vats basically unusable.

 

 

Does anyone have any insight as to what could be causing this or how to fix it?

 

System info:

i5-4430

GTX 1060 6GB

8GB RAM

 

Mod Info (exported from Mod Organizer 2, arch invalidation turned on btw):

#Mod_Priority,#Mod_Status,#Mod_Name

"0000","+","DLC: TribalPack"

"0001","+","DLC: OldWorldBlues"

"0002","+","DLC: MercenaryPack"

"0003","+","DLC: LonesomeRoad"

"0004","+","DLC: HonestHearts"

"0005","+","DLC: GunRunnersArsenal"

"0006","+","DLC: DeadMoney"

"0007","+","DLC: ClassicPack"

"0008","+","DLC: CaravanPack"

"0009","+","NVAC - New Vegas Anti Crash"

"0010","+","New Vegas Tick Fix"

"0011","+","CASM with MCM"

"0012","+","The Mod Configuration Menu"

"0013","+","UIO - User Interface Organizer"

"0014","+","JIP LN NVSE Plugin"

"0015","+","Fallout Character Overhaul 3.0-54460-3-0"

"0016","+","New Vegas Redesigned 3 version 3.7"

"0017","+","DYNAVISION 3 FULL"

"0018","+","Enhanced Camera 1.4c"

"0019","+","Faster Start Menu"

"0020","+","Enhanced Blood Textures"

"0021","+","EVE - Essential Visual Enhancements"

"0022","+","ELECTRO-CITY v12A"

"0023","+","Fellout"

"0024","+","Fellout for Old World Blues"

"0025","+","Nevada Skies Classic Edition"

"0026","+","A Wold Of Pain 6.93 and AWOP Monster Patch (Vanilla)"

"0027","+","Afterschool Special V 2O1 - Sortomatic V4 Full"

"0028","+","Afterschool Special Version 2O1"

"0029","+","AWOP Dead Money 2.0"

"0030","+","The Weapon Mod Menu"

"0031","+","Loot Menu"

"0032","+","Freeside Open"

"0033","+","The Strip Open"

"0034","+","New Vegas Reloaded"

"0035","+","New Bison Steve Version 107 MASTER FILE VERSION"

"0036","+","Someguy Series 2 dot"

"0037","+","BMF 1.01"

"0038","+","KOTR Version 1 dot"

"0039","+","Lee Enfield Number 4"

"0040","+","MMR - Main Menu Redone"

"0041","+","NCR Retexture" https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/52721

"0042","+","Legion Retexture" https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45557

"0043","+","More Perks"

"0044","+","More Traits"

"0045","+","NVBI Version 1 dot"

"0046","+","NVBII Version 1 dot"

"0047","+","NVBIII Version .954 FULL"

"0048","+","NVInteriors Core v2.1.1"

"0049","+","IMPACT - The Michael Bay"

"0050","+","Weapon Retexture Project - WRP"

"0051","+","Weapon Mods Expanded"

"0052","+","YUP - Base Game and All DLC"

"0053","+","Sortomatic"

"0054","+","Russell Version 1.17"

"0055","+","NVK Version 1.0"

"0056","+","The Inheritance Version 1 dot 29-49012-1-29"

"0057","+","The Better Angels 1.01"

"0058","+","NMCs Textures NV LARGE Pack Part 1 of 3 FOR NMM"

"0059","+","NMCs Textures NV LARGE Pack Part 2 of 3 FOR NMM"

"0060","+","NMCs Textures NV LARGE Pack Part 3 of 3 FOR NMM"

"0061","+","NMC New Vegas Patch for ALL Sized packs"

"0062","+","Pip-Boy Readius"

"0063","+","Wasteland Flora Overhaul ESP-less and LOD-less"

"0064","+","Weapon Animations Replacer FOMOD"

"0065","+","Ojo Bueno Texture Pack for FNV - ULTRA"

"0066","+","Ojo Bueno Vending Machine Update ULTRA"

"0067","+","Project Nevada - Core - Equipment - Rebalance"

"0068","+","Project Nevada"

"0069","+","Project Nevada - Extra Options"

"0070","+","mobile truck base

"0071","+","A World of Pain Freeside Open Compatibility Patch"

"0072","+","AWOP Compatibility Patches"

"0073","+","WMX - Weapon Retexture Project compatibility v1.2.4"

"0074","+","WMX-EVE"

"0075","+","WMX-DLC"

"0076","+","WMX - Compatibility Patch"

"0077","+","AWOP Weapon Mod Patches"

"0078","+","NMC_NVInteriors compatibility Patch Large v2.0"

"0079","+","QRNVR3 - Qwinn's Refined New Vegas Redesigned 3 MERGED"

"0080","+","Interior Lighting Overhaul"

"0081","+","Project Nevada - IMPACT cp"

"0082","+","Project Nevada - WMX Support"

"0083","+","Project Nevada - EVE Support"

"0084","+","One HUD (oHUD)"

"0085","+","Bottle That Water"

"0086","+","Vanilla UI Plus (New Vegas)"

"0087","+","ADAM Reborn"

"0088","+","Vanilla_UI_Plus_Remastered_Patch_1"

"0089","+","BOA NV The Book Of Flesh"

"0090","+","nov 2011 book of steel"

Edited March 29, 2020 by BriNyeTheScienceGuy

[M48A5]

There is no mention of using the FNV 4GB Patcher despite the notice on the NMCs Texture Pack and Ojo Bueno mod pages that it is necessary.

[BriNyeTheScienceGuy]

I am using the 4GB Patcher, sorry, its not in the load order because it was installed manually, same with NVSE

[dubiousintent]

"Screen burn-in" is usually a hardware phenomenon, due to "phospher persistence". It's not normally seen outside of analog displays. I'm not a "hardware geek" who is up on whether it is something found on modern "flat panel" LED (etc.) displays, but also haven't run into the problem before and I pay attention to such issues.

 

What is your display? (Make and model.)

 

Presumably you only see this problem in FNV and it eventually "goes away" as you continue playing? If it's not hardware, then it must be from some mod. I don't see anything in that list which is an obvious VATS mod, though there are a couple I don't recognize. You may have to resort to the 'Mod Conflict Isolation' section of the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" article.

 

-Dubious-

[BriNyeTheScienceGuy]

Screen burn in is just what it resembles. It goes away after closing and relaunching the game.
For example if I target an NCR soldier in VATS, once I leave VATS, I will see this outline of the soldier and any terrain that was zoomed in on in VATS on my screen. it does not go away, even after reloading the save, so essentially I can't use VATS or I have to relaunch the game every time I use it.

[BriNyeTheScienceGuy]

I've also posted this on the FalloutMods reddit page and there's an image there if you want to see what I'm talking about, the file was too large for Nexus forms

https://www.reddit.com/r/FalloutMods/comments/fr7i9f/fnv_mods_causing_vats_issue_need_help/

[M48A5]

You are running two very large texture replacer mods and both of them have warnings about the amount of RAM they require. I have seen this before in my game and it is a result of having too much demand placed on the RAM and VRAM. I suggest you choose only one of the texture packs.

[BriNyeTheScienceGuy]

I removed ojo bueno and still had the issue persist, any other suggestions?

[dubiousintent]

Just looked over the image on Reddit. That's a new one on me, and very interesting. As it persists through a reload of a save game but vanishes when you exit to the desktop and restart, it sounds like some of the memory used for VATS is not being completely released until the game restarts.

 

It's been known for a while that simply reloading a save game without exiting to the desktop doesn't completely reset all of the game memory. Things like triggered traps/mines, for instance, remain triggered/exploded until the session is closed. Suspect this is something similar. Noticed you have 6GB of VRAM, which more than at the time of the game design and might account for the "ghost memory" not needing to be reused right away. But that is pure speculation and I don't have an alternative solution for you.

 

You might drop a PM line to lStewie (of "lStewieAl's Tweaks") or JazzIsParis (of "JIP LN NVSE") to see if they have any idea as to a possible fix.

 

Let us know if you find a solution and I'll add it to the wiki.

 

-Dubious-

[BriNyeTheScienceGuy]

Hi everyone,

 

Thank you giving this your time, I've just done some toying around. The culprit was New Vegas Tick Fix. I see no record of it clashing with another mod in my load order, but uninstalling fixed my problem!