Game crashes when I ask NPCs for Training

[Deleted78356788User]

Hello.

I started new game recently after finishing long mod selection and I'm now in Balmora. Whichever NPC I ask for training the game crashes and exits to Windows. Do you know guys what can make this problem? You can check my mods below:

 

#Mod_Name
"Unmanaged: XE Sky Variations"
"DLC: Tribunal"
"DLC: Bloodmoon"
"Script Fixes"
"Expansion Delay"
"Dark Brotherhood Attacks Fixed"
"Mesh Fix"
"UV Fix for Velothi Trap Doors"
"Poorly Placed Object Fix"
"Patch for Purists"
"Unofficial Morrowind Official Plugins Patched"
"UMOPP Merged and Compatibility Versions"
"FMI - Misc"
"FMI - Current Councilors"
"FMI - Legion Dialogue"
"FMI - Ingredient Locations"
"FMI - Sane Ordinators"
"FMI - Disease Descriptions"
"FMI - Ancient Altar"
"FMI - Belladonna - Unique and Deadly"
"FMI - HulStop"
"FMI - Athyn and Shardie"
"FMI - Caius Big Package"
"FMI - Service Refusal and Contraband"
"FMI - Unique Lore Friendly Cave Rats"
"FMI - NotAllDunmer"
"FMI - Nice to Meet You"
"LDM - Vampire Talk"
"LDM - Abolitionists"
"LDM - Immersive Crassius Curio Greetings"
"The Dream is the Door"
"King's Oath Fix"
"Corsair's MW Inconsistencies"
"The Puzzle Canal"
"Illegal Summoning"
"Intervention Improved"
"Quarantined Vvardenfell"
"Corprus Natives"
"Outlander Yourself"
"Redoran Freeloaders"
"Twilight Heart Drops"
"Guar Meat"
"Redaynia Restored"
"Accurate Madstone"
"TriangleTooth's Missing Characters"
"Eclipse of the Crescent Blade"
"Dwemer Soul Gems"
"Blight Is Coming"
"Wings of Will"
"Controlled Consumption"
"Divayth Fyr Puzzle Fixed"
"Vampire Stat Gains Fix"
"Salaas Tweaks and Bug Fixes"
"Telvanni Bug Musk Perfume"
"Ordiniran Fix"
"Vassir Didanat Mine Locked"
"Sethan Tomb floor fix"
"Provinces of Tamriel Book Fix"
"Floating Rock and Andus Plant Fix"
"Suran Temple Door Fix"
"Foeburner Fix"
"Master Index Journalfix"
"Chaos Bound Armor fix"
"Ring of Equity Fix"
"Grave Goods"
"Clean Journal - Trebonius"
"Telvanni Quest Custom Spells Fix"
"Sign for Suran"
"Docks of Suran"
"Realistic Ashpits"
"Putting Power in Willpower"
"Dagoth Ur Fix"
"Hortator Nerevarine Fix"
"Note from the Archcanon Fix"
"Blight Storms Restored"
"Corprus Fix"
"Balmora Rumour Fix - little secret delay"
"Vodunius Nuccius House Lodgings"
"The Frostmoth Smugglers - Properly Rewarded"
"Sadrith Mora Closed City"
"Hospitality Papers Expanded"
"Sadrith Mora Closed City Patch"
"No Daedric Drops"
"Better Stackable Imperial Legion Uniforms"
"Legion Uniforms Membership Fix"
"Loading Doors Lock Tune"
"Pursuit Enhanced"
"Dubdilla Location Fix"
"Tarhiel Journal Fix"
"Shrines 0 Gold Fix"
"Improved Shrine Journal entries"
"Better Propylon Teleport Script"
"Voiced Vivec and Yakety Yagrum"
"Rarer Scrap Metal"
"The Publicans"
"Camonna Tong's Violence"
"Idle Talk"
"Spell Scroll Text Overhaul"
"Morrowind Region Fix"
"Bloodmoon Region Fix"
"Waterfalls Tweaks"
"Silt Strider Animation Restored"
"Gondolier Destinations"
"Ald Velothi Boat Service"
"NPC Healers"
"Morrowind Optimization Patch"
"Correct Meshes"
"CorrectUV Diverse Ore Veins"
"Correct UV Rocks"
"Correct UV Trees"
"Fixed Adamantium Armor Meshes"
"Bonemold Chuzei Helm Fix"
"Shield Netch Leather Fix"
"Correct Templar Cuirass"
"R-Zero's Random Replacers - Iron Towershield"
"Better Picks'n'Probes"
"Correct Stronghold Meshes"
"Correct Telvanni Interior Doors"
"Telvanni Door Handle"
"Stone Bridge - Modresource"
"Hidden Imperial Door Fix"
"Well Covers"
"Rope Fence Fix"
"Boat Fixes"
"Correct Chests"
"Glowing Flames"
"Texture Fix"
"Texture Fix - Extended"
"Mournhold Great Bazaar Bridge Texture Fix"
"Bloodmoon Texture Fix"
"Texture Fix - Bloodmoon"
"MGE XE - Distant Land Generation Texture Error Fix"
"Morrowind Enhanced Textures 4K"
"MET Update"
"Intelligent Textures"
"Vurt's Lava and Smoke"
"Apel's Fire Retexture"
"Mist Retexture"
"Morrowind VanillaPlus textures"
"Land Textures (różne)"
"MFR - HD Grass"
"EKM Vanilla-Based Ash Grasses"
"Bitter Coast Redux II - Trees and Flora"
"Trees Textures (różne)"
"Darknut's Creature Textures"
"Darknut's Creature Textures addendum"
"Darknut's Creature Textures TB"
"Darknut's Creature Textures BM"
"Dunmer Sotha Sil"
"Connary's Creature Textures"
"Full Dwemer Retexture - Only armor and robots and weapons HQ"
"Volendrung retexture"
"Armors Retexture - Outlander Styles"
"R-Zero's Random Retextures - Dwemer Coin"
"Daedric Ruins Retexture"
"Full Dwemer Retexture - Only Architecture HQ"
"Ashlanders textures"
"Aesthesia - Stronghold textures 2K"
"Stronghold Retexture"
"Articus Mournhold 2K Retexture"
"Articus Old Mournhold and Sewers Retexture 2K"
"Articus Clockwork City of Sotha Sil 2K Retexture"
"Vivec and Velothi - Arkitektora Vol.2 HQ"
"Raven Rock HD"
"One True Faith - Saints and Frescoes Retexture"
"Dunmer Lanterns Replacer - Ashlander Retexture"
"Lysol's Guar Skin Banners"
"Ket's Paper Lanterns Retexture"
"Apel's Various Things - Sacks"
"Better Rugs 512"
"HD Clutter"
"Long Live The Glassware - Retexture"
"Ket's Potions and Beverages Retexture"
"Arukinns Better Books and Scrolls"
"Soulgems retexture"
"Journal and scroll BG replacement"
"Distant Lights"
"Glow in the Dahrk"
"Common doors fixes"
"Better Meshes plus Optimization"
"MOAR Mesh Replacers"
"Dwemer Mesh Improvement"
"Overlooked Meshes Replacer"
"RR - Better Meshes"
"Properly Smoothed Meshes"
"Project ATLAS"
"Intelligent Textures ATLAS"
"Morrowind Visual Pack"
"Vivec and Velothi - Arkitektora Vol.2 HQ ATLAS"
"Imperial Houses and Forts Retexture - Ordo Arkitektora HQ ATLAS"
"Shacks Docks and Ships - Arkitektora of Vvardenfell"
"Skies .IV (wybrane)"
"Skies .IV"
"Dangerous Lava and Oil by Articus"
"Lava and Oil Visual Damage (Vanilla)"
"RR - Better Crystals"
"Water Pools HD"
"WIP Smooth Correct UV Rocks"
"WIP Detailed Correct UV Rocks"
"WIP Improved Cavern Clutter"
"Bloated Caves"
"Epic Plants - Caves"
"Better Flora Fixed"
"Epic Plants - Bitter Coast"
"Epic Plants - Ascadian Isles"
"Epic Plants - Grazelands"
"Hackle-lo Fixed"
"Epic Plants - Salt Rice"
"Epic Plants - Ashland"
"Pherim's Fire Fern - Plant and Ingredient"
"Plant Life"
"Ingredients Mesh Replacer"
"Crabmeat ingredient replacer"
"Soulgem Ingredient Retexture SIR"
"Improved Kwama Eggs and Egg Sacs"
"Bloodmoon Hide Replacer BHR"
"Daedric Intervention - Ingredients"
"Epic Trees - Emperor Parasol"
"Vanilla-friendly West Gash Tree Replacer"
"MFR - Trees"
"Connary's Misc Textures"
"Azura Replacer"
"Vivec God Replacement Creature Edition"
"Better Almalexia"
"Divine Dagoths"
"Dagoth Ur (vanilla shaders)"
"Daedric Intervention - Creatures"
"Spriggan smoothed"
"Alit replacer - Aendemika of Vvardenfell"
"Guars replacer - Aendemika of Vvardenfell"
"Kagouti replacer - Aendemika of Vvardenfell"
"HiRez Creatures - Netch"
"Cliffracer Replacer"
"Nix-Hound Replacer"
"Scamp Replacer"
"Clannfear Replacer"
"Unique Winged Twilights"
"BB Dwarven Spectre"
"Better Bodies ZW"
"Lore-Friendly Better Bodies Underwear"
"Westly's Pluginless Head and Hair Replacer Complete"
"Westly's Head and Hair Replacer - Hair Fix"
"Westly's Vampire Faces - No Glowmaps for Eyes"
"RB Orcish Females"
"New Beast Bodies - Clean Version"
"Khajiit Head Pack - Whiskers Version"
"Pluginless Khajiit Head Pack - Talk-Blink Fix"
"Pluginless Khajiit Head Pack - Vampires"
"Improved Better Skulls"
"RR - Better Skulls and Bones"
"Skeletons Atlased"
"Diverse Blood"
"Better Clothes Complete"
"Articus Mournhold Clothes"
"Articus Mournhold Clothes - MC Retexture"
"Weapon Sheathing"
"Improved Weapon Meshes & Textures WIP"
"Darknut's Little Weapons Mod Complete - Meshes"
"Iron Mesh Improvements"
"Correct Iron Warhammer"
"Iron Mesh Improvements - Uniques"
"Improved Weapon Meshes - Steel"
"IWMS Weapon Sheathing Patch"
"Improved Weapon Meshes - Ebony"
"IWME Weapon Sheathing Patch"
"Spear-Staff Fix"
"Silver Mesh Improvements"
"Smooth Glass Weapons"
"SGW Weapon Sheathing Patch"
"Improved Thrown Weapon Projectiles"
"Nordic Mesh Improvements"
"Smooth Orcish Weapons"
"Oriental Mesh Improvements"
"Daedric Intervention - Weapons"
"Crossbows"
"Projectile Overhaul - Modular"
"Weapons Overhaul"
"Improved Armor parts"
"Dwemer Armoury textured and updated"
"Snow Prince Armor Redux"
"Hires armors - native styles patched"
"Correct Chitin Pauldron"
"Dust adept helm retexture"
"Glass Shield"
"Colovian helm and heavy leather boots retexture"
"Lougian's colovian helm fix"
"Improved Nordic Iron Helm Alternate"
"Eleidon's Ward retexture"
"Better Morrowind Armor"
"Better Silver Armor"
"Daedric Intervention - Armors"
"Morrowind Better Armor compability patch"
"FMGS - Unique Items Compilation"
"Unique Dagoth Dagger"
"Better Robes"
"Armor Overhaul"
"Unique Jewelry Redone"
"Artifact Mesh Improvements"
"Septim Gold and Dwemer Dumacs"
"Updated Pluginless NoGlow"
"Gnisis Arch Retextured"
"Papill6n various graphics things"
"RR - Better Redoran Architecture"
"Redoran - Arkitektora Vol.2"
"Telvanni Exterior UV Fix"
"Telvanni Mesh Improvement"
"Telvanni Fireplace Replacer"
"ex_t_pole_hooked smoothed"
"Telvanni - Arkitektora of Vvardenfell HQ"
"Tyddy's Telvanni Fixes"
"R-Zero's Random Replacers - Chimney Smoke"
"Improved Tribunal shrine meshes"
"Enhanced Stone Walls"
"Wooden Post"
"Cart Cloth Retexture CCR"
"Skiff Boat Texture Replacer"
"Improved Hammock Meshes"
"Dunmeri Urns - Aestetika of Vvardenfell"
"Better Kegstands"
"Silverware Repolished"
"Melchior's Magnificent Manuscripts"
"Morrowind Animation Replacer"
"Dirnae's Beast Animations"
"One Handed Idle Animation Replacer"
"Slower Crossbow Reload"
"Unique Shadow Pack"
"MAO"
"MAO Update"
"Thunderstruck MAO"
"Memory Monitor"
"Title Screen Reworked (Widescreen)"
"HD Concept-art splash screen and main menu"
"Skip Tutorial"
"Sophisticated Save System Nexus"
"Sophisticated Save System GitHub"
"Darknut's 1st Person Enhanced"
"Crosshair Dot Tiny"
"HUD Hider"
"GMSTs - Vanity Camera"
"Better Dialogue Font"
"Better Daedric Font"
"UI Expansion"
"Descriptive Descriptions"
"Better Skill Descriptions"
"abot's Tooltip"
"Tamrielic Lore Tooltips"
"More Quick-Keys"
"Smart Helmet"
"Smart Ammo"
"Better Stackable Ash Statues"
"Descriptive Shrines"
"Container Ownership"
"Book Worm"
"Keyring"
"Switchable Scriptures"
"Perfect Placement"
"Morrowind Balance Overhaul"
"TimeScale Change - Normal Morrowind"
"No Resting"
"True Skyrimized Torches"
"Regional Bounty"
"Better Mining"
"Better Mining Patch"
"Better Mining (Bloodmoon)"
"Better Mining (Bloodmoon) Patch"
"Thief Experience Overhaul"
"Security Enhanced"
"Skill-based Trap Detection"
"Rational Wildlife"
"Fwuffy's Cliff Racer Solutions"
"Wolverine Hall Directions"
"Vivec Voice Addon Tribunal Version"
"Balmora Blades Safehouse - dialogue fixed"
"Distant Mournhold"
"Mountains of Mournhold"
"Price Balance"
"Economy Fixes"
"Negative Lights Remover"

Edited April 16, 2020 by Guest

[Oblivionaddicted]

Do you know when the problem appeared?

 

What do you use to set the load order?

 

At worst, disable a bunch of mods, check if the problem persists etc

Edited April 17, 2020 by Oblivionaddicted

[Deleted78356788User]

Problem appeared just after I finished completing mods and started new game. In fort Moonmoth actually, when I asked Larrius Varro for training. It happens with all NPCs which are able to train me, those who can't due to gameplay limitations - like members of Thieves Guild when your character isn't a guild member, don't make crashes. That's why it didn't happend in Seyda Neen and Pelagiad I visited before.

I use mlox just to see what proposition it gives but entire load order is my own choice based on my experiences from last few months of mod testing after I've returned to Morrowind after 16 years.

Well, using common sense - if the crashes come from training option then first we need to consider which mods are related to that part of game. And then check if disabling that mod (or mods) will make difference. Could you guys - looking on my mod list - tell which ones affect training option?

Edited April 17, 2020 by Guest

[Oblivionaddicted]

Your problem can also come from another mod for whatever reason, so if you don't find the faulty mod by disabling the training-related mods you can always use my solution.

 

I don't have any idea about the potential culprit by the way.

Edited April 17, 2020 by Oblivionaddicted