The 200 year old weapon rant

[russiausa94]

Yes, that is true. But these weapons aren't well cared for. There's no way a gun can go that long in mint condition in a nuclear wasteland.

Your an idiot. Any gun can be put underground. If people survived, guns will survive. A gun is made out of hard and heavy metal, not flesh. Don't assume that guns are weaker then people.

/rant

[WoogieMonster]

...Of course, this may pose a problem when using the weapon and the condition crossing one of the thresholds. The game engine might not handle swapping it out very well. ;)

 

LHammonds

Considering some of the stuff we've seen done in Oblivion, I am sure someone will figure it out. Think of the Dusk/Dawn Fang sword, it changes while you're holding it right?

 

That problem could be solved by only swapping the version if the weapon is not currently out. Might not really make sense, but unless there is a better workaround...

Even if it has to be done that way, I think it would still be good. Look at it from the concept of having a favorite shirt that you wear every week. You never notice that it's faded until laundry day, when you see it lying next to something else the same color. So maybe you don't notice your favorite gun is worn until you put it back in your inventory and see it next to your other equipment. Just a thought.

 

EDIT: I also think it's pretty funny that there is a thread complaining that the guns don't look crappy enough and another thread complaining that they look too crappy. Just proves that no matter which way you turn, someone will always say you should have went the other way.

[Kabolte]

Yes, that is true. But these weapons aren't well cared for. There's no way a gun can go that long in mint condition in a nuclear wasteland.

Your an idiot. Any gun can be put underground. If people survived, guns will survive. A gun is made out of hard and heavy metal, not flesh. Don't assume that guns are weaker then people.

/rant

 

Wow, calm down man, and read my whole post please

"If it was locked up, sure"

[jaysus]

Your an idiot. Any gun can be put underground. If people survived, guns will survive. A gun is made out of hard and heavy metal, not flesh. Don't assume that guns are weaker then people.

/rant

 

lol where did you learn your matters? plz try to follow the basic guidlines of social behavior in your next posts...

 

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i like LH's idea :) might even be possible without FOSE, and depending on the script commands we now have (of which im atm unsure what there actually is) there might not even be a downside like the hotkey or autorepair we had in oblivion...

 

as to the actual topic i have no opinion... i take what kills... HK stuff if possible... it should just make some sense as you all mentioned yet, depend on the situation under which the weapon lived...

[LHammonds]

Your an idiot. Any gun can be put underground. If people survived, guns will survive. A gun is made out of hard and heavy metal, not flesh. Don't assume that guns are weaker then people.

/rant

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[russiausa94]

Whatever, I don't call the word idiot a personal attack against another member of these forums due to the fact that he posted something that I deemed completely out of the lines of this conversation.

I simply rebutted his comment with my own because it lacked knowledge of the common good handling and condition of a housewold firearm.

If I don't tell someone the right answer, our other members might end up with the wrong answer in their mind.

Forgive me for using the term "Your an idiot", it was playful, plus this is a rant topic ;)

D:

[jaysus]

it doesnt matter how wrong your talk partner is calling him an idiot will never gain you the upperhand in a debate nor make you look intelligent in any way... the opposite is often the case... it might be ok to jokely use it in a conversation with some friends who know you and your "specials" but not in general life...

rather use arguments like you did i the next two sentences and people will take you serious...

[Wreckless1]

Something tells me that in a post-apoc environment like Fallout, Its likely that one's firearm will be obsessively pampered and maintained.

That weapon's proper function truly becomes a matter of life and death, just as it does in war. Establishing this sort of intense attention to your firearms is exactly why the US Army and Marine basic training regimens both center around being immersed with your rifle - to the point that everyone is ordered to name their weapon, too. My M16A2 was named Sarah, and it was actually kinda hard to turn it back in at the end of training.

But we were to literally care for it as if it were our infant child. One of the bar-none fastest ways to get shark-attack smoked by the DI's was to treat your weapon with anything less than obsessive maintenance or leave it anywhere beyond your arm's reach on an FTX.

I'm not exaggerating much when I say that I've happily eaten $25 steaks off of plates that were dirtier than the inside of our rifles.

 

 

So I really don't see it as much of a stretch to see that same bond and attention to weapons all over the wasteland.

Now, when it comes to minty-pristine LNIB weapons with 100% finish and zero signs of wear, that would probably still be pretty rare. But well-oiled 95-98% guns with some holster/handling wear should be fairly common, really.

 

My Great Grandfather's Colt-made M1911 that he carried in WW1, and my Grandfather also went on to carry in WW2 is still in the family and easily in 92-93% condition - I'd unflinchingly trust it with my life. But my Father has made it clear that it won't be mine until I'm settling his will, lol.

[LHammonds]

Whatever, I don't call the word idiot a personal attack against another member of these forums

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[bben46]

Another possibility is these weapons have actually been manufactured in the last 200 years. If you don't believe it can be done, prior to the huge proliferation of modern weapons in Afghanistan, home based gunsmiths made rifles for hundreds of years. Of course they upgraded as the weapons they could copy improved. As late as the 1990s there was a home industry along the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan making copies of captured Russian small arms such as Kalashnikov rifles. Some of these were very good copies and very reliable.

 

There was a 60 minutes segment about the weapons making city years ago where they showed samples of their workmanship from flintlocks made in the early 1800s, lever action copies of Winchester rifles, bolt action WWI & WWII rifles and up to AK47s that were as good as the originals. They also made bullets by the thousands for all of these weapons.

 

I think most of the actual gun makers have been put out of business by the easily available influx of modern factory made weapons, but you can still buy about anything short of a nuke in the open market there.