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Good evening everyone. I was about to start a new play through :dance:, got all the mods I wanted installed and used BOSS, NMM, Tes5edit, and created a merge patch. Started up the game and had a CTD :dry: as soon as I "entered" the building behind the Nord with the dragon attacking.It has to be a mod that is installed and I am having some trouble locating what one. :wallbash:. Here is the list of mods I am running, directly out of BOSS.

 

  • Skyrim.esm Active
  • Update.esm Active
  • Dawnguard.esm Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

    [*]HearthFires.esm Active[*]Omegared99-Compilation.esm Active[*]SkyMoMod.esm Active

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

    [*]SPIKE.esm Active[*]ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active[*]MagicDuel.esm Active[*]ApachiiHair.esm Active[*]Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

    [*]Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active[*]Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active[*]Rainbows.esp Active[*]ClimatesOfTamriel-VanillaNights-Lvl-1.esp Active[*]ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active[*]ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Active[*]ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active[*]MintyLightningMod.esp Active[*]MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp Active[*]Weapons and Armor fixes.esp Active

    • Note: For 'WAF+SPO+CCO' users. No conflicts with 'Smithing Perks Overhaul' and 'Complete Crafting Overhaul'.(checked in FNVEdit)

    [*]Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp Active[*]StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active[*]83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes_HighSpawn.esp Active

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

    [*]AV1Dragon_Lords.esp Active[*]Birdsofskyrim.esp Active[*]Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active[*]DragonSoulsToPerks.esp Active[*]ShootingStars.esp Active[*]skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp Active[*]skymo-dawn.esp Active

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

    [*]Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active[*]SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp Active[*]Cloaks.esp Active

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
    • Note: Use only one cloaks*esp

    [*]1nivWICCloaks.esp Active

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

    [*]1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active[*]Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp Active[*]EinherjarArmor.esp Active[*]HBetterBows.esp Active[*]hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

    [*]isilNarsil.esp Active[*]Northborn Fur Hoods.esp Active[*]Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp Active[*]skyforgedShields.esp Active[*]Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp Active[*]Complete Crafting Overhaul - BS version.esp Active

    • Note: Will conflict with mods that modify existing recipes.

    [*]HarvestOverhaul.esp Active[*]HarvestOverhaulDawnguard.esp Active[*]HarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguard.esp Active

    • Incompatible with: HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp

    [*]DeadlyDragons.esp Active

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

    [*]DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp Active[*]DA_Skyship.esp Active[*]HavenBag.esp Active[*]KRZ - Better Archmage Quarters.esp Active[*]My Home Is Your Home.esp Active[*]Reaper's The Dark Tower.esp Active[*]Skyrim School of Witchcraft and Wizardry.esp Active[*]SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp Active

    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

    [*]armored-horses.esp Active[*]Babette.esp Active[*]BetterQuestObjectives.esp Active[*]Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active[*]NoCombatMusic.esp Active[*]SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active[*]dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active

    • Note: Be sure you have downloaded and installed the script Hotfixes.

    [*]dD-SkyrimMonsterMod EBT Patch.esp Active[*]dD-No Screen Blood.esp Active[*]Unique Region Names.esp Active[*]Better Vampires.esp Active[*]ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp Active[*]fcteResurrection.esp Active[*]OpenUnlock.esp Active[*]More Visible Soul Trap Effect.esp Active[*]The Dance of Death.esp Active[*]StavesofSkyrim.esp Active[*]TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Active[*]3DNPC.esp Active[*]Horses for followers.esp Active[*]Blaze Of Eventide.esp Active[*]CompanionValfar.esp Active[*]Better Follower Improvements.esp Active[*]WATER.esp Active[*]Cartographers Map Markers.esp Active[*]Warburg's 3D Paper World Map.esp Active[*]Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Dawnguard.esp Active

Important:

uExterior Cell Buffer=64

uGridsToLoad=7

 

I am running:

 

Windows 7 professional 64 bit

Intel 6 core I7 980 @3.33GHZ

Gskill ripjaw series 24 GB of Ram

Dell 2408WFP 1980x1200

2x SLI Nvidia 660TI FTW 3GB

Asus Sabertooth x58 LGA 1366 Motherboard

7 - 120mm Fans - plenty of cooling

850W Antec Gold standard power source

Hard Drives:

Cosair Force 3 SSD ATA Device - For windows

M4-CT256 M4SSD2 SCSI Disk Drive - for Steam games

ST750LX0 03-1ac154 SCSI Disk Drive - for overflow

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In Tes5Edit I found these error upon loading. I don't know if there is a fix for Babette, this is from dawnguard.

 

[00:33] Background Loader: [babette.esp] Building reference info.

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord FULL

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SNAM

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SNAM

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SNAM

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SNAM

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SNAM

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SNAM

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SNAM

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SNAM

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SNAM

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord VTCK

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord RNAM

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord AIDT

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord PKID

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord PKID

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord PKID

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord PKID

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CNAM

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord DNAM

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord PNAM

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord PNAM

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord HCLF

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord DOFT

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord CRIF

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord NAM9

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord NAMA

[00:33] Background Loader: Error: record NPC_ contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord QNAM

[00:33] Background Loader: Errors were found in: Babette [NPC_:0001D4B7]

[00:33] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID VMAD OBND ACBS RNAM AIDT KSIZ KWDA CNAM DATA NAM5 NAM6 NAM7 NAM8 FULL SNAM SNAM SNAM SNAM SNAM SNAM SNAM SNAM SNAM VTCK RNAM AIDT PKID PKID PKID PKID CNAM DNAM PNAM PNAM HCLF DOFT CRIF NAM9 NAMA QNAM

 

Also:

 

[00:37] Background Loader: [Warburg's 3D Paper World Map.esp] Building reference info.

[00:37] Background Loader: Error: record WRLD contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord MODL 4C444F4D

[00:37] Background Loader: Error: record WRLD contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord MODT 54444F4D

[00:37] Background Loader: Errors were found in: Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C]

[00:37] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID FULL CNAM NAM2 NAM3 NAM4 DNAM MODL MODT MNAM ONAM NAMA DATA NAM0 NAM9 ZNAM TNAM UNAM

 

Any thoughts, Anyone?

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Yep, those plugins (and possibly more on that long list of mods you're using) were made in TESVSnip. It's known to create corrupted plugins containing inaccurate, superflous, or just plain broken data. Running these plugins can corrupt your save games, cause CTDs, etc.

 

You could try to recreate said mods in TES5Edit if you know what you're doing (You never want to copy a whole branch of subrecords from a plugin made in snip to a fixed plugin, because Edit will copy the bad data as well as the good data. A single subrecord shouldn't be a problem). You will need the original script(s) and the CK to remake mods that contain scripts...

 

Alternatively, just ditch the old mods.

 

It's best to open questionable mods in the CK as well because TES5Edit misses a number of potential issues (such as bad info in file headers, etc.). If a mod claims it requires Skyrim 1.8 or higher chances are it's clean. Additionally, some modders have begun the process of updating/fixing a lot of these older mods. In this thread, I gave a fellow Nexus user a rundown on how to remake a really simple mod in TES5Edit; fixing most mods follows the same formula so if you'd like to acquaint yourself with the process, grab this mod, follow the steps in the previous post, and then load your new plugin in the CK once you've saved it in TES5Edit to verify that it is in working order.

 

Keep in mind, some mods are designed in such a way that the CK will throw an error message when loading them even though they're working perfectly fine. When in doubt, ask here or contact the mod's author.

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