Please help with CTDs

Cait833 · December 18, 2012

I've gone over and over my mod list, and I cannot find anything that would cause CTDs, alone or due to conflict, and yet it still happens. I have BOSSed my load order (no unrecognised and just the SkyRe warning), my bashed patch, my mods cleaned.

(0) Skyrim.esm

(1) Update.esm

(2) Dawnguard.esm

(3) HearthFires.esm

(4) AMOvanilla.esm

(5) ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

(6) LB_MuchAdoSnowElves.esm

(7) SkyMoMod.esm

(8) SPIKE.esm

(9) Vigilant of Stendarr Quests Master.esm

(10) WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm

(11) Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

(12) moonpath.esm

(13) WinterholdDestruction.esm

(14) NPCEssential - Vendors.esp

(15) NPCEssential - Trainers.esp

(16) NPCEssential - Priests.esp

(17) NPCEssential - Miners.esp

(18) NPCEssential - Followers.esp

(19) NPCEssential - Farmers.esp

(20) NPCEssential - Citizens.esp

(21) NPCEssential - Carriage Drivers.esp

(22) NPCEssential - Lumberjacks.esp

(23) NPCEssential - Stable Masters.esp

(24) NPCEssential - Horses.esp

(25) NPCEssential - Caravan Traders.esp

(26) Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

(27) HighResTexturePackFix.esp

(28) VLCollisionFix.esp

(29) Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

(30) Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

(31) Clanking Armor.esp

(32) DFG's Blade & Dagger Sheathe Sounds.esp

(33) Improved Combat Sounds v2.1.esp

(34) realrainCoT.esp

(35) ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

(36) ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp

(37) ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp

(38) MintyLightningMod.esp

(39) MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

(40) AdditionalMusicBundleI.esp

(41) AMOvanilla - Combat.esp

(42) AMOvanilla - Special.esp

(43) StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

(44) 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp

(45) AV1Dragon_Lords.esp

(46) BirdsHFclean.esp

(47) Birdsofskyrim.esp

(48) BooksBooksBooks.esp

(49) Cat_mount.esp

(50) Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

(51) Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp

(52) Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle_DG.esp

(53) Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp

(54) CollectibleXarxes.esp

(55) Commute.esp

(56) DungeonQuestAwareness.esp

(57) GSTH.esp

(58) I5K Skull Hunt.esp

(59) Immersive Battles.esp

(60) Immersive Brigands.esp

(61) Immersive Dawnguard.esp

(62) Immersive Patrols.esp

(63) Immersive Travelers.esp

(64) Immersive Werewolves.esp

(65) Ish's Souls to Perks.esp

(66) kuerteeProfessions.esp

(67) Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp

(68) lovecraftbooks.esp

(69) Malkavs Collection.esp

(70) Prides of Skyrim.esp

(71) SignTown_by_YURIL.esp

(72) skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp

(73) skymo-dawn.esp

(74) Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

(75) SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp

(76) Tamriel Compendium - Skill Books.esp

(77) Tamriel Compendium.esp

(78) Tamriel Compendium Skill Book Version.esp

(79) Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp

(80) Convenient Horses.esp

(81) Destructible_bottles.esp

(82) Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

(83) Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

(84) Footprints.esp

(85) war zone fix.esp

(86) BadGremlinsJarHunt.esp

(87) Bard'sLeap.esp

(88) BR_Orcish_Armor_1_1.esp

(89) Cloaks.esp

(90) 1nivWICCloaks.esp

(91) 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

(92) Elemental Staves.esp

(93) Fifty_Shades_OFGM_LA.esp

(94) hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

(95) LeatherBackpackBrown.esp

(96) LeatherBackpackBlack.esp

(97) LeatherBackpack.esp

(98) MapTomes.esp

(99) Minotaur_Skin.esp

(100) RagnvaldBook.esp

(101) Tales of Tamriel - Merchants.esp

(102) TheDovahDictionary.esp

(103) thedovahphrasebook.esp

(104) Dr_Bandolier.esp

(105) Dr_BandolierDG.esp

(106) IA6npc01.esp

(107) BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp

(108) BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp

(109) BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight_Dawnguard.esp

(110) DeadlyDragons.esp

(111) Quest_AndTheRealmsOfDaedra.esp

(112) BecomeABard.esp

(113) BGsno-globes.esp

(114) Boozeus.esp

(115) buildablehouse.esp

(116) Convenient Horse Herding.esp

(117) ESFCompanions.esp

(118) Gildergreen Regrown.esp

(119) harvestableJarrinRoot.esp

(120) LB_MuchAdoSnowElves_Quest.esp

(121) LittleShrines.esp

(122) Mages College Quests.esp

(123) markarth_plus.esp

(124) missingapprentices.esp

(125) moonpath_questdata.esp

(126) Quest_NoMercy.esp

(127) puffs soul gems.esp

(128) Riften Small.esp

(129) Run For Your Lives.esp

(130) When Vampires Attack.esp

(131) Quest_SeaOfGhosts.esp

(132) SBT Smal3.esp

(133) SBT Smal1.esp

(134) SBT Smal2.esp

(135) Skymap.esp

(136) SkyrimChimneysRW.esp

(137) SovngardeNordHeroes.esp

(138) The Drunkard Drinks v1.00.esp

(139) The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

(140) Quest_TheBiggerTheyAre.esp

(141) Vigilant of Stendarr Quests.esp

(142) Dawnguard - Vigilant of Stendarr Quests Patch.esp

(143) Better Warzones Soldier Uniforms With Cloaks.esp

(144) whiterunexenhanced.esp

(145) Work a Steady Job as a Blacksmith.esp

(146) SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp

(147) UniqueWeapons.esp

(148) Arvak Dark Power Voice power version.esp

(149) Auriels_Arrows.esp

(150) biggerbears.esp

(151) BlockSparkles.esp

(152) dynamic fires.esp

(153) faster vanilla horses.esp

(154) HorsesGoneWild.esp

(155) Immersive Weapons.esp

(156) MECR_MythicDawnCommentaries_are_Skill_Books.esp

(157) dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp

(158) OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp

(159) SkyRealism - Grass.esp

(160) SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

(161) Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp

(162) ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp

(163) LoS and RE patch.esp

(164) TAVERiften.esp

(165) TAVESolitude.esp

(166) TAVEWindhelm.esp

(167) L0S and TaVE patch.esp

(168) WhiterunInEnhanced.esp

(169) tavefalkreath.esp

(170) Unique Region Names.esp

(171) Open Cities Skyrim.esp

(172) kuerteeBattleFatigueAndInjuries.esp

(173) kuerteeEatAndSleep.esp

(174) SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp

(175) SkyRealism - Mass and Materials.esp

(176) SkyRealism - Capacity and Carry Weight.esp

(177) SkyRealism - Encumbrance.esp

(178) SkyRealism - Portable Crafting Kits.esp

(179) Better Vampires.esp

(180) Predator Vision.esp

(181) ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp

(182) BloodmoonRising.esp

(183) Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

(184) BFSEffects.esp

(185) Clear Skies Fix - CoT version.esp

(186) DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

(187) Milk.esp

(188) Horsemen.esp

(189) Horsemen Combat Enhancement.esp

(190) Crimson Tide - Blood.esp

(191) SkyRe_Main.esp

(192) SkyRe_Combat.esp

(193) SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp

(194) SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

(195) SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

(196) SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

(197) Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp

(198) StavesofSkyrim.esp

(199) dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

(200) Beards.esp

(201) Hair-Specular Fix.esp

(202) 3DNPC.esp

(203) EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp

(204) HothFollower.esp

(205) UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

(206) UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp

(207) UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp

(208) SovngardeNordHeroesUlfgarChange.esp

(209) Bald_Jiub.esp

(210) SkyRe_Races.esp

(211) getSnowy.esp

(212) WATER.esp

(213) GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp

(214) Warburg's 3D Paper World Map.esp

(215) Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Dawnguard.esp

(216) SKSE Hotkeys.esp

(217) WetandCold.esp

(218) Bashed Patch, 0.esp

(219) ReProccer.esp

Please, if anyone could help I would be very grateful. Also if you would like to see my papyrus log, could you please specify where it is as I cannot find it.

Edited December 18, 2012 by Cait833

Cait833 · December 18, 2012

I found out that I had to enable the papyrus log, so I'm going to start the game again and what it comes up with.

Cait833 · December 18, 2012

Well, it CTDed again, and guess what? No log - the folder is there, but no BLOODY LOG!!! ... unless it's somewhere else?

If it is overheating, then that might be the answer, but then it would probably restart, not just CTD, wouldn't it?

I can run Far Cry 3 fine on full settings with HDAO and without any micro-stutters:

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

Intel Core i7-2600 3.4GHz

16GB RAM

Sapphire AMD Radeon HD 7970 Dual-X

Would using the ATTK SKSE Power Loader prevent papyrus from making a log?

Please, I don't want to restart the game every 5 minutes!

Edited December 18, 2012 by Cait833

MShoap13 · December 18, 2012

Post your Skyrim.ini (located at \My Documents\My Games\Skyrim\) if you don't mind.

/Edit: I also see that you're running Moonpath To Elswyr. This mod is notorious for causing CTDs all over Skyrim. It's generally suggested to only run it while you're actually playing it's questline and then once you've completed it, remove it.

/Edit Edit: Warzones, Skyrim Monster Mod, and Immersive Armors are all hotspots for problems with a modded game. SkyRe is a massive overhaul and has conflicts with tons of mods that may or may not be fixable through SkyProc style patches or merging leveled lists in a Bashed Patch. Acquisitive Soul Gems and Skyrim Coin Replacer are both corrupt plugins made in TESVSnip. Running corrupt plugins can cause problems ranging from CTDs to corrupting saves.

/Edit Edit Edit: With those system specs, why are you running ATTK?! My personal experience with ATTK is that it increases general stutter, drastically increases load stutter, and makes corrupted saves. I even tried bumping it all the way down to 1,0,0,0,0 after the default settings were a bust. :whistling: I'm on Win7 64-bit with an AMD 980 BE, 4GB of RAM and a 1GB GTX 560 TI. I see better results without the unfortunate side effect of corrupted saves from just running Gamebooster.

Edited December 18, 2012 by MShoap13

Cait833 · December 19, 2012

Here's my Skyrim.ini:

[General]

sLanguage=ENGLISH

uExterior Cell Buffer=36

[Display]

fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0

fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0

fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048

bAllowScreenshot=1

bEnableFileSelection=1

[Audio]

fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0

fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0

fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0

fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0

[Grass]

bAllowCreateGrass=1

bAllowLoadGrass=0

[GeneralWarnings]

SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

[Archive]

sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, HighResTexturePack01.bsa, HighResTexturePack02.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa

sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

[Combat]

fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7

f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7

f1PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.7

f3PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.7

[Actor]

fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

[Papyrus]

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0

bEnableLogging=1

bEnableTrace=1

bLoadDebugInformation=1

[Water]

bReflectLODObjects=1

bReflectLODLand=1

bReflectSky=1

bReflectLODTrees=1

I have also reverted back to the the normal SKSE. I was testing it out for someone, but at the same time was also aware that it would have little to no impact - at least I don't have to watch the Bethesda logo at each startup now. I have also removed acquisitive soul gems and skyrim coin replacer. I'll try disabling moonpath if I run into any more CTDs.

Cait833 · December 19, 2012

Looks like only the normal SKSE was able to create a papyrus log, then.

[defaultsetstagealiasscript <alias Hadvar on quest MQ102A (0002BF9C)>] OnHit in waitingForPlayer

[12/19/2012 - 12:04:02PM] [defaultsetstagealiasscript <alias Hadvar on quest MQ102A (0002BF9C)>] OnHit in waitingForPlayer

[12/19/2012 - 12:04:02PM] [defaultsetstagealiasscript <alias FactionFriend on quest MQ102 (0004E50D)>] OnHit in waitingForPlayer

[12/19/2012 - 12:04:03PM] DLORDS Return Status: Pending

[12/19/2012 - 12:04:21PM] DLORDS Return Status: Pending

[12/19/2012 - 12:05:01PM] DLORDS Return Status: Pending

[12/19/2012 - 12:05:03PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (FF001807) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:05:08PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (FF0008E6) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:05:16PM] DLORDS Return Status: Pending

[12/19/2012 - 12:05:18PM] [MQ102ChatterTrigger < (000AC137)>] triggered by [Actor < (0002BFA2)>]

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:15PM] DLORDS Return Status: Pending

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:16PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 2 on (3F0038CF) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:18PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (3F0038D0) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:18PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (3F0038D1) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 2 on (FF001728) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (000B6CE1) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (FF00184F) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (FF00184A) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (A00066CD) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (A00066CC) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (A00066CB) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (A00066CA) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (2F00ECDC) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (000EC18A) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (000EC18B) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 2 on (000198BA) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 2 on (000D9547) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (A000B046) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (2F015F83) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (2F018B11) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:26PM] Error: Property BloodFX on script zbloodnpcbleed attached to Active effect 1 on (FF0016DA) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0102DF26) is not the right type

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:30PM] DLORDS Return Status: Pending

[12/19/2012 - 12:06:45PM] DLORDS Return Status: Pending

BloodFX I'm guessing is from crimson tide and I think DLORDS might be dovahkriid. Not sure what to make of it though.

Edited December 19, 2012 by Cait833

Cait833 · December 19, 2012

New log after disabling moonpath, skyrim monster mod and warzones: